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Jackson123

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Straightshot said:
You must read the Bible prophets for the correct rendering

They all identify Israel's virulent enemies round about in the Middle East during the coming tribulation period at the end of this present age

These surrounding populations are the Muslims of the region today

Once you get this, then rethink your view
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Yes muslim will attack Israel as describe in Ezekiel, but the Antichrist itself, describe by apostle John as eat least has 2 characteristic as.

Have been there in time of apostle John

and went out from us/ christian.

Muslim not match these 2 characteristic.

If you go to original language, Antee in Greek mean

Strong's Concordance
antichristos: antichrist, (one who opposes Christ)​
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Original Word: ἀντίχριστος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: antichristos
Phonetic Spelling: (an-tee'-khris-tos)
Short Definition: antichrist
Definition: antichrist, either one who puts himself in the place of, or the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah.


Muslim doesn't believe Jesus is God or not pretend to believe that Jesus is God.

Catholic pretend to teach that Jesus is God and some pope said they are God on earth/christ on earth.


PUT HIMSELF IN THE PLACE OF CHRIST.
 
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These you mention are both off course

If you really want to understand the real deal you will have to read the Bible prophets

Here are two examples [Psalms 83; Ezekiel 36]

Otherwise you will not know
 
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Straightshot said:
These you mention are both off course

If you really want to understand the real deal you will have to read the Bible prophets

Here are two examples [Psalms 83; Ezekiel 36]

Otherwise you will not know
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Brother, the bible is not oppose each other. We see the easy one first and that is what apostle John said.

with the 2 characteristic from apostle John, seem to me not match to Muslim.

Muslim not exist in time of John, and apostle John said they have been there in his(apostle john) time

went out from us/ start from christian,Muslim not start from christian.
 
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ChristIsGod

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I believe the Arabs, even Muslims are descendants of Ishmael. Many testimonies of them having dreams and converting to Christ.

There was never a curse on them and only that they would be "wild" but a large nation themselves. Abraham and Hagar pleaded for their son and God appeared to and answered them both. Also that they would live amongst their brother, Isaac's descendants as well.

The truly violent ones may or may not be. Just as there are Christian and Jews that are violent and probably are not Christian nor Jew.
 
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The Bible prophets tell differently

Have you read them?

If you do you can discover the truth [2 Peter 1:16-21]

.... your choice
 
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Straightshot said:
The Bible prophets tell differently

Have you read them?

If you do you can discover the truth [2 Peter 1:16-21]

.... your choice
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To whom is this reply toward?
 
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The post just above and others on this thread that use backdoor rational for understanding rather than learning the views of the Bible prophets
 
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Jackson123 said:
Brother, the bible is not oppose each other. We see the easy one first and that is what apostle John said.

with the 2 characteristic from apostle John, seem to me not match to Muslim.

Muslim not exist in time of John, and apostle John said they have been there in his(apostle john) time

went out from us/ start from christian,Muslim not start from christian.
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I don't disagree with you much in what you've posted on this thread - but Rome was in power when John was on Patmos and this is what he said of the beast ...

Rev_17:8 The beast that thou sawest, was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


Rev_17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.


Rev_17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
 
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Straightshot said:
The post just above and others on this thread that use backdoor rational for understanding rather than learning the views of the Bible prophets
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The post above yours is mine, Brother. Where have I got it wrong? I'd like to understand, as I've studied the prophets.
 
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I've heard that it is called the United Religion, Brother DC.

Clinton and Blair both have "Faith Intitiatives" and Rick Warren's been involved especially as well ... just for one from the U.S..
 
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"The post above yours is mine, Brother. Where have I got it wrong? I'd like to understand, as I've studied the prophets."


The study is intense ..... but the truth is there

I would be willing to help you if you want, but you will have to give me your reference points for the discussion

Otherwise I would have post a book load for you on this forum ..... time is of the essence for me
 
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"One word.....Ecumenicalism!"


This is the word ..... and the ambition is a total folly for most ..... and for some an insidious way to spread falsehood
 
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Jackson123

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Straightshot said:
The Bible prophets tell differently

Have you read them?

If you do you can discover the truth [2 Peter 1:16-21]

.... your choice
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Brother are you accused apostle John follow cunningly devised fables?

I am not, I believe muslim not exist yet in apostle John time.

It simple brother,

John said Antichrist have been there in his life time.

A: You said Antichrist is Muslim.

Conclusion: If A right then Muslim have been there when John life.

The fact is Muslim start almost 600 years after John, mean Muslim not antichrist, or apostle John lie.

16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
 
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Another anti-Catholic thread. When will this end?
 
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Jackson123

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ChristIsGod said:
I don't disagree with you much in what you've posted on this thread - but Rome was in power when John was on Patmos and this is what he said of the beast ...

Rev_17:8 The beast that thou sawest, was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


Rev_17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.


Rev_17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
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I don't really understand these code language. But about what apostle John said is simple and easy to understand.

Antichrist is there in his time, went out from us, the word us I understand as christian/ went out from christian/ and muslim not went out from christian.
 
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All of our views are so varied that what I had ready to post I'll just save for some other year. I'll just post one link but say that Tony Blair became a Catholic not that many yrs back and started his 'Tony Blair [inter-]Faith Foundation' and well - I just know that this muslim thing is a diversion from what is truly happening in current events that is leading to the united religion. It's right under our noses and here where we live and has been really cooking since mainly 2005 and to stay on topic with the OP - http://www.globalmbwatch.com/2008/0...undation-event-bill-clinton-featured-speaker/
 
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PEOPLE worship many gods. But the Holy Scriptures teach that there is only one true God. He is unique, supreme, and eternal. He created everything in heaven and on earth, and he gave us life. Therefore, he alone is worthy of our worship.
 
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