Gifts - Tongues and the Interpretation of Tongues

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You make an idiotic assumption about my filling with the Holy Spirit. I will be generous and say that you simply misunderstand what it is to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

tongues have nothing to do with filling of the Holy Spirit since they ceased according to 1 Cor 13:8. I do not want to reargue the issue because you will not receive the scriptures because you have your feelings to replace the scriptures.

The Holy Spirit is the gift of God given the moment we receive Christ as our Savior.

The tongues in the bible are human languages not as some claim to be unknowable languages.

Israel saw unknown languages as a sign of judgment from God. They were taken captive and carried into lands where they did not speak the language. That's bible and that's history.

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Roger
The Holy Spirit works upon and within a believer and scripture proves this out.

Your greatest deception was assuming EMber and others here beleive tongues is the initial evidence of the filling of the Holy Spirit.

Ember never stated what some Pentecostal believers do, that tongues, is the initial evidence of the filling of the Holy Spirit.
I totally disagree with that statement because it is not found in the Bible anywhere. It says the power to witness is an evidence of the Spirit upon and not within you.

Cessastion thugs like you assume all the time. I am praying your assumptions about others and what you think the Bible says does not result in Jesus saying, Depart from me. I never approved of you.
 

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I we are all born again Christians and are all like one another, then if God wanted us to speak in gibberish He would have made it a commandment for ALL His believers, not just some, to pray in tongues.
 

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So #3 in my "Gifts" series is "Tongues", I believe this one is the most controversial of the lot. Some claim to have this gift, others don't and some believe it's all false brought about by the Charismatics - oh we do love to beat-up the Charismatics on CC don't we? Ahem sorry a little bit of sarcasm crept in there.

I don't speak in tongues and in Paul's first letter to the Corinthians he does seem to suggest it's the least important of the gifts. He also suggests that when tongues is spoken in public there should be an interpreter present yet I have never heard of anyone with the gift of interpretation? Has anyone here on CC? I don't believe that everyone who claims to have this gift is genuine and those who do often use it for their own reasons rather than how I think it should be used. Tongues seems to me to be the most abundant of the gifts, I do not see too many of the other gifts in action anywhere near as often. Some seemingly good Christians do not have the ability to speak in tongues - many do. I wonder why God blesses some with this gift whilst "denying" others and actually what purpose does it serve anyway?

Just a few of my thoughts...over to you.
The gift of Tongue is a important gift for every believer. In fact it is so important that it is the first gift the Holy Spirit gives to a believer, immediately He fills the believer (Acts 2-12). But unfortunately, many believers are missing out of the immense benefit of this awesome gift of the Spirit as a result of unbelief.

Now contrary to your suggestion that the gift of tongues is insignificant, I want to prove to you that the gift of Tongues is very much as important as other gifts. And I'm going to do that with my personal testimonies...

By the operation of the gift of Tongues in my life, the sins I used to struggle with, I now overcome them cheaply. In short, on one of such occasions, I was attacked by a very strong spirit of lust towards a sister I was prospecting to be my wife. Then by the leading of the Holy Spirit, as I engaged violently in speaking with other Tongues, I received an instant deliverance that made the lady seem like every other person to me, the next time I saw her.

Just last month here (May) as I prayed in other Tongues, I got a leading by the Holy Spirit, to pray for my friend who was sick over the phone, and as I prayed for him, he was instantly healed. Also the same last month, I was praying out loud in other tongues in my house, and as my neighbor overheard me, she placed her hand where she was having pains and was shouting amen, each time I concluded my Tongues prayer with the name of Jesus. And by daybreak, she was totally healed of the pains.

Some time back, I was given a fairly used Laptop as a gift, and it had challenge with the flex. But then, I didn't have any money to take it for repair, so I prayed in understanding, then in other Tongues and the Laptop worked for up to one year.

I can go on and on, giving you the testimony of the Lord which I got as result of taking God at his word and speaking in Tongues by faith.

Then for the Interpretation, The Apostle Paul said, if we speak in Tongues, we should also ask for the gift of interpretation. I asked and I received it by faith. And from time to time, as I pray in tongues, I open my mouth in faith for the interpretation, and I do get great messages from God through the Interpretations. Then at some other time, as I minister to some people, and they are attacking me with questions, as I speak in Tongues, the Holy Spirit inspires me with the right words and scriptures to reply back to them. And of course, many of those inspired replies are the interpretations.

You see many people have the gift of Tongues and Interpretation in them, but because of unbelief and religion they are not able to appropriate them for their profiting. And I think it is so because they don't believe they are achieving anything as they don't understand what they speak. And also the interpretation follows the same pattern as the Tongue itself. The interpretation of tongues is the prophetic inspiration you receive, when and after speaking in tongues.

And many a time, people do interpret, but they do not know, they are interpreting. When you say something edifying that you did not premeditate, after speaking in tongue, that's the interpretation.

To learn more about this topic, get Kenneth E. Hagins Book: "Tongues Beyond The Upper Room"
 

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1Cor.12
28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

29Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
1Cor.14
5I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.


 
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#45
I we are all born again Christians and are all like one another, then if God wanted us to speak in gibberish He would have made it a commandment for ALL His believers, not just some, to pray in tongues.
No He commanded us to love each other as He loves us....but its clear that not all have the gifts of the Holy Spirit

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; (gibberish) ;) howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
 

notuptome

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1 Corinthians 14:12-20 (NASB) [SUP]12 [/SUP]So also you, since you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek to abound for the edification of the church. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore let one who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. [SUP]15 [/SUP]What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Otherwise if you bless in the spirit only, how will the one who fills the place of the ungifted say the "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not know what you are saying? [SUP]17 [/SUP]For you are giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not edified. [SUP]18 [/SUP]I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all; [SUP]19 [/SUP]however, in the church I desire to speak five words with my mind so that I may instruct others also, rather than ten thousand words in a tongue. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Brethren, do not be children in your thinking; yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature.

Speaking, praying, & singing in tongues is listed here. If you threw away everything in scripture you didn't understand, you'd eventually throw away Jesus.
Well I do not know what seminary you went to but they ought to give you your money back.

This passage is not suggesting that you should pray in tongues. Praying in tongues is akin to pagan prayers that cannot edify anyone. Praying in the Spirit is not praying in tongues. Singing in the Spirit is not singing in tongues. You take great liberty with the scriptures to arrive at such a conclusion.

When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray Jesus did not tell them to wait for the Holy Spirit and pray in tongues. Jesus filled with the Holy Spirit never prayed in tongues according to scripture.

You know that I believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit but God ended tongues, prophecy and knowledge. Tongues were a sign gift given for the Jews, yes unsaved Jews.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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The gift of Tongue is a important gift for every believer. In fact it is so important that it is the first gift the Holy Spirit gives to a believer, immediately He fills the believer (Acts 2-12). But unfortunately, many believers are missing out of the immense benefit of this awesome gift of the Spirit as a result of unbelief.

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things i have ever heard. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but wow.

1st, off, the first gift given by God is eternal life. which was given because of the gift of faith
2nd off. The second gift given is the annointing of the spirit (the spirit enters and takes residence in you)
this gift leads to another gift, the seal of the spirit
which leads to many more gifts (being called children of God, Given an inheritance in Christ, Having God as our Abba father, vs our judge, and many many more gifts, which are FAR MORE IMPORTANT than speaking in some jiberish.

and finally. The gift given to the believers in pentecost was a sign, THEY HEARD PEOPLE SPEAK IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE. they did not hear people speak in giberish. WOW to think we miss out on this amazing gift really?

If I had to speak to a russian or Spaniard, and no one could interpret my words into their language, or their language into mine so we could understand each other. then wow. imagine God using th egift of tongues so we could communicate and share the gospel.

But the jibberish I have heard in Pentecostal churches, and gibberish some people call prayer That is not a blessing, that would be a curse. Imagine talking and you can not understand what you said, and NO ONE WILL INTERPRET FOR YOU (which actually according to the word of God. is supposed to be rejected as being from God)
 

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#48
The Holy Spirit works upon and within a believer and scripture proves this out.
The Holy Spirit dwells within all who are believers. The presence of the Holy Spirit is in believers and in the OT He was upon believers.
Your greatest deception was assuming EMber and others here beleive tongues is the initial evidence of the filling of the Holy Spirit.
This is pure assumption and wholly without merit. John 20 is vastly different from Acts 2.
Ember never stated what some Pentecostal believers do, that tongues, is the initial evidence of the filling of the Holy Spirit.
So?
I totally disagree with that statement because it is not found in the Bible anywhere. It says the power to witness is an evidence of the Spirit upon and not within you.
You are not correct. The Holy Spirit is in believers which is a change from OT believers.
Cessastion thugs like you assume all the time. I am praying your assumptions about others and what you think the Bible says does not result in Jesus saying, Depart from me. I never approved of you.
Thugs? That's a new one on me. Some will not endure sound doctrine instead heaping to themselves teacher having itching ears. You hear what you want to hear and reject that which you do not like.

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Well I do not know what seminary you went to but they ought to give you your money back.

This passage is not suggesting that you should pray in tongues. Praying in tongues is akin to pagan prayers that cannot edify anyone. Praying in the Spirit is not praying in tongues. Singing in the Spirit is not singing in tongues. You take great liberty with the scriptures to arrive at such a conclusion.

When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray Jesus did not tell them to wait for the Holy Spirit and pray in tongues. Jesus filled with the Holy Spirit never prayed in tongues according to scripture.

You know that I believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit but God ended tongues, prophecy and knowledge. Tongues were a sign gift given for the Jews, yes unsaved Jews.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Foreign language(tongues) was a sign for the Jew(This people.) It is why Paul liked the sign of foreign language.He was a patriot and loved his fellow countrymen(Israel)
 

notuptome

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The gift of Tongue is a important gift for every believer. In fact it is so important that it is the first gift the Holy Spirit gives to a believer, immediately He fills the believer (Acts 2-12). But unfortunately, many believers are missing out of the immense benefit of this awesome gift of the Spirit as a result of unbelief.

Now contrary to your suggestion that the gift of tongues is insignificant, I want to prove to you that the gift of Tongues is very much as important as other gifts. And I'm going to do that with my personal testimonies...

By the operation of the gift of Tongues in my life, the sins I used to struggle with, I now overcome them cheaply. In short, on one of such occasions, I was attacked by a very strong spirit of lust towards a sister I was prospecting to be my wife. Then by the leading of the Holy Spirit, as I engaged violently in speaking with other Tongues, I received an instant deliverance that made the lady seem like every other person to me, the next time I saw her.

Just last month here (May) as I prayed in other Tongues, I got a leading by the Holy Spirit, to pray for my friend who was sick over the phone, and as I prayed for him, he was instantly healed. Also the same last month, I was praying out loud in other tongues in my house, and as my neighbor overheard me, she placed her hand where she was having pains and was shouting amen, each time I concluded my Tongues prayer with the name of Jesus. And by daybreak, she was totally healed of the pains.

Some time back, I was given a fairly used Laptop as a gift, and it had challenge with the flex. But then, I didn't have any money to take it for repair, so I prayed in understanding, then in other Tongues and the Laptop worked for up to one year.

I can go on and on, giving you the testimony of the Lord which I got as result of taking God at his word and speaking in Tongues by faith.

Then for the Interpretation, The Apostle Paul said, if we speak in Tongues, we should also ask for the gift of interpretation. I asked and I received it by faith. And from time to time, as I pray in tongues, I open my mouth in faith for the interpretation, and I do get great messages from God through the Interpretations. Then at some other time, as I minister to some people, and they are attacking me with questions, as I speak in Tongues, the Holy Spirit inspires me with the right words and scriptures to reply back to them. And of course, many of those inspired replies are the interpretations.

You see many people have the gift of Tongues and Interpretation in them, but because of unbelief and religion they are not able to appropriate them for their profiting. And I think it is so because they don't believe they are achieving anything as they don't understand what they speak. And also the interpretation follows the same pattern as the Tongue itself. The interpretation of tongues is the prophetic inspiration you receive, when and after speaking in tongues.

And many a time, people do interpret, but they do not know, they are interpreting. When you say something edifying that you did not premeditate, after speaking in tongue, that's the interpretation.

To learn more about this topic, get Kenneth E. Hagins Book: "Tongues Beyond The Upper Room"
Boldly unbiblical and something that should shame every Pentecostal or charismatic. Yet some here will fawn all over this kind of stuff. And we wonder what's wrong with the church in this day.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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So #3 in my "Gifts" series is "Tongues", I believe this one is the most controversial of the lot. Some claim to have this gift, others don't and some believe it's all false brought about by the Charismatics - oh we do love to beat-up the Charismatics on CC don't we? Ahem sorry a little bit of sarcasm crept in there.

I don't speak in tongues and in Paul's first letter to the Corinthians he does seem to suggest it's the least important of the gifts. He also suggests that when tongues is spoken in public there should be an interpreter present yet I have never heard of anyone with the gift of interpretation? Has anyone here on CC? I don't believe that everyone who claims to have this gift is genuine and those who do often use it for their own reasons rather than how I think it should be used. Tongues seems to me to be the most abundant of the gifts, I do not see too many of the other gifts in action anywhere near as often. Some seemingly good Christians do not have the ability to speak in tongues - many do. I wonder why God blesses some with this gift whilst "denying" others and actually what purpose does it serve anyway?

Just a few of my thoughts...over to you.
1cor 12, 13, 14 really do speak very clearly to the " Gifts of the Holy Spirit" which Tongues happens to one of many of them. As all Gifts the Lord entrust us with, man has abused everyone. But yet He still empowers us for the gift to be used to edify, comfort and Build up. all the gifts are for today and they have been misused as they were then and that is why Paul under the Holy Spirit corrected the immaturity, and ignorance of these gifts which the Holy Spirit gives as HE sees.
 
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I we are all born again Christians and are all like one another, then if God wanted us to speak in gibberish He would have made it a commandment for ALL His believers, not just some, to pray in tongues.
What do you mean by the almost blasphemous, "gibberish"?

Every Christian who is baptized in the Holy Spirit (not water), has the ability to pray and worship in tongues, if they would simply give over the control to Him.

As for the gift of speaking in tongues where God is actually speaking to the congregation, that gift is to be accompanied by an interpreter by His gifting as well. Those ministry gifts are not for everyone, just like Paul says.
 

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No He commanded us to love each other as He loves us....but its clear that not all have the gifts of the Holy Spirit

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; (gibberish) ;) howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
That is true but he goes on to say in 1 Cor 14:4 That "He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesied (not in gibberish and understood by everyone) edifies the church."

This is another reason, to me of course, that this kind of "tongue" should be done in privet. Like I said before if no one can understand it then it is useless to everyone but the one speaking it unless there is an interpreter present. I am also not so sure that the way he meant this wasn’t in the same way that the things of the spirit seem like foolishness to one without the spirit ears to hear. Again I am not saying all gifts are gone, or even that we shouldn't believe, but that if it is only understood by you then it is between you and God in privet.
 
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Well I do not know what seminary you went to but they ought to give you your money back.

This passage is not suggesting that you should pray in tongues. Praying in tongues is akin to pagan prayers that cannot edify anyone. Praying in the Spirit is not praying in tongues. Singing in the Spirit is not singing in tongues. You take great liberty with the scriptures to arrive at such a conclusion.

When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray Jesus did not tell them to wait for the Holy Spirit and pray in tongues. Jesus filled with the Holy Spirit never prayed in tongues according to scripture.

You know that I believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit but God ended tongues, prophecy and knowledge. Tongues were a sign gift given for the Jews, yes unsaved Jews.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
This view is a problem for the Body of Christ, as it is speaking out of ignorance as if it is fact.

Praying and/or singing to God in another tongue is praying/singing in the Spirit, just as Paul teaches. Now you must step aside from your cerebral understanding and let the Spirit of God teach you.
 
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What do you mean by the almost blasphemous, "gibberish"?

Every Christian who is baptized in the Holy Spirit (not water), has the ability to pray and worship in tongues, if they would simply give over the control to Him.

If your not baptised in the spirit your not saved, water never saved anyone,

The gift of tongues or any gift does not come from baptism, it comes from the anointing (God in us) of the spirit
 
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Well I was speaking from my own experience, and the case you just made seemed to be an actual language that was recognized, if it was then that is in line with what the bible says it is. I wasn't saying it couldn't happen, or even that it doesn't happen these days. I am just saying the charismatic type gibberish that I’ve seen dominate the modern definition, and that I can do right now, is not what Acts described in my understanding. I even had an example of it being interpreted in my church, which was the question of the OP. I’m not sure what you were telling me or correcting me on, but for the most part I agree other than me not feeling the incoherent (I don’t mean this as harsh as it sounds, just that you can’t understand what is being said) babbling that goes on, and that passes for tongues these days is the same thing described in Acts. It is also said that without someone present to interpret what’s being said it’s completely pointless (1Cor 14:27). Don’t get me wrong, if you feel it gets you closer to God and is from the Holy Spirit then more power to you, but I think that if that is the case it should be done in privet, not because “I don’t want to hear it”, but because it’s your own personal thing and serves no purpose for those unable to understand it. I also don’t think it’s “proof” of one’s salvation either, I’ve seen to make unbelievers do it to believe that.
I wasn't correcting you or reproofing you. I was telling you about a case where the Biblical version of what happened to the apostles at Pentecost is still happening today. People heard their original language and some understood it. Pretty cool!

As for the rest of what you said? Yup. I agree with you. (And that's not saying we're right or wrong. I really don't know. I just agree with you anyway. lol)
 
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I can speak in tongues and also interpret. I normally speak in tongues when I'm alone and I am interceding in prayer for someone. Sometimes God will put a person in my heart to pray for. Then I pray in tongues and God shows me exactly how to pray for an them. There have been many times where I later see those same people and they share with me that same struggle that God had revealed to me in prayer. I don't tell them though-- It's exciting to know that I prayed the right prayer!

Every now and then there are people in church who speak in tongues and have no interpretation. There are a couple of women in my church who interpret for them. I don't publicly speak in tongues nor do I interpret. However, right before someone is going to interpret a word from God publicly, I quietly speak in tongues and wait for God to reveal the word to me as confirmation. Once again I don't go announcing it to everyone, it's something that's between me and God. I don't feel led to tell my pastor that I can interpret tongues.

However, only once did God ever want me to give someone a word from him. In my previous church I was at a women's prayer meeting-- we were praying and some of the ladies were speaking in tongues. God gave me a word for some woman and He wanted me to speak it, so I did. This woman started balling because it was an answer to her prayer. It was a blessing because I had the privilege of seeing God actually manifest that word in this woman's life.

I believe this gift is meant to edify the body of Christ. I do feel that speaking in tongues out loud with no one to interpret is pointless. Praying in tongues between you and God is a beautiful thing. Sometimes people are given this gift and can't interpret because the person hasn't matured in the gift. I was given the gift of tongues when I was about 12 yrs old. I was in church when it happened and no one made me do it nor did I even ask God for it. I didn't even no it was a gift At the time I couldn't even interpret what I was saying. I remember the first time I spoke in tongues and my friend was standing next to me. She was shocked and told me she had no idea what I was saying. She even tried to copy me, but it didn't quiet sound the same.:) I never told my parents about that experience. Then when I got in my twenties I could actually hear the voice of God give me a word in my spirit. I didn't know it was him till I started getting confirmations through the word, songs, and sermons. I was amazed that I was hearing from God and that it wasn't something I made up in my head.

I know this gift doesn't make sense to people, but God is very complex and none of us will ever fully understand him. Another thing I've learned about this gift is that God usually doesn't have you give someone a personal message that he didn't already reveal to them first. So if someone says they are giving you a word from God, but God never revealed it to you first, then be careful about receiving that word, especially if it's something negative.
Again, this isn't reproof nor correction, but, hey, you're a tongue-talker, I'm not, and, although hubby has tried to explain what happens to him, he's only one guy, so this is an opportunity to ask another tongue-talker questions.

1. When you pray in tongues, do you have any idea what you're saying? If you do, how does that work? If you don't, why bother?

2. You said you can interpret other's tongues sometimes, but don't interpret loud so others can hear it. Why not?

3. There's a problem with taking anyone else's word of encouragement or prophecy even if it is encouraging. As mentioned, I've always been naive, so I tend to do what I think is right at the time. When I was young and naive, a good friend of mine was taking her laundry up the steps while her six month old was napping. She fell backwards. The steps were slate. The church got word about what happened. She was in a coma, or she was brain dead and her husband (also a good friend) was at the hospital praying if he should pull the plug.

I got "a vision" of her with her three little children in church together praising God while a group of us prayed. It was encouraging. It could have been a vision. I didn't know, so I told. Everyone was so happy to hear she would recover. I certainly felt better.

Until the next day, when her husband had the plug pulled. I didn't mean any harm. I really wanted my friend to be okay, so I imagined her okay. I was also so thankful her husband wasn't with us praying. How much hurt I would have added to his pain.

Because of that, I wouldn't cut it down to just "if it's something negative."
 

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This view is a problem for the Body of Christ, as it is speaking out of ignorance as if it is fact.

Praying and/or singing to God in another tongue is praying/singing in the Spirit, just as Paul teaches. Now you must step aside from your cerebral understanding and let the Spirit of God teach you.
The "problem" with your position is that it reads into the passage a bias to support a preconceived outcome. It's just not there no matter how much you want it to be. The Holy Spirit always leads into the truth.

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You make an idiotic assumption about my filling with the Holy Spirit. I will be generous and say that you simply misunderstand what it is to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

tongues have nothing to do with filling of the Holy Spirit since they ceased according to 1 Cor 13:8. I do not want to reargue the issue because you will not receive the scriptures because you have your feelings to replace the scriptures.

The Holy Spirit is the gift of God given the moment we receive Christ as our Savior.

The tongues in the bible are human languages not as some claim to be unknowable languages.

Israel saw unknown languages as a sign of judgment from God. They were taken captive and carried into lands where they did not speak the language. That's bible and that's history.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I have been a Christian for 43 years now? However did I make it this far without you being around to interpret the Bible for me?
 
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SO Paul spoke in Greek, the church at Corinth spoke in Greek, so why do you guys always try to spin tongues in 1 Cor 14 as "another " different human language?
Because we know history and geography? You know, like Corinth was/is a seaport, so people from other countries with other languages traveled through, and some stayed often enough, just like people do with seaports today. (There's a reason cities along the American coastline tend to be more multicultural than inland.) And, history? Well, let's just say if you knew anything about Greek history, you'd know it was checkered with, not only foreign invaders, but local invaders. "Greek states" isn't the same sense as "American states." It's more like independent colonies who ebb and flow in power. To this day, Greece can't even get along with itself. They're still rivalries, and they're still determined to make others see things from their point of view, which is, strictly speaking one based on exactly where they live.

We think it was a different language because of the word itself and it's use in Acts. Honest, if you'd look at the Bible objectively, instead of reduce it down to what you can understand, God gets bigger than just a really big man.