Bashing Gays

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JoelG

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When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged atthat time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.
 

oldhermit

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When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged at that time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.
You need to spend more time reading the gospels. You have no idea what you are talking about.
 

JimmieD

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When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another.
(a) So do you think that it's never ok to point out when someone is wrong, or are people supposed to shut up and not say anything? If you're going to look at what Jesus did, I'm pretty sure he pointed out sin, often in very harsh ways.

(b) Aren't you, on this very thread, pointing out some things you think people are doing wrong (like "bashing" other people)? Isn't this a little hypocritical? On your own principle, shouldn't you quit pointing all of this out or is it ok when you do it, bust just not ok when people who disagree with you do it?

But no one should be playing God cop.
So quit trying to be the police telling other people how they should be behaving.

And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time.
So the basic message is to do what you say, keep your heads down and don't make any fuss? Isn't it convenient that you can criticize others, but when those others disagree with your views they are to just keep quiet? You should probably quit telling other people what to do. You can't have it your way all the time.

Jesus did not bash the gays to their face.
(a) This wasn't an issue in Jesus' time because,
(b) Openly practicing homosexuals in Judea would have probably been shamed and ostracized by their family and village and probably would have been stoned in those days, which means they didn't celebrate their attractions in public.

And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels.
Did he? Or is this just you imagining a few things about Jesus' travels?

Jesus says a lot of things about marriage, btw. And it was always in the context of a man and a woman. Given that you think he must have met a few in his travels, why didn't he ever sanction their behavior? Why did he teach the opposite?

Why did he never say a word to them.
Because for Jesus, as any 1st century Palestinian Jew, marriage was pretty obviously between a man and a woman, there wasn't even a debate on it. There were debates on other aspects of marriage, such as divorce (commented on by Hillel and Shammai followers) and levirate marriage after the resurrection.

It's like asking why he didn't speak out against drunk driving? It wasn't even a topic of debate.

There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted.
Quit "bashing."

Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem?
I thought we weren't supposed to be pointing out this "problem?"

Must we bully these people who think different than us?
What exactly do you mean by "bully" and "bash?"

Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.
Same to you. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 

zoii

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Very interesting points JoelG ty.
 

JimmieD

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Very interesting points JoelG ty.
...but not really. It's really an uncritical soundbite turned paragraph where he basically tells everyone it's ok when he points wrong things out, but it's not ok for others who disagree with his views to point those things out. As well, terms are ill defined, exegesis is of the text is absent, and context of the New Testament and 1st century Judaism is ignored,
 
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Ugly

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He didn't say anything new.
And three words.... Wall Of Text.
 

NotmebutHim

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Just another veiled attempt to get us to accept homosexuality as "normal"

Being that Jesus is the Word of God, He (through the Holy Spirit) wrote the various passages of Scripture that deal with homosexuality. He was definitely not silent on, or accepting of, the practice.
 
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But, ironically, lesbianism is very well exploted to -subliminally- lure MY mind away from what I already know what God has said... Who told them men love "many" women? Satan!

And many Holywood´s pics are set up on that stage.
 
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Mitspa

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When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged atthat time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.
Ro 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
 

jsr1221

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Why is it people think those that say to come across homosexuals with love is considered "accepting the culture"? Too much hate goes on this site, especially with this subject. Yes homosexuality is a sin, and we should minister to the LGBT, but that doesn't mean we treat them like dirt on the bottom of our shoe, which is what a lot of you people do. They're human beings. They're our brothers and sisters and Christ that are lost. We should be praying instead of fighting. Jesus says to love one another, yet I see anything but love from a lot of people on here.
 
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Mitspa

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Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
 
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Elysian

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When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged atthat time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.

Are you an Anarchist or a Christian?
 

Yet

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The 'church' does have a problem pointing out the world's sins but refuse to line up with Gods plan for a 'gathering'. People tell me I'm on a tirade because I contrast churchianity with the word of God. The differences are stark and 2Tim. 3:1-9 is in play in these last days. I dare you to read it. Verse 5 reveals to us who it is speaking of....the 'church'.
Most want me to put a lid on it....go away. But they are the first to point out the sins of the world.
The world doesn't know better. We do! That's the damning difference.

We are not to judge those without but those within! 1Cor. 5-12-13
 

Magenta

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I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another.
Jesus answered him, “You would have no power over me unless it had been given you from above; therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.” John 19:11
 

Magenta

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Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.
I believe you are right, that gender dysphoria is becoming more pronounced. One of the problems with the major changes that are going on as time progresses, moving us farther and farther away from the purity of the garden, is that people start to think it is okay to experiment in all manner of ways that they never would have dared to years ago. They pollute their mind, body, and spirit with such deviations from what is "normal" for them sexually in a bid to be culturally relevant, cool, and accepted. Take a closer look at Romans 1:26 and 27. People are said to have exchanged normal relations for abnormal. That suggests a voluntary action, not something that may be natural according to genetic predisposition, and is therefore a perversion. This is a direct result of:

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened... They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised.

For the record, I have never bashed gay people.
 
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JoelG

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Excuse me. I was not knocking anybody. Its hard to express issues entirely correct when a thought is at mind. And, I am not hung up on it either. I just happen to read a thread where people were doing the bashing right here on this web site and I felt sad about it. Again I am sorry.
 
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atwhatcost

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When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged atthat time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.
First, are you remotely aware that CC is not an American site? (It's true. Check it out. lol)

Second, so, this is you telling us to be indifferent but a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of thing? Yeah. Not really. Not really going to happen for these reasons:

1. I don't bash homosexuals.

2. I care about people, so, no, I'm really not into letting people wallow in their sins. Might as well let them roll in gasoline and then be the one to light the match.

3. I'm not libertarian for the very reasons you demonstrated on this post. This was really about your political beliefs. You just think you're something special because you think it's about your religious beliefs.

4. I'm really not into being bashed as a stereotype from someone who thinks he can stereotype everyone into one of two groups: himself or all others. I'm really not into listening to self-righteous, especially when it's not self-righteous either.

So one thing we agree on -- bullying doesn't work. But thanks for the attempt to bully anyway. It was ineffective on many points.
 
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JoelG

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Someone asked if I was an Anarchist or a Christian. My profile says I am a Christian. I would call myself a "Thomasalite", because I am borderline Atheist. I became a member here because I am still seeking to find the truth by reading and asking questions. I find that every single issue in the bible is debated. One person ask me to go back and read the bible because of what I said, and that I was wrong. Maybe I did come on like a donkey, but I thought I was being nice to the gays. Which made it seem like I was on their side. I believe in the one that says, "Do not throw your pearls to swine". Everybody knows what the bible says, but if you do not believe in the Bible there is no sin. Sin does not exist without God. Without God, there is only laws of man that we must live by. If the bible says it is going to get gnarly in the end times, would it not be futile to try to stop was is destine to happen. It is not easy to believe in God, as easy as it is to just say I believe in God; it is really hard for some people to say. I can't figure out why people would choose to live certain lifestyles with no regard for Jesus. This world is very intense.
 

Angela53510

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I do think you need to go back and read the Bible. But not just the passages on homosexuality, but all of it!

Because everyone should be reading the Bible to grow in their faith.