Bashing Gays

[JimmieD]

I believe in the one that says, "Do not throw your pearls to swine".

That proverb was applied by Jesus specifically to the issue of proclamation of the gospel. He didn't go around with every disagreement and say, "don't cast pearls before swine!" to all of his opponents. So I doubt you can apply this quote out of Matt 7:6 to this discussion.

(see also Matt 10:14-15, 15:26, 22:5-6, 24:10)

 

[secularhermit]

Hermit, what's wrong with your picture? Your head slightly tilted in a kidding manner? So what.

You're a good looking guy, and my saying so is no more a sin than you goofing off in that picture.

Grace, my Brother. And peace to you and yours.

Thanks for asking, bro!

In my opinion that pic is quite afeminate and I wanted to stop my ex from more pictures and, with that ONE she knew she needed to stop that session (and she did only 1 shot).

What I don´t see good looking is hurting those Jesus ALSO wants them to be repented to turn back.

Why aren´t ppl bashing on those areas of cheating on, lying and luring ppl away to do whatever thing they are pleased?

I myself, as a dad, would feel hurt if my sons or daughters chose another sexual behaviour but, even if they do it wrongly, they will be my family till my last breath and, today, I´m teaching them to be responsable on avoiding to cheat on, to avoid being cheated on, with those lies "heartbreakers" think they are good at.

I had a black sheep, Elisha. He is really handsome and loves to exploit sexually the girls he has and those he has had.

One day he aldo wanted to lure one of those EXes I had, becasue she was rich! So, at goofing myself for the things I have said and learned, I don´t think homosexuals are worst than other sinners (like me).

Additionally, I dare to say that some lesbians chose to be so, becasue they were so hurt, disappointed in their love affairs (as adults) that they gave "that try" just to see WHERE they could find the love they ALL missed (there are exceptions).

Few weeks back, my older daughter talked to me and, as I heard, she also has being tried to be lured away by a lesbian (who is not any longer her friend at high school). In those confession that girl told her what her life has been and, before she arrived at the age of 18, she has being hurt and disappointed more than me.

What would be the end of them?

Drugs and suicide?

And I know of them, who also chose suicide.

 

[secularhermit]

Leave it up to God and stop judging, amen.

As Christians EACH is entitled to assume his/her DISCERNING position but, as you´ve said, judging belongs to God.

But, apart from what you wisely said, sir, after reading what other ppl think or said:

What about David?
He has more women than 1 mortal man deserved 1 single night and Nathan had to tell him things he did wrong when he picked the woman of 1 of his faithful soldiers.

What about Jacob and those who have had more than 1 single woman?

Are God´s standards less for those He visited first?

Has He changed since He created Adam, who only had one wife?


As a matter of sexual sins He (God) was unhappy with those priests who were sleeping with the women who guarded the temple´s doors?

Is that sexual sin "less" compared to other sins we´ve heard of?

Parciality!

And VOID parciality, by the way, because many countries have lost the RESPECT they had from former enemies.

Yes! Approving gay marriage has shown social and political weaknesses some States already had hiddenly.


I can thank God I have loved one woman who worked as a whore and I don´t mind I could be blessed to marry a loyal ex-lesbian.

 

[presidente]

When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged atthat time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.

You can't say Jesus never said anything to homosexuals. We just don't know. John lets us know that Jesus did many things that weren't written down.

Jesus endorsed the law and spoke against fornications. Jesus went 'to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.' The Grecco-Roman culture had people practicing homosexual behavior. But Jesus ministered among Jewish people. If someone were known to be practicing this sort of sexual perversion, they might have been expelled or possibly executed. So there probably wasn't a really big distinct 'gay' subculture like we see in the west in the communities of the people He was preaching to. Rome may have been a different story, but that was a different place.

Who are these Christians who 'bash' gays. Telling people that what they are doing is sin is not the same thing as 'bashing' them. I've never seen a preacher hit a homosexual with a baseball bat.

Calling preaching against sin 'bashing' is a really twisted kind of rhetoric I see from time to time. Certain verses in the Bible are labeled as 'clobber verses' as if it is violent to quote scripture or teach on it.

There is no scientific evidence for the existence of 'homophobia' either. There is no reason to think that being grossed out by the idea of homosexual activity is not just a normal, natural reaction. That actually makes sense. We aren't designed to have sex with the same gender. Biologically, it doesn't make sense. 'Homophobia' not a phobia. It's something made up by homosexuals who try to promote a certain philosophy about sexuality.

 

[Mitspa]

Yet to see anyone bashing gays on this thread..but we do see those who uphold Gods moral standards being bashed..

 

[resurrection33]

When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged atthat time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.

We cannot be consistently happy until we repent of our sin. Homosexuality is a sin (Mark 10:6-8).

 

[JoelG]

There are some children who are struggling with their sexual identity. And, they are not gay. My grandson wants to be a girl. And he acts the part. He has no clue of what is acceptable. I tell him that he is going to get picked on at school if he keeps it up and he blocks out what I say. He can not comprehend. He wears a towel on his head and pretends it is long hair. He acts like he is a princess. His halloween costume last year was a Maleficent, with the wings, cape and horns. My grandson is just 6 years old , but started acting like this since I can remember.
I see several shows on TV with other kids having this same problem. I never saw this stuff going on in the 50's when I was a boy.
So, I see it as an misunderstood area of human behavior. Why label and hurt the innocent?
I can honestly say he was born this way.

 

[Mitspa]

There are some children who are struggling with their sexual identity. And, they are not gay. My grandson wants to be a girl. And he acts the part. He has no clue of what is acceptable. I tell him that he is going to get picked on at school if he keeps it up and he blocks out what I say. He can not comprehend. He wears a towel on his head and pretends it is long hair. He acts like he is a princess. His halloween costume last year was a Maleficent, with the wings, cape and horns. My grandson is just 6 years old , but started acting like this since I can remember.
I see several shows on TV with other kids having this same problem. I never saw this stuff going on in the 50's when I was a boy.
So, I see it as an misunderstood area of human behavior. Why label and hurt the innocent?
I can honestly say he was born this way.

Ok lets go along with you for a min...you claim these kids are effeminate in their actions...ok so where is the part where they don't have to submit to God or where is the part where the parents are not responsible to shape these children into what God intended them to be?...The fact that a parent would allow a little boy to dress up as a girl and encourage their unhealthy desires, kinda speaks about what my be part of the problem?

 

[Mitspa]

I knew kids that seemed to be born slapping others and fighting...but the parents are responsible to correct behavior and shape the child.

 

[BarlyGurl]

There are some children who are struggling with their sexual identity. And, they are not gay. My grandson wants to be a girl. And he acts the part. He has no clue of what is acceptable. I tell him that he is going to get picked on at school if he keeps it up and he blocks out what I say. He can not comprehend. He wears a towel on his head and pretends it is long hair. He acts like he is a princess. His halloween costume last year was a Maleficent, with the wings, cape and horns. My grandson is just 6 years old , but started acting like this since I can remember.
I see several shows on TV with other kids having this same problem. I never saw this stuff going on in the 50's when I was a boy.
So, I see it as an misunderstood area of human behavior. Why label and hurt the innocent?
I can honestly say he was born this way.

He was born an unsaved sinner just like every human being but Jesus. His issue is behavior,... which is NOT being molded by God fearing parents... six year olds are not transgender. I am very sorry that you are witnessing this LIE OF SATAN play out in your own family... < I can relate>... however, shaping your thinking to conform to the world is not going to provide a solution which honors God.

 

[VioletReigns]

Our battle isn't against flesh & blood but against principalities, powers & rulers of the darkness. I totally believe these "powers" try to influence and beguile the whole world, like the serpent in the Garden of Eden. These influencing spirits try to tempt us to compromise what God says. The only standard we have is Jesus Christ. He is the Truth and the Life.

 

[Galatians2-20]

When anyone points fingers at someones sin then they themselves are sinning. This is a form of gossip. This is making the accuser seem more just, than the accused. When in fact we are all sinners. I did not know that God judges one sin greater than another. Now, as far as the gay people, they have been warned. If the bible is true then, they will be judged atthat time. But no one should be playing God cop. And, as far as God blessing the United States and how we might loose that benefit because of the gays is no more than opinion. God does not care about borders. It rains everywhere. The people are the same all over the planet. We all share the exact human nature to sin. We all share the human nature to want to have an independent life. How great is this country when everybody is telling how you should live, that's not freedom. This epidemic has been going on since before the time of Jesus and the time before that. Enough is enough. You can't have it your way all the time. Jesus did not bash the gays to their face. And, I am sure he must have met a few during his travels. Why did he never say a word to them. There must be something in the food we are eating and it is making the children get their hormones mixed up. Because I see this gender confusion becoming more popular these days. And, then there is some who are just plain perverted. Is it really our business as good Christians to get rid of this problem? Are we afraid that God will kill all the good people along with the bad people, again? Must we bully these people who think different than us? Act like a real Christian and show more love and compassion for your fellow man and work on cleaning up your act first.

God has already judged homosexuality in His word. There is nothing wrong with a Christian warning a homosexual concerning what the Bible says about homosexuality. When we read the Bible and take God at His word, that's called faith. It takes a lot of faith to minister to someone who lives a different lifestyle than your own. Why? Because an authentic Christian knows that he or she does not have the ability within themselves to change someone's mind or to save someone's soul. They are trusting in the fact that God honors His holy word and it is Him who does the changing and saving.

Jesus never tells a Christian that they can not judge. However, He does tell them that when they do judge, to do so righteously. In other words, before we minister to someone about their sin, we should repent of our own sins and we must check our hearts to be sure that we doing so out of a pure motive. See Matthew, chapter 7. I could go into detail, but those are the basics.

 

[Bibleteacher33]

homosexuality is one of the 4 sins that cry for vengeance - it is my practice not to associate with any homosexuals, to do otherwise is to condone their behavior. See Romans 1:20-30

 

[jaybird88]

the people that are bashing are those that have been pushed to the limit and beyond. the problem most have with the gay thing is the gay acceptance being rammed down our throat.

 

[Bibleteacher33]

the people that are bashing are those that have been pushed to the limit and beyond. the problem most have with the gay thing is the gay acceptance being rammed down our throat.

No homosexuals will enter the kingdom of God, so said God

 

[blondieindahouse]

Very interesting points JoelG ty.

Coming from a biblical viewpoint. No. No they arent interesting in the least.
Do you read the Bible?

 

[atwhatcost]

There are many christians who might not know any verses in the new testament that speaks against h-sexuality except Romans 1. And Jesus didn’t seem to say anything except to be positive about marriage between a man and a woman. The old testament called h-sexuality an abomination (Leviticus 20:13). Sodom and Gomorrah have been linked to h-sexuality because they desired the 2 male angels rather than Lot’s 2 daughters.

Then a couple days ago I thought of what Jesus had said about Capernaum, and how “it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.”

Matthew 11:23, 24



So what Jesus implied is that it doesn’t look good for Sodom in the day of judgment, but Capernaum had been blessed with “mighty works” but still would not repent.

There’s an occult spirit of h-sexuality (such as in SF) that ultimately can only be resisted by praying in the name of Jesus.

First, I'm not really big on the whole S & G were destroyed because of homosexuality. (You're really allowed to write the whole word out. It's a real word. Not a curse word. Not X rated. Not a sacred word.)

Second, really not into the whole "it's something so it's a spirit of..." philosophy that's crept into the church It's not an occult. (Might be a cult, but that's different than the occult.)

Third? Really? You think rape and murder is an attraction?

And, fourth, you think that Jesus didn't cover the whole law, simply because he didn't cover ever aspect of it? He fulfilled it. Can't cover it all any better than that.

 

[atwhatcost]

There are some children who are struggling with their sexual identity. And, they are not gay. My grandson wants to be a girl. And he acts the part. He has no clue of what is acceptable. I tell him that he is going to get picked on at school if he keeps it up and he blocks out what I say. He can not comprehend. He wears a towel on his head and pretends it is long hair. He acts like he is a princess. His halloween costume last year was a Maleficent, with the wings, cape and horns. My grandson is just 6 years old , but started acting like this since I can remember.
I see several shows on TV with other kids having this same problem. I never saw this stuff going on in the 50's when I was a boy.
So, I see it as an misunderstood area of human behavior. Why label and hurt the innocent?
I can honestly say he was born this way.

Acting like a girl doesn't make someone homosexual. Worry that a boy is acting like a homosexual is a great way to plant the thought in there.

You didn't know anyone in the 50's who did that when they were young? May I assume you had no brothers close to your age or younger? Girls talk. It wasn't just my brothers playing Mommy when we played house. It was all my friend's brothers too. lol

(I preferred playing Big Sister, but only because I was always Little Sister, until my brother was born 11 years later. By that time we were all dressing him up in girl's clothes. He simply doesn't remember. lol)

 

[atwhatcost]

No homosexuals will enter the kingdom of God, so said God

Whoa, and you're a Bible teacher? I'd hate to be your Bible student.

Here's the context:
1 Cor. 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

The unrighteous don't get in heaven either, so I'd be more careful if I were you. Or accept verse 11 applies to you and all the other sinners listed that God has redeemed. God didn't say homosexuals won't go to heaven. He did include the unrighteous don't inherit it, but he's even saved homosexuals, so get used to it. Changed them too, but he changes all of us unrighteous.

 

[Grandpa]

Anyone who associates who they are with the sin they are committing should be told that what they are doing is wrong.

They shouldn't try to force everyones opinion to change.

Christians sin but they don't call themselves by the sin they commit. They call themselves Christians, because that is what they relate to.

Telling someone that they don't have the right to promote Gods Morals because it is pushing their opinion on others is the biggest joke ever told. What is happening when someone tells a person not to push Gods Morals? They are pushing their opinion onto others... lol

Gays aren't being bashed. Their lifestyle is wrong and Christians are pointing it out. They are free to repent and come to Christ. Just as liars, thieves, murderers, adulterers, etc...