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There is no rebellion against my Heavenly Father in this matter. You are mistaken brother. When I had rebelled against the Lord, it was a lesson that brought me to my knees. I still did not heed His call to fulfill the work He began in me...so He faceplanted me. If you don't know what that means...it means He allowed me to lose nearly everything in my life...including the ability to walk...until I opened my ears to hear and submitted to His will. Part of which I already mentioned in this thread. He has performed miracles in my life...including restoring my ability to walk. Do you honestly think I would ever step outside of my calling to do His will to testify, teach, and preach?
No way! I serve an Almighty God that I'm willing to lay my life down for...thats not a rebellion...thats love and commitment. He warned that there will be man that will mock and shun me. As Christians, if we speak out and tell others, even our brothers and sisters...we are mocked. That is the burden of the cross that He carried and we must die for Him daily if we truly love Him.
No way! I serve an Almighty God that I'm willing to lay my life down for...thats not a rebellion...thats love and commitment. He warned that there will be man that will mock and shun me. As Christians, if we speak out and tell others, even our brothers and sisters...we are mocked. That is the burden of the cross that He carried and we must die for Him daily if we truly love Him.
I was thinking more along the line of muslim men who insist that women cover themselves so men can't see their bodies because a woman's nature is to be inflamed with passion. Those kind of issues.
I'm not trying to be a contrarian or a devil's advocate. I genuinely don't care about the issue. It's majoring in the minors, as far as I'm concerned. Little things for little minds, if I may. I'm simply being a good student of the word, a Berean who searches all things, in order to rightly divide the truth. I had no idea before this discussion that 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is quite possibly an interpolation. And I found that out by accident. But those kinds of things really interest me, and everyone really should know about that.
I'm not trying to be a contrarian or a devil's advocate. I genuinely don't care about the issue. It's majoring in the minors, as far as I'm concerned. Little things for little minds, if I may. I'm simply being a good student of the word, a Berean who searches all things, in order to rightly divide the truth. I had no idea before this discussion that 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is quite possibly an interpolation. And I found that out by accident. But those kinds of things really interest me, and everyone really should know about that.
As I said before...I'm terrified of large groups and public speaking. And you brother are wrong. There is confirmation and something much bigger than you can imagine going on that God is orchestrating on a global level. Many of us He has made our paths cross to fulfill His mass call of His people. Your ears are closed and your eyes fail to see the bigger picture than that of yourself. God can do whatever He wishes to do. More Him...less us.
God bless. You will see. I'm out.
God bless. You will see. I'm out.
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Spiritually in Christ there is no male or female. Our flesh is not in Christ. Our flesh is still male or female. There are distinctions according to the flesh. If not, are males allowed to marry other males since there is no such a thing in Christ? Of course not. God has given the church order and this order includes the distinctions between male and female.
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There no longer is male or female in regard to covenant access to God.
Christ is a NEW Covenant through which we approach God and are accepted by Him. The old covenant was the old way to do that. A way that discriminated your access to God based on your sex and nationality. Things specific to sex and nationality restricted and prohibited covenant access to God. But now that all are brought near to God in covenant through the new way of faith in Christ the old 'rules' for who can approach God, and when, are no longer applicable (what law can restrict the person ALREADY brought near to God through Christ?). This has NOTHING to do with changing the order of headship God has built into creation.
Christ is a NEW Covenant through which we approach God and are accepted by Him. The old covenant was the old way to do that. A way that discriminated your access to God based on your sex and nationality. Things specific to sex and nationality restricted and prohibited covenant access to God. But now that all are brought near to God in covenant through the new way of faith in Christ the old 'rules' for who can approach God, and when, are no longer applicable (what law can restrict the person ALREADY brought near to God through Christ?). This has NOTHING to do with changing the order of headship God has built into creation.
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Okay, then I ask.......who is the strong willed woman in your life that is driving your insistence that women are equal to men in authority in the church?
I have yet to know, personally, a man who defended equality of the sexes in the pastorate who did not have a woman in his life who was passively, or not so passively, making sure he did not deviate from or resist her opinion about this.
There is probably a woman somewhere in your life who is insistent about this. Who is it?
I have yet to know, personally, a man who defended equality of the sexes in the pastorate who did not have a woman in his life who was passively, or not so passively, making sure he did not deviate from or resist her opinion about this.
There is probably a woman somewhere in your life who is insistent about this. Who is it?
