Anxiety and depression - what worked for you?

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popeye

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This site reminds me of that kid captured in Mexico that mommy enabled,loved and cuddled into a dysfunctional narcissist.

To go against depression as a spirit,to you guys,is hating on people.

Again,depression is not a person.

To suggest God is bigger,is to be framed vehemently as some inconsiderate monster.

You guys are attacking the wrong thing.

But any intervention by God,to you,equals something so repulsive that your little juvenile pile ons,and smear jobs reveal your abhorrence of anyone trusting God.
 
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I'm all for believing God for His finished work in Christ for all things including health and provision, peace, life...all things that accompany salvation bought and paid for by the life and blood of our Lord Jesus..

I know our Father loves us dearly and it is His desire to meet us where we are in faith in order to get us whole with whatever means possible. I never go to doctors but that is a personal choice and I would never tell other people to do that.

The Lord will meet and work with us where our faith is. He wants us well!

I totally agree that depression is not the real us in our new creation but we need to have our minds renewed and it takes time and understanding and going through things in life to learn to trust the Lord in all things and in all situations. I am not there but I can see it in my spirit.

We have to start looking at our Father for His true nature.


Jesus never chided the woman with the issue of blood that went to physicians 12 years to try to get well. ( albeit in some cases today we can suffer at the hands of doctors now too but some things have gotten better since 33AD)
 
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ForthAngel

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Jesus for you is not a last resort,he is a "no resort"

Pathetic.

Why pray at all if he doesn't answer prayer?

What a helpless ,weak god,you serve.

Please show us your revelation in an example from the bible.

I will wait to read your hopeless verses.
Go away. You are a heartless man who has nothing of value to add on this thread.
 
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popeye

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#84
Got a news flash for those claiming they love and I hate on people
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You do not even know what love is.

Paul committed folks over to the devil. (to be saved in the end)

Jesus pointed to the man with devils said "hold thy peace.come out"...or "shut up. Come out"

" oh dear,how inconsiderate of both of them,no wonder us Americans reject authority. It is always so unloving"

News flash 2;
They both had the persons greatest interest in mind.
Cuddling and meds are not there

You guys are straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel
 
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popeye

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#85
Go away. You are a heartless man who has nothing of value to add on this thread.
Smearing me for taking a stand with the word.

Weak sir,very weak.

Go command someone else Jr
You have no authority.
You just assume. That's all you are doing.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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#86
isn't this thread about working through anxiety and depression?

wow. that escalated quickly.
 
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popeye

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isn't this thread about working through anxiety and depression?

wow. that escalated quickly.
they think depression is a person. So,when you address IT as an intruder,they freak.

"you are supposed to love depression"
 
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JesusIsAll

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Go away. You are a heartless man who has nothing of value to add on this thread.
Though nothing should surprise on a message board, the callousness is somewhat shocking, and the insult appalling to all suffering Christians, to even faithful men and women of God of prayer, who've forgotten more of the things of God than most people here know, who've also suffered medical conditions. It's the folly of Job's friends, all over again, that suffering involves faithlessness and sin, may as well curse God and die. Shameful. I most pray nobody suffering is paying a you-know-what's worth of attention to such arrogant, presumptuous foolishness. Somebody, I fear, is heading for some hard lessons.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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they think depression is a person. So,when you address IT as an intruder,they freak.

"you are supposed to love depression"
mental and emotional health issues are not demonic in many cases. many people actually do have it or have had it that bad for whatever reason. pain hurts, it's what it does.

love is important. that's the ultimate healer right there. LOVE. that entity who is so much smarter and wiser and more loving than any of us could ever be.
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#90
Funny you should mention MDD, that is what I have
I've been told I deal with an abnormal amount of stress. <--- I could never twist that in a way that is actually comforts me
My therapist said "It's amazing you are alive". <-- Haven't found this comforting either.
My suicide attempts are too many to even count, they were just never successful.
I do believe God can heal me. Just sometimes it feels like I am hanging on a thread which is completely worn and anything that goes wrong sends me in a complete spin.
I do appreciate both of your inputs. Thank you so much for sharing. I will try your suggestions.
The best advice I can give ye? Just up n tell the Father that you're willing to let God be God, and that you wanna make "things" easier on yourself. :cool:
 

NayborBear

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#91
The best advice I can give ye? Just up n tell the Father that you're willing to let God be God, and that you wanna make "things" easier on yourself. :cool:
(GRRRR!!!!....We needs LONGER then 5 minutes!!!) :(

REJOICE!! in your persecution. And, I mean Thanking Him who created ye for Him seeing fit for you to endure this. Laughing and jumping up and down, and Praising Him (ya, He likes that too :p).

Sounds pretty simple don't it?.......Cuz it is.......Simple, don't make it easy though. (don't asks me how's I knows this :eek:)

Throw away yer pills......Stop seeing the therapists......Make THEM go out and earn an honest living. :p
 
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Lost_sheep

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Threads like this are useful for one purpose - it lets some members show their true stripes and makes my decision to add them to my ignore list a simple one. This thread is a lot more pleasant to read when popeye's posts don't show up. I had the privilege of adding 5 members to my ignore list yesterday, and it makes reading the forums today much more pleasant.

I ain't got no time for crotchety old farts, especially those that proclaim themselves to be Christians. I've dealt with enough hypocrites in my life that I just don't care to now.
 

Billyd

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There are 2 avenues being presented. I assume,since I am outnumbered by you Doctors,that the right avenue is the world and medical miracles.

Addressing the root and the spirit,to you,equals automatic suicide?

Why call ourselves Christians when we shreik in terror at anyone that would assume the word works,and demons use human minds as a playground?

You serious about Satan winning being your default position?

You are actually framing this man's options as" bible equals suicide?"

Lets take a look at meds,the magic bullet they aren't,and suicide,since you open the door to meds equals cure,bible equals suicide.
James tells us how to deal with sickness.

James 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Six years ago I entered the operating room for open heart surgery after doing just this. Without that surgery, I would not live the weekend. With it I had a chance at a normal life. 21 days later, I left the hospital and I'm still here. The path was simple.

I asked God for his intervention.

The elders petitioned.

God sent the doctors with the solution.

I put my faith in God.

God solved my problem.

Successful surgery, a pill twice a day, and a working ticker. I give God all the glory.

You seem to be looking at mental health as sin or demon problem. In 90% or more cases, that's simply not so. That's why is is so important to seek proper medical care as soon as you begin to show symptoms.
 
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Txroads

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#94
WHAT..... IN THE NAME OF SAM HOUSTON IS GOING ON HERE???.. HOLY COW!??....

HonestlyHumbled, are you there darlin?....mmmmm!!!

Listen hun, you had some folks really trying to help you when this all started, you had some real good advise.. We're here to help you all we can.. God loves you.. Let him lead you, you do what helps you the most and we'll support you when you need it.. Sweetheart, you ain't alone, ever, your in our prayers and more importantly in Gods hands.... I'm truly sorry all this got outta hand... God bless darlin.....

((walks away mutterin somethin about lucky the only thing around here was a tater gun!!)).....
 
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James4redemption

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I'm just curious about the people who have been diagnosed with clinical depression. Have any of them took the responsibility to monitor their own thoughts, which lead to their over-all patterns of thought, which eventually leads to their over-all behavior patterns? I only ask because again, chemical imbalances are only theories. There is literally no science that backs up the claim that depression is due to an imbalance and lack of serotonin. There's none. Other forms of study are being developed for the simple fact that they can't find actual proof for the theory of chemical imbalances being the cause of depression. And that's not really surprising. Because depression is a form of self condemnation, it only leads to one thing and depression achieves depression through a pattern of similar thoughts, like anything else, it achieves success through reinforcement. So implying there's a chemical imbalance, in serotonin, is essentially saying there is something within man that is taking his free will to think for himself and forcing him to feel only one way about things. Which is kind of an outlandish thing to claim.

I'm not advocating getting off meds, but I'm also not advocating people to ignore their personal responsibilities, especially as Christians or followers of His Word. As Christians or followers of His Word you have sound doctrine in your Bible, right in front of you, if you study and think about why the concepts within the Bible are put into emphasis you might be able to learn something. The entire Scripture is filled with psychological doctrine, not just warm and fuzzy concepts. It's filled with actual advice on how and what to focus on. What to do when it becomes too much, how to study properly, that there is nothing to truly worry about because everything is in fact meaningless...which sounds depressing, but only if your thoughts are focused on holding onto things of this world etc etc (The book of Ecclesiastes). But again, I wouldn't advocate getting off meds, or even refusing them, just don't let your understanding stop there and then promote to yourself a dependency on anything.

Psalm 131:2 But I have calmed and quieted my soul, (continue reading)
Job 6:24 Teach me, and I will be silent; make me understand how I have gone astray. (continue reading)
Psalm 46:10Be still, and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth!”
Exodus 14:14 The Lord will fight for you, and you have only to be silent.
Isaiah 32:17 And the effect of righteousness will be peace, and the result of righteousness, quietness and trust forever.
Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

None of this is "quick fix" material, but psychological advice on how to direct thought.
 
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I was not sure where to put this between the options on the forums, so please excuse me if putting it here isn't appropriate.

Since childhood I struggled with depression and go between feeling low to feeling suicidal. I also struggle with anxiety. This evening it got so bad I was shaking and struggling to think.

What, in line with Christianity, has worked for you guys?

Thank you in advance
I experienced some depression in my early twenties. What seemed to help was speaking with professional counselors. One experience in particular, several visits to a psychiatrist, seemed to help. I viewed it as a confessional. But there is something in the Bible that might help with anxiety:

[29] And do not seek what you are to eat and what you are to drink, nor be of anxious mind.
[30] For all the nations of the world seek these things; and your Father knows that you need them.
[31] Instead, seek his kingdom, and these things shall be yours as well. Luke 12:29-31 RSV
 
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popeye

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Though nothing should surprise on a message board, the callousness is somewhat shocking, and the insult appalling to all suffering Christians, to even faithful men and women of God of prayer, who've forgotten more of the things of God than most people here know, who've also suffered medical conditions. It's the folly of Job's friends, all over again, that suffering involves faithlessness and sin, may as well curse God and die. Shameful. I most pray nobody suffering is paying a you-know-what's worth of attention to such arrogant, presumptuous foolishness. Somebody, I fear, is heading for some hard lessons.
Nor the equal ignorance of your knowledge of the word.

My job is not to make you religious people go against the word.

But you do a good job of that.

Over and over Jesus says " your faith has made you whole"

Stop acting like you know the word.

You jetison clear emphasis in favor of some ridiculous quest formulated in your mind that the miraculous is one and the same with word of faith,and anyone daring to venture out of your powerless little religious arena is your cue to attack their character and integrity.

You have some weird flaw in you that can not recognize who the enemy is.

Get off of me. Get right with God or whatever you need to do understand I am not your enemy.

You want folks out of the power of God?

Go for it. Get your medical credentials,hook up with a pharmacist,pour the meds down you victims,and get all puffed up with your minions here that hate any remedy that draws on heaven and God's power.

This whole site appears to be given over to hate filled attackers.
Cessationists and gooey muck demon cuddling hyper grace heretics.

You post all the verses where JESUS SAID " YOUR FAITH HAS MADE YOU WHOLE"

That position where you teach folks to JETTISON FAITH,(just unbelievable,utterly ignorantly unbelievable) is pure heretical garbage.

Ignorance gone to seed.
 
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popeye

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James tells us how to deal with sickness.

James 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. 14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Six years ago I entered the operating room for open heart surgery after doing just this. Without that surgery, I would not live the weekend. With it I had a chance at a normal life. 21 days later, I left the hospital and I'm still here. The path was simple.

I asked God for his intervention.

The elders petitioned.

God sent the doctors with the solution.

I put my faith in God.

God solved my problem.

Successful surgery, a pill twice a day, and a working ticker. I give God all the glory.

You seem to be looking at mental health as sin or demon problem. In 90% or more cases, that's simply not so. That's why is is so important to seek proper medical care as soon as you begin to show symptoms.
Well I said it over and over.

LOKK AT THE 3 nobrainers FIRST,AS A STARTING PLACE.

THEN HERE COMES ALL THE HATERS.

OF COURSE MEDS ARE A LAST RESORT.

NOT MY CHOICE,NOR MY ADVICE.

Nothing at all wrong with what you did.

I honestly can not believe the weirdness of people once a given problem is addressed from the perspective of GODS word.

NONE OF YOU HAVE HEARD WHAT I SAY.

YOU GUYS TO THE LAST MAN TWISTED MY POSITION.

REALLY,REALLY WEIRD.
 
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popeye

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I experienced some depression in my early twenties. What seemed to help was speaking with professional counselors. One experience in particular, several visits to a psychiatrist, seemed to help. I viewed it as a confessional. But there is something in the Bible that might help with anxiety:

[29] And do not seek what you are to eat and what you are to drink, nor be of anxious mind.
[30] For all the nations of the world seek these things; and your Father knows that you need them.
[31] Instead, seek his kingdom, and these things shall be yours as well. Luke 12:29-31 RSV
Ok,see this post here (not picking on you sir,but if something rises up in you to hate me it will be a normal reaction LOL)

BUT.
This is a "proper" (by cc standards cessationist 'not saying you are one') post

The correct ingredients have been mixed in. Secular,and a sprinkle of heaven.

If you do by some error,ever forget to leave out the secular part (again being sarcastic)

Don't spread it around at this site. (with out the proper asbestos shorts as default protocol)
 
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popeye

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mental and emotional health issues are not demonic in many cases. many people actually do have it or have had it that bad for whatever reason. pain hurts, it's what it does.

love is important. that's the ultimate healer right there. LOVE. that entity who is so much smarter and wiser and more loving than any of us could ever be.
Very true,all you say,very true.

Understanding the root is number one.
Getting them well is next.

Now

I came to the LORD after a divorce. I was suicidal.

I got saved.

The depression never had to be addressed. It left.

Cue gasps and disgust ( sarcasm).....but if you feel the need,blast me and my testimony real good,for I failed ,apparently, to get secular help before I got saved.