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redeemed2014

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  • Salvation is not as hard as some will make it out to be

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.



  • We are told to believe to be saved:

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.



A true belief in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) is all we need for salvation. We cannot work our way in heaven, if we do works then we have to tell the Lord that we earned it and he owes us.


  • We are all sinners we are all worthy of death.

Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.


  • Once we have freely been given salvation by grace through faith in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ we will put a new man on. Only then you will see a change from a hell bound sinner to a heaven bound saint!

God Bless
 

Magenta

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#3
  • Salvation is not as hard as some will make it out to be

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.



  • We are told to believe to be saved:

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.



A true belief in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) is all we need for salvation. We cannot work our way in heaven, if we do works then we have to tell the Lord that we earned it and he owes us.


  • We are all sinners we are all worthy of death.

Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.


  • Once we have freely been given salvation by grace through faith in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ we will put a new man on. Only then you will see a change from a hell bound sinner to a heaven bound saint!

God Bless
'Believing' may be easy...but when things get tough, 'not denying' Him is where things get rough. It takes His grace from start to finish.
 

JaumeJ

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Anyone who is saved is saved by grace. No man can do anything to ransom his own sould.

Once we are saved by grace there is no excuse to be deliberately disobedient, for this is using grace as license.

If this sounds wrong to anyone, he should have his ears examined.
 

mailmandan

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  • Salvation is not as hard as some will make it out to be

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.



  • We are told to believe to be saved:

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.



A true belief in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) is all we need for salvation. We cannot work our way in heaven, if we do works then we have to tell the Lord that we earned it and he owes us.


  • We are all sinners we are all worthy of death.

Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.


  • Once we have freely been given salvation by grace through faith in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ we will put a new man on. Only then you will see a change from a hell bound sinner to a heaven bound saint!

God Bless
Amen! That salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9) is not hard to understand. It's just hard for works salvationists to ACCEPT. It's a shame that human pride will not allow works salvationists to come to Christ. Their hands are full of their works and they will not let go in order to take hold of Christ through FAITH.
 
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Romans 10:6-9
King James Version(KJV)

6.)But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)

7.)Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

8.)But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

9.)That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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Its not our performance thats gets us saved but It Is by the grace of GOD through faith.
 
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'True' belief that doesn't produce the requisite outward manifestations (work, fruit) does not save.
 
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ladylynn

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'True' belief that doesn't produce the requisite outward manifestations (work, fruit) does not save.
Well, the truth is a right belief in Jesus Christ alone for salvation that caused someone to pass from death unto life (would have taken place) Because he who has the Son has life and he who has not the Son of God has not life but the wrath of God abides on him.

That one who has passed from death UNTO life would produce the outward manifestations of what Jesus is doing in him or her. Because they are a new creation., sealed by the Holy Spirit and made righteous in Christ.
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Ephesians 1:3-13
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

[video=youtube;P74xeS2rU14]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74xeS2rU14[/video]
 

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Ephesians 1:3-13
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

[video=youtube;P74xeS2rU14]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74xeS2rU14[/video]
Great song. They left out an important 'Sola' ...To the Glory of God Alone!
 
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PurerInHeart

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#12
  • Salvation is not as hard as some will make it out to be

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.



  • We are told to believe to be saved:

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.



A true belief in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) is all we need for salvation. We cannot work our way in heaven, if we do works then we have to tell the Lord that we earned it and he owes us.


  • We are all sinners we are all worthy of death.

Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.


  • Once we have freely been given salvation by grace through faith in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ we will put a new man on. Only then you will see a change from a hell bound sinner to a heaven bound saint!

God Bless
Paul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus- that did not save him. Paul believed- belief did not save him. Paul prayed- prayer did not save him. Paul fasted- fasting did not save him. It was not until Ananias said to Paul, "What are you waiting for? Arise, be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." And Paul got saved by what 1 Peter3:21 says "Baptism doth also now save you."
 

crossnote

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Paul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus- that did not save him. Paul believed- belief did not save him. Paul prayed- prayer did not save him. Paul fasted- fasting did not save him. It was not until Ananias said to Paul, "What are you waiting for? Arise, be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." And Paul got saved by what 1 Peter3:21 says "Baptism doth also now save you."
Paul in recounting his testimony to King Agrippa mentions nothing about baptism...

"I myself was convinced that I ought to do many things in opposing the name of Jesus of Nazareth. And I did so in Jerusalem. I not only locked up many of the saints in prison after receiving authority from the chief priests, but when they were put to death I cast my vote against them. And I punished them often in all the synagogues and tried to make them blaspheme, and in raging fury against them I persecuted them even to foreign cities. "In this connection I journeyed to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. At midday, O king, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, that shone around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew language, 'Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.' And I said, 'Who are you, Lord?' And the Lord said, 'I am Jesus whom you are persecuting. But rise and stand upon your feet, for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to appoint you as a servant and witness to the things in which you have seen me and to those in which I will appear to you, delivering you from your people and from the Gentiles—to whom I am sending you to open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.' "Therefore, O King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision,
(Act 26:9-19)

Rather in 1Cor he down plays baptism...

For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
(1Co 2:2)

I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,
(1Co 1:14)

It's Jesus who saves and those of us who believe that get baptized.
 
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RobbyEarl

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Paul in recounting his testimony to King Agrippa mentions nothing about baptism...

"I myself was convinced that I ought to do many things in opposing the name of Jesus of Nazareth. And I did so in Jerusalem. I not only locked up many of the saints in prison after receiving authority from the chief priests, but when they were put to death I cast my vote against them. And I punished them often in all the synagogues and tried to make them blaspheme, and in raging fury against them I persecuted them even to foreign cities. "In this connection I journeyed to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. At midday, O king, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, that shone around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew language, 'Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.' And I said, 'Who are you, Lord?' And the Lord said, 'I am Jesus whom you are persecuting. But rise and stand upon your feet, for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to appoint you as a servant and witness to the things in which you have seen me and to those in which I will appear to you, delivering you from your people and from the Gentiles—to whom I am sending you to open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.' "Therefore, O King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision,
(Act 26:9-19)

Rather in 1Cor he down plays baptism...

For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
(1Co 2:2)

I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,
(1Co 1:14)

It's Jesus who saves and those of us who believe that get baptized.
Why do think that Paul thanked God that He had not baptized them?
 

fredoheaven

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  • Salvation is not as hard as some will make it out to be

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.



  • We are told to believe to be saved:

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.



A true belief in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) is all we need for salvation. We cannot work our way in heaven, if we do works then we have to tell the Lord that we earned it and he owes us.


  • We are all sinners we are all worthy of death.

Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.


  • Once we have freely been given salvation by grace through faith in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ we will put a new man on. Only then you will see a change from a hell bound sinner to a heaven bound saint!

God Bless

Good preaching there my friend!
 

fredoheaven

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Paul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus- that did not save him. Paul believed- belief did not save him. Paul prayed- prayer did not save him. Paul fasted- fasting did not save him. It was not until Ananias said to Paul, "What are you waiting for? Arise, be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." And Paul got saved by what 1 Peter3:21 says "Baptism doth also now save you."


You have pour out a muddy water here and that's not what the bible says...
 

fredoheaven

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The following verses proved that before Paul was baptized, Annanias already called him Brother Saul. We also need to take note what Ananias said of Brother Saul, he needs to arise, (comma) and be baptized ( comma, because Paul is now a brother in the Lord) and washed away his sins, (comma not and) calling the name of the Lord,so that it was the calling the name of the Lord that saved Paul and not the waters of baptism.

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
 

JaumeJ

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This continual need for so many to emphasize that we are saved by grace by so many underscores teh desire of tome to confuse the truth given by the New Testament.

No one who knows Jesus Christ is concerned with his brethren and sisters not know that the only salvation is by grace in Jesus Christ .

Yet these who would confuse the family in Christ are terrified of words like "children of obedience."

It is taught in the New Testament that we were once children of disobedience but we are now, by grace children of obedience.

This goes hand and hand with how our faith establishes the law, as taught in the NTW. None of this means we are to be enslaved by the laws given by Moses as such, for Jesusw Christ has taught us just how to obey God under grace, and we are always forgiven should we slip up.

Those who continually feel a need to say we are saved by grace yet balk at being children of obedience have not been truly freed by the Blood of the Lamb of God because they have not yet experienced the libertay of graqce when they do not understand being a child of obedience.

People who are in grace, truly in grace, do not judge, they would never execute a sinner, for we are all sinners guilty of having broken all of the law.

Now if we are guilty of breaking all of the law, how do any presume to judge another for any specific sin? You may judge for yourself what is right, but do not judge your family in Jesus Chrisst.

It is good to teach grace to the new-to-Christ, though they probably have alrealdy learned this basic tenant when they came to believe, but it isnot good to keep repeating as though terrified of being obedient how we are saved by grace, beczause all who are truly liberated by Jesus are free of the law, but we know it is holy and good.

I feel pain for those who come into the forum thinking any who love Jesus so much they want to try to be just like, He are under the law.

But please, do not disguise grace in words of rebellion and stubborness, for ne is sorcery and the other is wichcraft.

Praise Jesus Christ, all children of obedience.......
 
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The following verses proved that before Paul was baptized, Annanias already called him Brother Saul. We also need to take note what Ananias said of Brother Saul, he needs to arise, (comma) and be baptized ( comma, because Paul is now a brother in the Lord) and washed away his sins, (comma not and) calling the name of the Lord,so that it was the calling the name of the Lord that saved Paul and not the waters of baptism.

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


I would agree but add that someone calling him brother as the “witness of men” did not qualify Paul as having received the Holy Spirit, as that not seen called the baptism of the Spirit.

The opening of his eyes indicated he already heard God, the hearing of faith by which all men are born again by and through.

The unseen witness of God is the greater witness. It is the witness of God and not of man in any way shape or form.

Others saw the light used to represent the word of God but did not hear the word, the qualifier showing the baptism of the Spirit has done its work of creating a new creature. .

So it was the work of God baptizing the heart of Paul making it soft that provided the ability to call on God by which Paul responded, as Paul's’ born again faith towards God (what should I do) .It was not of himself or the h20 as that seen used to represent the unseen..


Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
 
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'True' belief that doesn't produce the requisite outward manifestations (work, fruit) does not save.
'True' belief/faith produces works/fruit BECAUSE we are saved, not to become saved. A dead faith does not produce works/fruit in order to become a living faith but BECAUSE it's a living faith; just as a dead tree does not produce fruit in order to become a living tree but BECAUSE it's a living tree.