Walking in the Way

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Does the way we walk matter to God and to our Salvation? Many say all we need to do is just believe in the man Jesus as the Son of God and nothing else is required on our part. But did not the devils also believe Jesus was the Son of God as well in Matthew 8:28? Even James says here in James 2:19-20 “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”

So I say there must be more to this great Salvation in Jesus Christ than just believing who He is. I believe a true faith in Jesus Christ will produce an obedient walk of faith by Christ our righteousness working in us, which is God working and walking in us (
2 Corinthians 6:16)

I say if God is truly walking in you, then you will also walk with God in righteousness, as two cannot walk together except they be agreed.


It is written in
Genesis 5:24 “And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.” How do you suppose Enoch walked with the invisible God? I believe it was only accomplished by walking in the Way God had instructed Enoch to walk through God’s Word and Spirit bearing witness to Enoch’s spirit.

We are given a similitude of the Way that leads us to Eternal Life after man had sinned in
Genesis 3:24 “So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.”

Jumping forward into the future we see that the Word of God is the Way, the Truth, and the Life when Jesus said in John 14:4-6 “And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”


Following what the Word of God has directed for us to do has always been the way for man to walk as shown here in what God said of Abraham in
Genesis 18:19 “For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment; that the Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.”

Again keeping in the way is abiding in the words of God as shown here in
Deuteronomy 8:6 “Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.” Deuteronomy 11:22 “For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;”

Jesus said in
John 8:12 “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” Jesus also said in John 11:10 “But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.”

Abiding in the ways of the world is also to abide in darkness, but to abide in the ways of the Lord is to abide in the Light of God’s words which are like a lamp to light our way in a darkened world.


The
ways of the world and of the flesh are the broad path that leads to destruction, but to abide in the words and walk in the ways of God is the narrow path we are called to walk in, abide in, and told not to depart from.


Matthew 7:13-14 “
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the
way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:[SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
 
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Jesus said that He is the Way the Truth and the Life. I'll stick with believing in what He has done and is doing in me as His life in and through me bears fruit to God.

I can trust the Holy Spirit in me to lead me in this life now that I am in Christ - sealed with the Holy Spirit.

I am governed by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of love, the law of faith, the law of liberty and the law of Christ - Jesus Himself in me.

What a great salvation we have in Him!

John 3:15-18 (NASB)

[SUP]15 [/SUP] so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

[SUP]16 [/SUP] "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

[SUP]17 [/SUP] "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

[SUP]18 [/SUP]
"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 

Yonah

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Well the scriptures clearly teach we do have accountability and our ways must reflect His, too many want an easy way, one that doesn't require a death to self, no works on our part will gain salvation, however a true conversion from death to life is reflected in a Humble submission of the believer to the will of the One who calls, we do have a work.... to yield our ways to His, and this cannot happen on our own strength, only in His strength can we not only overcome, but live a life of humility and obedience as He showed us in His life, the choice is always ours each day each minuet, our spiritual relationship and walk with the creator of all things is not like a stop watch that just runs until the end.... we must yield ourselves to the gentle yet powerful influence of His Spirit each step on the path. "choose this day whom you will serve" as for me and my house we will serve Yahweh.
 
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Does the way we walk matter to God and to our Salvation? Many say all we need to do is just believe in the man Jesus as the Son of God and nothing else is required on our part. But did not the devils also believe Jesus was the Son of God as well in Matthew 8:28? Even James says here in James 2:19-20 “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”

So I say there must be more to this great Salvation in Jesus Christ than just believing who He is. I believe a true faith in Jesus Christ will produce an obedient walk of faith by Christ our righteousness working in us, which is God working and walking in us (
2 Corinthians 6:16)

I say if God is truly walking in you, then you will also walk with God in righteousness, as two cannot walk together except they be agreed.


It is written in
Genesis 5:24 “And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.” How do you suppose Enoch walked with the invisible God? I believe it was only accomplished by walking in the Way God had instructed Enoch to walk through God’s Word and Spirit bearing witness to Enoch’s spirit.

We are given a similitude of the Way that leads us to Eternal Life after man had sinned in
Genesis 3:24 “So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.”

Jumping forward into the future we see that the Word of God is the Way, the Truth, and the Life when Jesus said in John 14:4-6 “And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”


Following what the Word of God has directed for us to do has always been the way for man to walk as shown here in what God said of Abraham in
Genesis 18:19 “For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment; that the Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.”

Again keeping in the way is abiding in the words of God as shown here in
Deuteronomy 8:6 “Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.” Deuteronomy 11:22 “For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;”

Jesus said in
John 8:12 “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” Jesus also said in John 11:10 “But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.”

Abiding in the ways of the world is also to abide in darkness, but to abide in the ways of the Lord is to abide in the Light of God’s words which are like a lamp to light our way in a darkened world.


The
ways of the world and of the flesh are the broad path that leads to destruction, but to abide in the words and walk in the ways of God is the narrow path we are called to walk in, abide in, and told not to depart from.


Matthew 7:13-14 “
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the
way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:[SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
You're premise is off. Devils believe that God is one, they do not believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. Nor is that even an option for them.
 
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Behavior does matter in this life...here is a great video talking about it! This will bless us as we walk out our salvation that is in us in Christ.


[video=youtube;yPFZv08ZCoY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPFZv08ZCoY&list=PLgneOZ41wdT3dd5IoAJt9pFQ 48cLfEyHC&index=5[/video]
 
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FreeNChrist

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Behavior does matter in this life...here is a great video talking about it! This will bless us as we walk out our salvation that is in us in Christ.


[video=youtube;yPFZv08ZCoY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPFZv08ZCoY&list=PLgneOZ41wdT3dd5IoAJt9pFQ 48cLfEyHC&index=5[/video]
I love that scruffy guy.........;)
 
Nov 22, 2015
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I love that scruffy guy.........;)

LOL......the supposed apparent "lawlessness" of him is proof of the grace of God is in the earth today!...that made me laugh...that's not judging though...that's what some people call "facts"...
 
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There is a way which seems right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death. Proverbs 14:12

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6
 
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You're premise is off. Devils believe that God is one, they do not believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. Nor is that even an option for them.
Devils and evil spirits have been known to take up residence in flesh and blood people no? So perhaps the spirit of those who are in error is the same spirit of error that is also in those who are still walking in the flesh and of the world, like these....

Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
 
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Devils and evil spirits have been known to take up residence in flesh and blood people no? So perhaps the spirit of those who are in error is the same spirit of error that is also in those who are still walking in the flesh and of the world, like these....

Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Perhaps. But it doesn't change the fact that the premise of the OP is off.
 
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There is a way which seems right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death. Proverbs 14:12

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6
Proverbs 2 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:
[SUP]12 [/SUP]To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked;
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Whose ways are crooked, and they froward in their paths:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it."
 

John146

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Does the way we walk matter to God and to our Salvation? Many say all we need to do is just believe in the man Jesus as the Son of God and nothing else is required on our part. But did not the devils also believe Jesus was the Son of God as well in Matthew 8:28? Even James says here in James 2:19-20 “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”
The gospel of Jesus Christ is not merely believing that Jesus is the son of God. The gospel is all about recognizing that our sins need to be dealt with and the only way to overcome our sin is through the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The James passage merely states a truth that even the demons believe there is one God. That's not salvation. A lot of people may believe their is one God. The gospel is a whole different message.

Acts 16:31, "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

Romans 1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth"

Romans 10:10, "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness"

Ephesians 1:13, "In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise"

There's about 50 more.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Perhaps you do not understand the premise of the OP and are going about to build your own straw-man premise from the OP? :)
I understand it all too well. When scripture is bastardized in an effort to say that belief in Jesus Christ alone is somehow insufficient, such as you have done, it is a direct assault on the cross and a denial of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
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The gospel of Jesus Christ is not merely believing that Jesus is the son of God. The gospel is all about recognizing that our sins need to be dealt with and the only way to overcome our sin is through the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The James passage merely states a truth that even the demons believe there is one God. That's not salvation. A lot of people may believe their is one God. The gospel is a whole different message.

Acts 16:31, "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

Romans 1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth"

Romans 10:10, "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness"

Ephesians 1:13, "In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise"

There's about 50 more.
Yea, even Muslims believe in the One God of Abraham, and even claim to believe in Jesus as a prophet from God. But yet they do not truly believe and follow in what Jesus said was true. This can also be shown in so called Christians who do not truly believe and follow Jesus words concerning what He said to do.

Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
 
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I understand it all too well. When scripture is bastardized in an effort to say that belief in Jesus Christ alone is somehow insufficient, such as you have done, it is a direct assault on the cross and a denial of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Clearly you do not. The premise of the OP is to show there is more to faith in Jesus Christ than simple lip service, we must be willing to walk in the way God told us to walk through faith in the Word and words of God. :)
 
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FreeNChrist

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Clearly you do not. The premise of the OP is to show there is more to faith in Jesus Christ than simple lip service, we must be willing to walk in the way God told us to walk through faith in the Word and words of God. :)
No that's just what you were hoping to prove by your premise. But your premise is off so everything built on it is necessarily off as well.
 

John146

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Yea, even Muslims believe in the One God of Abraham, and even claim to believe in Jesus as a prophet from God. But yet they do not truly believe and follow in what Jesus said was true. This can also be shown in so called Christians who do not truly believe and follow Jesus words concerning what He said to do.

Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Things have changed my friend from the teaching in the four gospel to the Jews to what the Apostle Paul teaches to mainly the Gentile church body.
 
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No that's just what you were hoping to prove by your premise. But your premise is off so everything built on it is necessarily off as well.
So you know better than I what I was trying to show in MY OP? LOL! Perhaps you should read the title of the OP "Walking in the Way" and all the other scriptures I posted so you might get a little better insight into what I am in fact proving as true in MY OP. :)

Clearly you have an issue with me, and with having to "walk in the way" Jesus commanded us to walk. But thanks for proving my premise as true. :)
 
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It always comes down to where our faith is put. Some Christians are fearful to simply "rest" in the finished work of Jesus and put all their hopes on Him and what He did. He is clearly the Author and the Finisher of our faith. Until we step back and LET Him be our full salvation., He will let us feel the weight of the burden of being good enough to be saved.

He wants to set us free from performing to get God to approve of us. In Christ we ARE approved 100% and because we are aware of Jesus making us approved., we are then able to walk the walk of obedience because it will be the 'obedience of faith' translating to all other aspects of obedience.

Grace is the basis His relationship with us and until we receive that understanding, it will be a joyless., burdensome Christian walk. Jesus says clearly and plainly His yoke is EASY and His burden is lite. If you are weary in your well doing you are not experiencing the fullness of your salvation.

Too long "religion" (USDA flesh) has been how people relate to God. Bloodied knees and crying in sorrow and regret begging for forgiveness when all along since you received Christ., He made you a son with all the blessings that come with that. Instead of walking in the victory Christ died to give., many religious minded Christians are still begging for things Jesus has already given them but they just can't believe it.
God is not pleased with that lack of faith in His Son. He wants us to magnify the Son in our lives., NOT magnify our works + Jesus.

We will suffer when we don't let Jesus be our strength. When we stand and try to 'do' our life in our own strength., God will rest. But when we stop working and struggling., God will work in our lives. Unless we learn the discipline of "rest" God won't be able to do much in our lives. So much so does He insist we magnify the Son in our lives.