God Revealed something to me!!

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WarriorForChrist

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I'm not trying to say I had a revelation or anything but God did show me something today. I have been really contemplating the last couple weeks about the Saturday Sabbath deal. I have always gone to church on Sundays and really never gave it much thought. Lately with all the Sabbath and Law threads got me to really search the scriptures. I have even started looking at church's in my area that might hold Saturday Sabbath.

Well today I spoke to a gentleman who was holding bible studies on Friday's. He specifically asked for only Saturday Sabbath keepers. Well we talked and he was trying to convince me that the Saturday Sabbath was the right one and how if we love God we would keep it. I listened to him patiently and told him I would consider what he said.

Well tonight when I got home my wife and I started reading the bible and God had me turn to Romans and specifically Romans 14 and 15. I'm not going to paste both chapters but it talks about how we shouldn't be critical of others for believing one way or the other. If someone wants to eat a certain way we shouldn't condemn them for it and vice versa. It also goes as far to say if what we eat causes another to stumble then we shouldn't eat in front of them.

Romans 14:5-9 really hit home. Basically says if someone says one day is more holy than another and others feel all days are alike who are we to criticize each other? Isn't this what we are all doing right now on this forum? We sit here and criticize each other for things that scripture says not to do. I am as guilty as anyone.

These two chapters aren't new to any of us but for some reason it just sank in a little deeper tonight for me.

Just my thoughts and how scripture has basically set me free from feeling guilty about the Sabbath day and how I can live with everyday being the Sabbath day for me.
 
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Love you brother and that's why I say with gentleness and respect that Jesus is our Sabbath. Don't get hung up on calendar issues.
 
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Utah said:
Love you brother and that's why I say with gentleness and respect that Jesus is our Sabbath. Don't get hung up on calendar issues.
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Believe me, not going to get hung up on days or hung up on threads that lead to this talk anymore.
 
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I don't understand.
 
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WarriorForChrist

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I don't understand.
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The sabbath threads others have started or the law threads :) Not going to engage in them anymore
 
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WarriorForChrist said:
I'm not trying to say I had a revelation or anything but God did show me something today. I have been really contemplating the last couple weeks about the Saturday Sabbath deal. I have always gone to church on Sundays and really never gave it much thought. Lately with all the Sabbath and Law threads got me to really search the scriptures. I have even started looking at church's in my area that might hold Saturday Sabbath.

Well today I spoke to a gentleman who was holding bible studies on Friday's. He specifically asked for only Saturday Sabbath keepers. Well we talked and he was trying to convince me that the Saturday Sabbath was the right one and how if we love God we would keep it. I listened to him patiently and told him I would consider what he said.

Well tonight when I got home my wife and I started reading the bible and God had me turn to Romans and specifically Romans 14 and 15. I'm not going to paste both chapters but it talks about how we shouldn't be critical of others for believing one way or the other. If someone wants to eat a certain way we shouldn't condemn them for it and vice versa. It also goes as far to say if what we eat causes another to stumble then we shouldn't eat in front of them.

Romans 14:5-9 really hit home. Basically says if someone says one day is more holy than another and others feel all days are alike who are we to criticize each other? Isn't this what we are all doing right now on this forum? We sit here and criticize each other for things that scripture says not to do. I am as guilty as anyone.

These two chapters aren't new to any of us but for some reason it just sank in a little deeper tonight for me.

Just my thoughts and how scripture has basically set me free from feeling guilty about the Sabbath day and how I can live with everyday being the Sabbath day for me.
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Hello WarriorForChrist,

You are correct in that, if someone wants to observe a day as special to the Lord, there nothing wrong with that. And other believers who believe every day to be alike should not be a stumbling stone to those who keep a specific day nor vice versa. However, it becomes a major problem when a person or group teaches the keeping of a specific day for the Sabbath as a requirement for salvation, which is the case with many. This then turns into adding to the finished work of Christ by ones own efforts. By doing so, they are basically saying that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient.
 
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I'm sorry I must disagree Tuesday is the holiest day,

so when you get a true revelation of that one come and talk to me then

Haha (just kidding wit chu) :p
 
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Hello WarriorForChrist,

You are correct in that, if someone wants to observe a day as special to the Lord, there nothing wrong with that. And other believers who believe every day to be alike should not be a stumbling stone to those who keep a specific day nor vice versa. However, it becomes a major problem when a person or group teaches the keeping of a specific day for the Sabbath as a requirement for salvation, which is the case with many. This then turns into adding to the finished work of Christ by ones own efforts. By doing so, they are basically saying that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient.
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Right, but most the time these types are looking for arguments. They have everything copy and pasted already in a word document or on the web. They are just waiting for someone to reply so they can lure them into their trap. I say let God deal with them and the rest just preach the Word of God. I think we just give in to these people too much and it takes this forums and others like it way off track.
 
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Praise God ....great to hear brother.....thanks for the post......so ill see ya Saturday......:cool:
 
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WarriorForChrist said:
I'm not trying to say I had a revelation or anything but God did show me something today. I have been really contemplating the last couple weeks about the Saturday Sabbath deal. I have always gone to church on Sundays and really never gave it much thought. Lately with all the Sabbath and Law threads got me to really search the scriptures. I have even started looking at church's in my area that might hold Saturday Sabbath.

Well today I spoke to a gentleman who was holding bible studies on Friday's. He specifically asked for only Saturday Sabbath keepers. Well we talked and he was trying to convince me that the Saturday Sabbath was the right one and how if we love God we would keep it. I listened to him patiently and told him I would consider what he said.

Well tonight when I got home my wife and I started reading the bible and God had me turn to Romans and specifically Romans 14 and 15. I'm not going to paste both chapters but it talks about how we shouldn't be critical of others for believing one way or the other. If someone wants to eat a certain way we shouldn't condemn them for it and vice versa. It also goes as far to say if what we eat causes another to stumble then we shouldn't eat in front of them.

Romans 14:5-9 really hit home. Basically says if someone says one day is more holy than another and others feel all days are alike who are we to criticize each other? Isn't this what we are all doing right now on this forum? We sit here and criticize each other for things that scripture says not to do. I am as guilty as anyone.

These two chapters aren't new to any of us but for some reason it just sank in a little deeper tonight for me.

Just my thoughts and how scripture has basically set me free from feeling guilty about the Sabbath day and how I can live with everyday being the Sabbath day for me.
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There is a problem when you establish doctrine based on an epistle alone. It is a letter, written to a person or group of people. You only see one side of the conversation. Romans 14:1-6, in my studied opinion, is reply to this question: Are there specific days which are best for fasting? (as Judaizers did teach this).
People may attack this response, but study it out for yourself.
If a comment made in an epistle seems to contradict dozens of other verses from Scripture, you will want to search it out.
I was at the same place you are at. I challenge you to search it out, compared to all of Scripture in context. Meet with the group a couple of times. Call it research. I think you are close to another revelation.
 
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PilgrimPassingThru said:
I'm sorry I must disagree Tuesday is the holiest day,

so when you get a true revelation of that one come and talk to me then

Haha (just kidding wit chu) :p
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Well, all I know for sure about one day being "Holier" than anudder is that Monday will never enter into the discussion! I'm pretty sure Monday is pagan.
 
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Very good thoughts WfC...........and my thoughts as well. Why don't folks concentrate on what unites us, rather than what may divide us?

Because that ain't nearly as much (FUN). Must be the reason, right? :)
 
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WarriorForChrist said:
I'm not trying to say I had a revelation or anything but God did show me something today. I have been really contemplating the last couple weeks about the Saturday Sabbath deal. I have always gone to church on Sundays and really never gave it much thought. Lately with all the Sabbath and Law threads got me to really search the scriptures. I have even started looking at church's in my area that might hold Saturday Sabbath.

Well today I spoke to a gentleman who was holding bible studies on Friday's. He specifically asked for only Saturday Sabbath keepers. Well we talked and he was trying to convince me that the Saturday Sabbath was the right one and how if we love God we would keep it. I listened to him patiently and told him I would consider what he said.

Well tonight when I got home my wife and I started reading the bible and God had me turn to Romans and specifically Romans 14 and 15. I'm not going to paste both chapters but it talks about how we shouldn't be critical of others for believing one way or the other. If someone wants to eat a certain way we shouldn't condemn them for it and vice versa. It also goes as far to say if what we eat causes another to stumble then we shouldn't eat in front of them.

Romans 14:5-9 really hit home. Basically says if someone says one day is more holy than another and others feel all days are alike who are we to criticize each other? Isn't this what we are all doing right now on this forum? We sit here and criticize each other for things that scripture says not to do. I am as guilty as anyone.

These two chapters aren't new to any of us but for some reason it just sank in a little deeper tonight for me.

Just my thoughts and how scripture has basically set me free from feeling guilty about the Sabbath day and how I can live with everyday being the Sabbath day for me.
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Wow!! It really is wonderful to hear the Spirit talking. Don't sell yourself short, when Jesus speaks to us we know it within ourselves and we can hold that no matter what, or who comes against us. Praise God!
 
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bikerchaz said:
Wow!! It really is wonderful to hear the Spirit talking. Don't sell yourself short, when Jesus speaks to us we know it within ourselves and we can hold that no matter what, or who comes against us. Praise God!
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You are correct, and I meant to comment on that. God "reveals" stuff to me all the time through His Holy Spirit who lives within me. Shoot! Every blood bought, born again, saved, sanctified, justified believer BETTER be able to say this, and believe this, or....................hmm
 
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WarriorForChrist said:
I'm not trying to say I had a revelation or anything but God did show me something today. I have been really contemplating the last couple weeks about the Saturday Sabbath deal. I have always gone to church on Sundays and really never gave it much thought. Lately with all the Sabbath and Law threads got me to really search the scriptures. I have even started looking at church's in my area that might hold Saturday Sabbath.

Well today I spoke to a gentleman who was holding bible studies on Friday's. He specifically asked for only Saturday Sabbath keepers. Well we talked and he was trying to convince me that the Saturday Sabbath was the right one and how if we love God we would keep it. I listened to him patiently and told him I would consider what he said.

Well tonight when I got home my wife and I started reading the bible and God had me turn to Romans and specifically Romans 14 and 15. I'm not going to paste both chapters but it talks about how we shouldn't be critical of others for believing one way or the other. If someone wants to eat a certain way we shouldn't condemn them for it and vice versa. It also goes as far to say if what we eat causes another to stumble then we shouldn't eat in front of them.

Romans 14:5-9 really hit home. Basically says if someone says one day is more holy than another and others feel all days are alike who are we to criticize each other? Isn't this what we are all doing right now on this forum? We sit here and criticize each other for things that scripture says not to do. I am as guilty as anyone.

These two chapters aren't new to any of us but for some reason it just sank in a little deeper tonight for me.

Just my thoughts and how scripture has basically set me free from feeling guilty about the Sabbath day and how I can live with everyday being the Sabbath day for me.
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Amen...well written and full of truth. When I see that there are 39 pages dealing with the "4th commandment" - there is something drastically wrong.
 
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Thank you for posting this and speaks volume about a few topics for sure. I'm going to do that as well on that topic and other topics in the BDF. I'll try and just Keep it simple and keep to the more cheerful threads. some people can deal with these debate issues and some people can't. I'm Surely not one who can, it does me no good nor any good for anybody else the endless debates. either I end up saying something that is rude to another or others something that's rude"a no win situation".
I've known of spiritual battles all my life as far back as I can remember. I have kept my spiritual eyes and ears wide open which has been a good thing but it's also been a bad thing keeping that open can lead to more attacks either personal or spiritual. Better for me to just ease the door shut and back away from it all and keep my heart peaceful at rest.

thanks again God Bless.
 
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Sabbath-keeping with all it's rules and regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel that is not applicable to Christians under the New Covenant. Even when Christians set out to worship on the Sabbath, they aren’t truly "keeping the Sabbath." To "keep the Sabbath" as it was required in the Old Testament would involve compliance with stringent regulations (Exodus 16:23; 35:3; Leviticus 23:32; Jeremiah 17:21) that were strictly enforced.

If Sabbath-day observances are still required, so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). These were commanded by God to the sons of Israel. If the seventh-day Sabbath is still in affect, then why do not the Sabbatarians seek to obey ALL that the LORD commanded? How can a person say he keeps a certain law when he keeps only part of it?

If the Sabbath-day laws were still in effect today, then according to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the Sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people. Who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Christian Church? The Seventh-day Adventist church? Or the State? Since we do not live under a theocratic state as ancient Israel did, no Sabbatarian can live consistently under the Mosaic regulations.

St. Paul said in Galatians 4:9-11: "...You observe days and months and seasons and years. I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain."

In Romans 14:1-23, the Apostle Paul says: "... One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind...(NASB)." In other words, for the Christian, the Apostle is saying that no day is to be regarded holier than another. Although the Torah was read every Saturday in the synagogues, the early Gentile Christians were never commanded to be circumcised, or to rest on Saturday as the Jews were (Acts 15:1-21).

In Colossians 2:16-17, the Apostle Paul also said 16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
 
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I don't want this thread to turn into a battle. This is something God was speaking to me. If others want to follow the Sabbath on Saturday then I say go for it. That is between them in the Lord and shouldn't bother me one bit
 
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WarriorForChrist said:
I don't want this thread to turn into a battle. This is something God was speaking to me. If others want to follow the Sabbath on Saturday then I say go for it. That is between them in the Lord and shouldn't bother me one bit
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Yes! Well put. I will not bind my silly beliefs (traditions) on them, and they shouldn't try to bind theirs on me.

We have freedom in Christ!

It distresses me, all the threads lately about keeping the Law, and 'how it said somewhere in the OT that we are to do such-and-such....' Those folks have apparently missed the whole boat about Jesus' sacrifice for us. It's depressing, in a way..
 
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