The most important doctrine
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Oh I was under the impression that prior to the 12 Nations being dispersed that those within the gates that were not of the Israelites where included in the Covenant. I did not see why I was not led to find the key if I was not intended to have it. What good would the key have been? My purpose for going into the chat room was to ask what should I do with it. I tried to explain it without showing it as it was not necessary to explain the concept but the moderator wanted everyone to be able to follow along.
The only reason these two tribes remained were for the sake of DAVID. The other 10 tribes were rent and scattered because of the sins of Solomon in his adopting the customs of his many different "heathen" wives
instead of them conforming to his father's house, he conformed to their many fathers houses
instead of them conforming to his father's house, he conformed to their many fathers houses
2Kings 17:21 For He tore Yisra’ĕl from the house of Dawiḏ, and they made Yaroḇ‛am son of Neḇat sovereign. And Yaroḇ‛am drove Yisra’ĕl from following יהוה, and made them commit a great sin.
2Kings 17:22 And the children of Yisra’ĕl walked in all the sins of Yaroḇ‛am which he did. They did not turn away from them,
2Kings 17:23 until יהוה removed Yisra’ĕl from His presence, as He spoke by all His servants the prophets. So Yisra’ĕl was exiled from their land to Ashshur, as it is to this day.
2Kings 17:22 And the children of Yisra’ĕl walked in all the sins of Yaroḇ‛am which he did. They did not turn away from them,
2Kings 17:23 until יהוה removed Yisra’ĕl from His presence, as He spoke by all His servants the prophets. So Yisra’ĕl was exiled from their land to Ashshur, as it is to this day.
What were the sins of Jeroboam?
They were removed out of their land. “For the children of Israel walked in
all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;
Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the
prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day”
(2 Kings 17:22-23).
21For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king:
and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the Lord, and made them sin a great sin.
For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did;
they departed not from them; 1 Kings 15:30 (KJV)
Because of the sins of Jeroboam which he sinned, and which he made Israel sin,
by his provocation wherewith he provoked the Lord God of Israel to anger.
1 Kings 14:16 (KJV)
And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin,
and who made Israel to sin.
They were removed out of their land. “For the children of Israel walked in
all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;
Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the
prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day”
(2 Kings 17:22-23).
21For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king:
and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the Lord, and made them sin a great sin.
For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did;
they departed not from them; 1 Kings 15:30 (KJV)
Because of the sins of Jeroboam which he sinned, and which he made Israel sin,
by his provocation wherewith he provoked the Lord God of Israel to anger.
1 Kings 14:16 (KJV)
And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin,
and who made Israel to sin.
actual there is 2 the bible mentions.
the Church is called “Jerusalem above,” or “the heavenly Jerusalem” (Heb. 12:22-23)
"the mother of us all"
-let me try and explain being begotten verses being born again.
God patterened it after human physical reproduction.
In human physical reproduction, there is a time element.
From impregnation—begettal on the part of the father—
having conceived on the part of the mother—to birth, or parturition,
or being delivered from the mother’s womb, is a time element of nine months.
That nine-month period is called gestation. Upon conception, the now fertilized ovum
is called an embryo. A few months later, it is called a fetus. But during this nine-month
period of gestation, we do not speak of the embryo-fetus as having been born.
It is in the process toward birth. It is the child of its parents. But it is then the unborn
child of its parents. The father has already begotten it—sired it.
But the mother has not yet given birth to it. Yet it is, during the gestation period,
the unborn child of its parents.
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so Now in being “born again,” the process of this birth begins [begotten] when
God’s divine spirit-life is imparted to us, we become heires to his kingdom.
When one, after repentance, faith and baptism, receives the Holy Spirit,
the Spirit of God puts him into—baptizes him into—God’s Church.
The Church is called the body of Christ. So we read: “y one Spirit are we
all baptized into one body …” (i-Cor. 12:13).
the Church is called “Jerusalem above,” or “the heavenly Jerusalem” (Heb. 12:22-23)
Galatians 4:26: “But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is [the mother of us all].”
The analogy is this: When begotten by God the Father by receiving His Holy Spirit,
we are put into the Church, which during this gestation period is our mother.
The human mother of the fetus within her womb serves the function of feeding her
unborn child with physical food, so that it may develop and grow physically.
And also she carries it where she may best protect it from physical injury or harm,
until parturition—delivery from her womb.
The spiritual mother—the Church—is commissioned to “feed the flock”
(iPet. 5:2) through the ministry which God has set in the Church
“for the perfecting of the saints … for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
unto a perfect man …” (Eph. 4:11-13).
Just as the human fetus develops and grows physically during the prebirth gestation
period, so we, after begettal by God’s Spirit, develop and grow spiritually in pre-birth state.
But not only is the Church to feed the members on the Word of God—spiritual food,
but also to protect these conceived but yet unborn children of God from spiritual harm.
“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with
every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive”
Then, at the time of the resurrection, we in the Church—the spiritual mother—
shall be delivered from her, and born into—brought forth into—the Kingdom—
the spirit-composed family of God.
the Church is called “Jerusalem above,” or “the heavenly Jerusalem” (Heb. 12:22-23)
"the mother of us all"
-let me try and explain being begotten verses being born again.
God patterened it after human physical reproduction.
In human physical reproduction, there is a time element.
From impregnation—begettal on the part of the father—
having conceived on the part of the mother—to birth, or parturition,
or being delivered from the mother’s womb, is a time element of nine months.
That nine-month period is called gestation. Upon conception, the now fertilized ovum
is called an embryo. A few months later, it is called a fetus. But during this nine-month
period of gestation, we do not speak of the embryo-fetus as having been born.
It is in the process toward birth. It is the child of its parents. But it is then the unborn
child of its parents. The father has already begotten it—sired it.
But the mother has not yet given birth to it. Yet it is, during the gestation period,
the unborn child of its parents.
-
so Now in being “born again,” the process of this birth begins [begotten] when
God’s divine spirit-life is imparted to us, we become heires to his kingdom.
When one, after repentance, faith and baptism, receives the Holy Spirit,
the Spirit of God puts him into—baptizes him into—God’s Church.
The Church is called the body of Christ. So we read: “y one Spirit are we
all baptized into one body …” (i-Cor. 12:13).
the Church is called “Jerusalem above,” or “the heavenly Jerusalem” (Heb. 12:22-23)
Galatians 4:26: “But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is [the mother of us all].”
The analogy is this: When begotten by God the Father by receiving His Holy Spirit,
we are put into the Church, which during this gestation period is our mother.
The human mother of the fetus within her womb serves the function of feeding her
unborn child with physical food, so that it may develop and grow physically.
And also she carries it where she may best protect it from physical injury or harm,
until parturition—delivery from her womb.
The spiritual mother—the Church—is commissioned to “feed the flock”
(iPet. 5:2) through the ministry which God has set in the Church
“for the perfecting of the saints … for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
unto a perfect man …” (Eph. 4:11-13).
Just as the human fetus develops and grows physically during the prebirth gestation
period, so we, after begettal by God’s Spirit, develop and grow spiritually in pre-birth state.
But not only is the Church to feed the members on the Word of God—spiritual food,
but also to protect these conceived but yet unborn children of God from spiritual harm.
“That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with
every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness,
whereby they lie in wait to deceive”
Then, at the time of the resurrection, we in the Church—the spiritual mother—
shall be delivered from her, and born into—brought forth into—the Kingdom—
the spirit-composed family of God.