The Thrill is Gone

[Dan_473]

Well, if you want to know the meaning of life, then ask Monty Python. It seems to me that to ask if "life" has a meaning is a category error. It's like asking what is the scent of anger. A statement has meaning (usually). By contrast, life as the phenomenon of the time from a thing's coming into being to its end does not and cannot have meaning.

Why are we here? Humans are the result of nature's undirected, indifferent, and unconscious evolutionary processes.

right, I know Monty's answer, I was asking you.

and yes, it's not a perfect question, but that's how it's often asked.



based on your answers so far on this thread, I assume you don't believe anything exists outside of the natural world.

so, do you believe humans have the ability to choose? For example, could you have written something different for post 43?

and if so, would the difference be anything more than the deterministic or random movement of particles?

 

[preacher4truth]

That's a tough question. As Pilate asked, "What is truth?" It appears that Jesus did not know the answer.

That would be an incorrect assumption on your part. Jesus had already stated to Pilate what truth is prior to Pilates dismissal 'What is truth?':

"You say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world—to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice."

You have the chronology wrong here and or present a misunderstanding on your part. Jesus is truth, He created all things; Colossians 1; John 1. As to the statement that you find all this foolishness, you're correct,in a sense: 1 Corinthians 1:18.

 

[UnknownSolidier]

So you're here to heal us by convincing us the Bible is wrong and we should leave Christianity?

To do so would be one of my reasons. I just want what's best for humanity. Believing the lies of the Bible is not what's best for us.

 

[dcontroversal]

To do so would be one of my reasons. I just want what's best for humanity. Believing the lies of the Bible is not what's best for us.

yeah pretty bad hey....a book that teaches to love and do right by your neighbor, be honest in business, don't murder or steal and or sleep with your neighbor's wife, to help the poor and the sick, to raise your children to be honest and productive citizens that obey the laws of the and etc.....

You know how stupid your comment is.......serious.....I guess you would rather have the exact opposite of the above?!

 

[Magenta]

There may be some wisdom and understanding in the Bible, but much of it is foolishness and obfuscation. Few if any Christians obey its dictates which is a tacit admission that it is best not to live up to its teachings.

You show your ignorance of what is actually taught in the Bible.

Tangible? Then let's all see it.

Personal empirical experiences being tangible does not mean they are transferrable.

So does heroine.

Do you mean heroin? You are terribly deceived to say such things.

You won't last long here. I shall say my goodbyes to you now

 

[preacher4truth]

Poor Christians, so dumb; started Hospitals, Universities, and the sciences, and, believed the Bible to such an extent that reading in Leviticus lead to quarantining the sick ending the plague. What a terrible travesty God's revelation has caused on this planet!

 

[Utah]

People don't really care about gods. What really matters is that they might live forever in a paradise. Some god or other is merely a means to an end.



When and where exactly did you pray away a storm? Pat Robertson believes he prayed away a hurricane.



Then why did you tell me?



You need to consider the words of your lord and savior:


Matthew 5:22

Like I said, Many Christians tacitly admit that the Bible's dictates are not to be obeyed when they disobey those commandments.

In April, 1991, I was in 29 Palms, CA. A three day sandstorm occurred with sustained winds of 90 mph. On the third day I asked God to stop the winds for just 15 minutes so I could have some peace, after which it didn't matter to me what transpired.

The winds stopped immediately after I finished praying, and I mean immediately, but the really astonishing aspect of it all was that the winds only stopped around me; everyone else continued to endure the winds. 15 minutes later the winds encompassed me again, but the storm abated a few hours later. I didn't stop the winds, God did, in Jesus' Name.

On another not, the Scripture you referenced pertains to people calling Jesus and His believers fools, not vice versa. Comparing God with heroin is foolish. I pray the scales are removed from your heart and mind.

 

[oldethennew]

almost all 'tragedy' starts in ignorance...

 

[Utah]

Handling poisonous snakes and drinking poison should be considered foolishness to anybody!

I don't partake, but many people do so according to the depth of their faith. My faith and spiritual gifts are focused elsewhere.

 

[Grandpa]

To where else would we go???

 

[Utah]

Well, if you want to know the meaning of life, then ask Monty Python. It seems to me that to ask if "life" has a meaning is a category error. It's like asking what is the scent of anger. A statement has meaning (usually). By contrast, life as the phenomenon of the time from a thing's coming into being to its end does not and cannot have meaning.

Why are we here? Humans are the result of nature's undirected, indifferent, and unconscious evolutionary processes.

Why would anything want to evolve into a worm?

 

[Utah]

Those who are sick are in need of a physician.

This is a good foundation. Let's begin our work, shall we?

 

[oldethennew]

we go 'up-ward', to our Saviour, one step, one day at a time, always away from our 'old-man' -
and putting on the 'new-man'...

 

[Utah]

So you're here to heal us by convincing us the Bible is wrong and we should leave Christianity?

I think he's admitting he's sick and in need of medicine.

 

[Magenta]

I don't partake, but many people do so according to the depth of their faith. My faith and spiritual gifts are focused elsewhere.

Some people think it is a mistake not to read everything in the Bible literally, but that is just foolishness when there are so many styles present in the writing from so many different people over quite a span of time. Even if something can be understood as being meant literally, there is often an underlying Spiritual truth evident as well. In the case of handling snakes and drinking poison, I have always also seen this as dealing with people who might be called snakes, and exposing yourself to/ingesting what such a deceiving trickster night say, as being likened to drinking poison. For instance, as a fairly new Christian I started witnessing to atheists online. It was a bit of a shock to see how many people allowed atheists to chip away at and destroy their faith. That almost always seems to be the endgame of atheists who wish to engage Christians, regardless of how harmlessly they wish to portray themselves. That is why they cannot last on a site such as this. Eventually their total disdain of religion in general and the faith of Christians in particular will disgust them, and they will not be able to hide their true intentions. UnknownSoldier is already breaking the rules he agreed to in order to post here.

 

[JesusRules1]

To do so would be one of my reasons. I just want what's best for humanity. Believing the lies of the Bible is not what's best for us.

The truth is if everybody followed the teachings of Jesus there would not be fighting on earth,not even in the least sense,and all the poor would be fed and clothed,and all would prosper.

The Bible says when the world says Peace and safety,then sudden destruction comes upon them as a woman in travail with child,and they shall not escape.

Why,because they are doing what you think is best for the world,do not listen to the lies of Bible(which are not lies,and they have their own lying interpretation of it),which will be the time they will not listen to the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,and they will cut God out of the picture,and the world will be more chaotic than it has been ever in the history of mankind,where nuclear weapons will fly,the 6th trumpet,and causes one third of the world to perish,and all the other destruction they shall cause,which the last king by peace shall destroy many,and if Jesus did not shorten the days he is going on a rampage going against all who oppose his kingdom,and also to the hurt of those that fight for him,that no flesh would be saved.

That is what happens when there is no influence of the truth of the Bible in the world,it will be way worse,way worse,which shall be demonstrated shortly in the future,as they drift away from the Bible,and cut God out of the picture,although you cannot cut God out of the picture,but God is going to give them their way for it is the time for God to end this sin business,so He is going to allow all who do not love Him to rebel against Him,for He will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him.

The truth is if everybody followed the teachings of Jesus there would not be fighting on earth,not even in the least sense,and all the poor would be fed and clothed,and all would prosper,but you cannot get that from the world,for they are greedy for money,which God said the last generation will devour the poor from off the earth,and the needy from among men,and there is 8 people on this planet that have as much money as half of the lower half of the whole population of the earth,for that is the world arrogant,and self exalting.

Stop following the teachings of the Bible and all hell will break loose,and that is what they are going to do,and deny the truth of the Bible and all hell will break loose,and that is what they are going to do,and then see how people like the world.

 

[Utah]

To do so would be one of my reasons. I just want what's best for humanity. Believing the lies of the Bible is not what's best for us.

I'm sure you're devoted to spending equal time and footing on Muslim chat sites telling them God does not exist. Right? Right.

 

[Magenta]

Jesus said He did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

 

[jerry2465]

I'm sure you're devoted to spending equal time and footing on Muslim chat sites telling them God does not exist. Right? Right.

he is the one who is running out of time (in his mind), if i were him I wouldn't be trying to argue any point with anyone, it would all be a waste of time, since he will vanish soon at the end of his life.

 

[Utah]

Some people think it is a mistake not to read everything in the Bible literally, but that is just foolishness when there are so many styles present in the writing from so many different people over quite a span of time. Even if something can be understood as being meant literally, there is often an underlying Spiritual truth evident as well. In the case of handling snakes and drinking poison, I have always also seen this as dealing with people who might be called snakes, and exposing yourself to/ingesting what such a deceiving trickster night say, as being likened to drinking poison. For instance, as a fairly new Christian I started witnessing to atheists online. It was a bit of a shock to see how many people allowed atheists to chip away at and destroy their faith. That almost always seems to be the endgame of atheists who wish to engage Christians, regardless of how harmlessly they wish to portray themselves. That is why they cannot last on a site such as this. Eventually their total disdain of religion in general and the faith of Christians in particular will disgust them, and they will not be able to hide their true intentions. UnknownSoldier is already breaking the rules he agreed to in order to post here.

Misery loves company, my dear sister; that's why atheists come here.