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Psalms 18:11 (KJV)
He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him
were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
[h=3]John 1:3 (KJV)[/h]
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
J
Prove, and all you others. I was away today. I will be submitting my hypothesis soon. The question here is simple. Consider the word create. Picasso creates a painting. We agree that this is creation-creator. However Picasso also "throws" a shadow. Has he created a shadow? If so then this could get complicated indeed.
[h=3]James 1:17 (KJV)[/h]
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father oflights,
with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
[h=3]Isaiah 49:2 (KJV)[/h]
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;
Gods hand can make a shadow
and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;
Gods hand can make a shadow
J
Ok, the two hints were
a) Genesis 1:31 Genesis says that all god made was good, very good. Can we agree here?
b) chapter 6 of 1 Timothy.
Genesis says that all god made was good, very good. Can we agree here?
I'll toss in one more hint. c) "God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." (1 John 1:5)
It's 1 am here in hooterville, I will be around, With these three hints, I have reason to believe you can build the answer.
Nope, it's not enough! Here's a forth hint:
d) Templetion.
a) Genesis 1:31 Genesis says that all god made was good, very good. Can we agree here?
b) chapter 6 of 1 Timothy.
Genesis says that all god made was good, very good. Can we agree here?
I'll toss in one more hint. c) "God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." (1 John 1:5)
It's 1 am here in hooterville, I will be around, With these three hints, I have reason to believe you can build the answer.
Nope, it's not enough! Here's a forth hint:
d) Templetion.
...It's about evil, which really isn't a place. God allowed this, it is the absence of Him and His goodness. Nothing takes place without His knowledge or permission. Before anyone freaks out, I didn't say God 'authored' evil. If you can't handle the meat of the Word, then just keep growing and studying. 
Note Isaiah 45:7, and this;
I make peace, and create evil; peace between God and men is made by Christ, who is God over all; spiritual peace of conscience comes from God, through Christ, by the Spirit; eternal glory and happiness is of God, which saints enter into at death; peace among the saints themselves here, and with the men of the world; peace in churches, and in the world, God is the author of, even of all prosperity of every kind, which this word includes: "evil" is also from him; not the evil of sin; this is not to be found among the creatures God made; this is of men, though suffered by the Lord, and overruled by him for good: but the evil of punishment for sin, God's sore judgments, famine, pestilence, evil beasts, and the sword, or war, which latter may more especially be intended, as it is opposed to peace; this usually is the effect of sin; may be sometimes lawfully engaged in; whether on a good or bad foundation is permitted by God; moreover, all afflictions, adversities, and calamities, come under this name, and are of God; see Job_2:10, - John Gill
Note Isaiah 45:7, and this;
I make peace, and create evil; peace between God and men is made by Christ, who is God over all; spiritual peace of conscience comes from God, through Christ, by the Spirit; eternal glory and happiness is of God, which saints enter into at death; peace among the saints themselves here, and with the men of the world; peace in churches, and in the world, God is the author of, even of all prosperity of every kind, which this word includes: "evil" is also from him; not the evil of sin; this is not to be found among the creatures God made; this is of men, though suffered by the Lord, and overruled by him for good: but the evil of punishment for sin, God's sore judgments, famine, pestilence, evil beasts, and the sword, or war, which latter may more especially be intended, as it is opposed to peace; this usually is the effect of sin; may be sometimes lawfully engaged in; whether on a good or bad foundation is permitted by God; moreover, all afflictions, adversities, and calamities, come under this name, and are of God; see Job_2:10, - John Gill
B
...It's about evil, which really isn't a place. God allowed this, it is the absence of Him and His goodness. Nothing takes place without His knowledge or permission. Before anyone freaks out, I didn't say God 'authored' evil. If you can't handle the meat of the Word, then just keep growing and studying.
Note Isaiah 45:7, and this;
I make peace, and create evil; peace between God and men is made by Christ, who is God over all; spiritual peace of conscience comes from God, through Christ, by the Spirit; eternal glory and happiness is of God, which saints enter into at death; peace among the saints themselves here, and with the men of the world; peace in churches, and in the world, God is the author of, even of all prosperity of every kind, which this word includes: "evil" is also from him; not the evil of sin; this is not to be found among the creatures God made; this is of men, though suffered by the Lord, and overruled by him for good: but the evil of punishment for sin, God's sore judgments, famine, pestilence, evil beasts, and the sword, or war, which latter may more especially be intended, as it is opposed to peace; this usually is the effect of sin; may be sometimes lawfully engaged in; whether on a good or bad foundation is permitted by God; moreover, all afflictions, adversities, and calamities, come under this name, and are of God; see Job_2:10, - John Gill
Note Isaiah 45:7, and this;
I make peace, and create evil; peace between God and men is made by Christ, who is God over all; spiritual peace of conscience comes from God, through Christ, by the Spirit; eternal glory and happiness is of God, which saints enter into at death; peace among the saints themselves here, and with the men of the world; peace in churches, and in the world, God is the author of, even of all prosperity of every kind, which this word includes: "evil" is also from him; not the evil of sin; this is not to be found among the creatures God made; this is of men, though suffered by the Lord, and overruled by him for good: but the evil of punishment for sin, God's sore judgments, famine, pestilence, evil beasts, and the sword, or war, which latter may more especially be intended, as it is opposed to peace; this usually is the effect of sin; may be sometimes lawfully engaged in; whether on a good or bad foundation is permitted by God; moreover, all afflictions, adversities, and calamities, come under this name, and are of God; see Job_2:10, - John Gill
Jonteel, I have noticed that about darkness.
There are also two other places where it does not say: and He saw that it was good. They have to do with separations.
It's as if the very creating of two distinct places, heaven and earth, was not good to Him either.
He doesn't like separations.
And when it says what He called the darkness and the light, I did a word study on the two words, because I was confused at how there was darkness and light days before the sun and moon were created. My word study gave me this sense: And the darkness He called: a twisting away from the light. And the light He called: wonderful, glorious.
There are also two other places where it does not say: and He saw that it was good. They have to do with separations.
It's as if the very creating of two distinct places, heaven and earth, was not good to Him either.
He doesn't like separations.
And when it says what He called the darkness and the light, I did a word study on the two words, because I was confused at how there was darkness and light days before the sun and moon were created. My word study gave me this sense: And the darkness He called: a twisting away from the light. And the light He called: wonderful, glorious.
When the Bible says that God creates this means that he makes something out of nothing.
This is very different than Picasso painting - he needs something to paint on and something to paint with - he does not "create" - he paints!
Yes, you can use "create" to explain Pisacco painting, but this does not equal the idea of God "creating" all things.
This is very different than Picasso painting - he needs something to paint on and something to paint with - he does not "create" - he paints!
Yes, you can use "create" to explain Pisacco painting, but this does not equal the idea of God "creating" all things.
I suppose some have been granted license not only to redefine the definition of the Greek word hamartia, but also to change it to 'amartais'.
There are no holds barred on any person who feels they have such license. Dangerous ground my friends.
There are no holds barred on any person who feels they have such license. Dangerous ground my friends.
"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?" - Psalm 11:3