The False Science of the Evolution Theory

[Dino246]

Like Jesus said, if you can believe then all things are possible to him that believes.


Controversial T. Rex Soft Tissue Find Finally Explained

Controversial T. Rex Soft Tissue Find Finally Explained

Scientists retrieve 80-million-year-old dinosaur protein in ‘milestone’ paper

Scientists retrieve 80-million-year-old dinosaur protein in ‘milestone’ paper | Science | AAAS

What the first link gives is an explanation as to how the preservation of tissues "could have" happened. This is not proof, and certainly does not validate millions of years against thousands. "Could have" theories are common the "science" which supports evolution.

A factor which many people overlook is that experimental science cannot address origins, simply because origins are outside the realm of the repeatable. Experimental science deals with what is testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. Forensic science can address origins in a theoretical sense only, but many people don't understand the distinction between the two areas.

 

[followjesus]

I look at things in multiple ways, was it billions, was it a week or was it in one single breath surely not in breaths!
A million years is like a minute and a minute is like a millions years.

Psalm 33:6
By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth.

amen for certain we Know "God said let there be....and things became"

i believe He is beyond our ability to comprehend fully until we see Jesus. if you think of His miracles, He did things that science and rationality says cant happen through Just a word and sometimes a touch. a withered hand restored, an issue of internal bleeding through touching His garment, even the centurion who displayed great faith. Jesus simply said " your servant will live". A dead girl who heard His voice, raised to life, a dead man entombed heard "lazarus come out" and there He came alive and well.....We definately Have an AWESOME GOD !!!

God bless you bro

 

[BeyondET]

amen for certain we Know "God said let there be....and things became"

i believe He is beyond our ability to comprehend fully until we see Jesus. if you think of His miracles, He did things that science and rationality says cant happen through Just a word and sometimes a touch. a withered hand restored, an issue of internal bleeding through touching His garment, even the centurion who displayed great faith. Jesus simply said " your servant will live". A dead girl who heard His voice, raised to life, a dead man entombed heard "lazarus come out" and there He came alive and well.....We definately Have an AWESOME GOD !!!

God bless you bro

No doubt indeed there is iron in your words. it is these accounts that insures me that learning more of creation and the like isn't out of his hand to do. I think one of the greatest example of this (out of the bible thinking) is the planet Mars, this was never mentioned in scripture yet anybody on this planet can view it sometimes clearly with the naked eye at certain time intervals the closest being not that long ago but that incounter only happens once in about 75 years. Though surely anybody can buy a good telescope and look at that planet on any clear night of the year, it helps if one is farther away from city lights that can obscure the view.

 

[followjesus]

No doubt indeed there is iron in your words. it is these accounts that insures me that learning more of creation and the like isn't out of his hand to do. I think one of the greatest example of this (out of the bible thinking) is the planet Mars, this was never mentioned in scripture yet anybody on this planet can view it sometimes clearly with the naked eye at certain time intervals the closest being not that long ago but that incounter only happens once in about 75 years. Though surely anybody can buy a good telescope and look at that planet on any clear night of the year, it helps if one is farther away from city lights that can obscure the view.

I 100 percent Get that comment, I know whatever exists Was Made by the Lord and theres a big universe out there that isnt explained. In My own thinking God is Holding it in the palm of His hand and Has filled it up with Jesus because He is that Big and that Much !

 

[BeyondET]

I 100 percent Get that comment, I know whatever exists Was Made by the Lord and theres a big universe out there that isnt explained. In My own thinking God is Holding it in the palm of His hand and Has filled it up with Jesus because He is that Big and that Much !

Excellent thought brother.

IMO to even holding everything with only the power of His breath.

 

[followjesus]

Excellent thought brother.

IMO to even holding everything with only the power of His breath.

amen !

and we look Jesus and the promises He made by that breath Of Life in Him.

 

[HQ]

How will you decide if any change is either improvement or not? You cannot know. Is smaller an improvement? Or is it when its bigger? Faster? Slower? More weight? Less weight?

Improvement is just a human point of view. Depends on circumstances.

We don't decide. Nature just takes it's course and the species in question either adapts to changing conditions or dies. But adaptation isn't the same as evolution (which I don't buy into). God created a genetic blueprint (DNA) for every critter that ever existed, BEFORE He created them. It's no different from a car manufacturer drawing up plans for a new car BEFORE trying to build one. It takes forethought and planning, as opposed to nature's "trial and error" over millions of years. And it begs the question: who or what is evaluating the trials?

 

[trofimus]

We don't decide. Nature just takes it's course and the species in question either adapts to changing conditions or dies. But adaptation isn't the same as evolution (which I don't buy into). God created a genetic blueprint (DNA) for every critter that ever existed, BEFORE He created them. It's no different from a car manufacturer drawing up plans for a new car BEFORE trying to build one. It takes forethought and planning, as opposed to nature's "trial and error" over millions of years. And it begs the question: who or what is evaluating the trials?

It seems to me that you argue against atheistic evolution - evolution by chance.

Theistic evolution, of course, accepts the plan of God before the foundation of the universe and actions under His control leading to the desired state of everything. We are also only seeds, developing to what we will become in the next world.

 

[dcontroversal]

A question primarily for Trofimus, but for anyone who holds to long ages:

How do you account for soft tissue, blood cells, and DNA being found in dinosaur bones, when scientific experiments confirm that these things could not last millions of years?

My personal view is that they were wiped out in the flood........

 

[Embankment]

amen for certain we Know "God said let there be....and things became"

i believe He is beyond our ability to comprehend fully until we see Jesus. if you think of His miracles, He did things that science and rationality says cant happen through Just a word and sometimes a touch. a withered hand restored, an issue of internal bleeding through touching His garment, even the centurion who displayed great faith. Jesus simply said " your servant will live". A dead girl who heard His voice, raised to life, a dead man entombed heard "lazarus come out" and there He came alive and well.....We definately Have an AWESOME GOD !!!

God bless you bro

First off I don't believe there is this conspiracy by scientists to debunk the Bible.
A scientists job is to interpret what they see. There is no proof that soft tissue can't exist millions of years. Science just has not found proof until these recent finds.
I believe Christianity has a bigger problem. There certainly are young earth creationists with their agenda to make it us vs. them, an all or nothing battle. I have read their literature and when it says things like believe what we believe or through out all scripture ,that is a cult. These young earth organizations take great liberty with scripture to make their point and use science when it fits their agenda. They toss out scripture and science when it doesn't. I am all about Jesus but I can't go along with twisting things all around to prove a questionable agenda. There are so many things about being a Christian that are more important than being right about how is the earth is.

 

[trofimus]

First off I don't believe there is this conspiracy by scientists to debunk the Bible.
A scientists job is to interpret what they see. There is no proof that soft tissue can't exist millions of years. Science just has not found proof until these recent finds.
I believe Christianity has a bigger problem. There certainly are young earth creationists with their agenda to make it us vs. them, an all or nothing battle. I have read their literature and when it says things like believe what we believe or through out all scripture ,that is a cult. These young earth organizations take great liberty with scripture to make their point and use science when it fits their agenda. They toss out scripture and science when it doesn't. I am all about Jesus but I can't go along with twisting things all around to prove a questionable agenda. There are so many things about being a Christian that are more important than being right about how is the earth is.

Exactly my experience, too.

I was YEC for quite a long time, the mixture of conspiration (NASA, scientists, governments etc), isolated interpretation of facts (not working in the larger picture) and specialized view of the Bible, propagated as "the real Christian faith".

There is actually no difference between the YEC and flath earth proponents. Both camps have their "proofs", their "working theories" and a literal view of the Bible. Not working in reality? Nevermind, it must be truth, because Bible (their view of how to read the Bible) etc.

 

[Zmouth]

What the first link gives is an explanation as to how the preservation of tissues "could have" happened. This is not proof, and certainly does not validate millions of years against thousands. "Could have" theories are common the "science" which supports evolution.

That is the beauty of new age science, it's faith based. Since the LORD has said to believe all things then blessed are those who hear the truth and keep it. We have faith in the theories we profess to have hope in the substance of things we speak because we speak of that which we actually know and that which we have actually seen.

A factor which many people overlook is that experimental science cannot address origins, simply because origins are outside the realm of the repeatable. Experimental science deals with what is testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. Forensic science can address origins in a theoretical sense only, but many people don't understand the distinction between the two areas.

Lost me with when you went beyond the realm of the repeatable since the scientific method allows one to determine the validity of claims based upon principles which can affirm or disprove the facts upon which the claim is made.

All sciences deal with what is testable, repeatable and falsifiable, since every discipline of science has for a foundation of its system, a set of principles as fixed and unalterable as those that govern and regulate the universe.

Since man can not make principles, then he can only discover them if the are given unto him since no man can know them having not learned. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in making and believing a lie.

Thus, the fact that a contrary hypothesis is disproven isn't proof that the hypothesis that one believes is true.

 

[HQ]

It seems to me that you argue against atheistic evolution - evolution by chance.

Theistic evolution, of course, accepts the plan of God before the foundation of the universe and actions under His control leading to the desired state of everything. We are also only seeds, developing to what we will become in the next world.

No I don't buy into it. To do so is to suggest that God is some kind of a fumbling deity that just can't seem to get it right. I believe he drew up the blueprint for life on earth and then started construction. I can buy into your seed analogy to some extent but from my perspective that it's a spiritual transformation, not a physical one. Perhaps that's what you meant.

 

[Zmouth]

First off I don't believe there is this conspiracy by scientists to debunk the Bible.

Since you profess that you do not believe that there is a conspiracy by scientist to debunk the Bible teachings on faith then by your own admission you are attempting to prove that man can come to the knowledge of the truth without having faith since you think you can without works.

A scientists job is to interpret what they see. There is no proof that soft tissue can't exist millions of years.

So if a scientist job is to interpret what they see then why is it that every scie
ntist has to be taught how to read and write, thus if every scientist had to be taught how to read and write then maybe they should stick with the known and observed universe instead of the imaginary universe they are fabricating.

I believe Christianity has a bigger problem.

I AM not the problem, I AM the solution.

 

[vincejohnson]

Wherever we humans have evolved from, we all have one thing in common, it is the same in plants, bacteria, Amoebae, insects, birds, fish and humans have & that is DNA.

The origin of DNA is the origin of life.

 

[LightShinesInTheDarkness]

Here's a simple way to look at it:

If you're born again, you know that God is real and that He is the God of the Bible, because He saved you and He lives in you, just like the Bible says He will do to those who receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior. So the Bible is right, because what it says God does, He did to you.

And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. (1 John 3:24)

By this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. (1 John 4:13)

Whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. (1 John 5:10)

The God of the Bible, who saved you and who lives in you, does not and cannot lie. (Titus 1:2)

So, if science says A but the Bible teaches B, believe the Bible, no matter how much supposed "evidence" there is to the contrary.

Don't make the mistake of believing the Bible because science has proven something that the Bible says is true to be true;
the Bible is true regardless of whether science "proves" what it says is true or not, because God says that it is so.

Trust God.

I believe the Bible because I know and believe God and I know He doesn't lie. Even if science "proves" that what the Bible says happened didn't happen, I still believe it. God is more reliable than science.

By faith (not science) we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible. (Hebrews 11:3)

So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. (Genesis 1:27)

The science that contradicts the Bible is wrong, and will ultimately be proven so, if it isn't already obviously false.

God created the laws of the universe.

God created the mind of man which studies the laws of His universe.

God is greater than both and limited by neither.

If evolution is true (which it isn't of course), the Scriptures make no sense, the gospel message is invalidated and Jesus died for nothing.

(Of course Satan knows this. The theory of evolution is a demonic lie intended to undermine the credibility of God's word and prevent people from coming to Him to be saved.)

Never forget that the whole world lies under the power of the evil one, the father of lies---including scientists, who are human first and foremost, and subject to the same things God's word says all human beings are subject to, including being unable to see the truth that is right in front of their eyes unless He reveals it to them.

For it is written "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart."
(1 Corinthians 1:19)