The False Science of the Evolution Theory

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chickenkiller

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CLee622

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Trofimus I don't understand how a trilobite reveals anything .... feathers are far too complex in design and placement to have ever somehow formed on a creature to allow flight (all the parts of living animals must be in tact - properly -in order for them to survive) I did take a look at that whale - land animal claim. Looks like a crocodile my friend... what's the croc evolving into?? Hippo? Seal? They all live in land and sea. That creature was designed that way and got along fine while he was on the planet.

Whats funny is instead of the evolutionary site saying whales came on land- it said the whales came from 4 legged land animal. Which is it guys? HA!

I guess you somehow explain away Moses' account in Genesis to make it match up with these new teachings of men?
 

trofimus

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No. No they cannot be solved with google and that's why I wrote the blog in the first place.

No no you won't change my stance not really trying to change anyone's myself just chat and - I hope you're born again more than I hope you toss the evolution hoax ;)
I knew that :) So your blog begins with "fun" (i.e. wrong description of evolution theory) and ends with a challenge you did not mean seriously. So why should anybody bother with the rest? :)

Its clear you dont mean your words seriously enough.
 

trofimus

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Trofimus I don't understand how a trilobite reveals anything .... feathers are far too complex in design and placement to have ever somehow formed on a creature to allow flight (all the parts of living animals must be in tact - properly -in order for them to survive) I did take a look at that whale - land animal claim. Looks like a crocodile my friend... what's the croc evolving into?? Hippo? Seal? They all live in land and sea. That creature was designed that way and got along fine while he was on the planet.

Whats funny is instead of the evolutionary site saying whales came on land- it said the whales came from 4 legged land animal. Which is it guys? HA!

I guess you somehow explain away Moses' account in Genesis to make it match up with these new teachings of men?
Whales came from 4 legs animal, the evolution of whales is very well documented by many transitional fossils.
 

prove-all

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but said to earth and waters to do it, i.e. by natural laws.
no you should read post 47.
God made the seeds after there kind, God made animals after there kind,

God even made man after there own kind, the God kind.
If you do not believe Gods word, that is up to you.
 
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trofimus

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no you should read post 47.
God made the seeds after there kind, God made animals after there kind,

God even made man after there own kind, the God kind.
If you do not believe Gods word, that is up to you.
Now you are getting to the point.

1. Earth/waters did it
and
2. God did it.

So - not only nature, not only God, but both God and nature --> theistic (God) evolution (nature).
 
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No i have never left the country but ill google that. Lots of nice caves in your area! Onondaga is one of my favs. Fisher at Meramec SP is awesome too.
Hey Chicken...I said...EVEN been in a cave in Australia......as I have been....about a year and a half ago on my 5th trip to Australia....

Where you live....I took a 2 AM tour of Onondaga and went places that the public cannot go when a good friend was the tour guide in the 80's and my brother worked for the Missouri Conservation Department and gave tours of Fisher cave....have you been in ONYX cave at the end of the road that goes to the horse trails in Meramec State Park of Meramec Caverns in Stanton...I live in Mark Twain like 20 min from Meramec State Park......
 

prove-all

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Now you are getting to the point.

1. Earth/waters did it

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I like to do gardening, I have a very green thump people would say.


earth [dirt] , water, sunlite

you can have all these, but you still need a seed for something to grow.
the earth did not make the seeds , God put them there to grow.


Mother nature is something I do not believe in.
 
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trofimus

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I like to do gardening, I have a very green thump people would say.


earth [dirt] , water, sunlite

you can have all these, but you still need a seed for something to grow.
the earth did not make the seeds , God put them there to grow.


Mother nature is something I do not believe in.
Actually, I am pretty sure God did not put anything into your garden, but all seed you have there are evolved from something else, some by people, some by nature itself. Because it did not exist in the time of dinosaurs, for example.

We just need to think a little.

Or, if you wish, whole universe was in a seed in the Big Bang, evolving by the guidance of God to what we have today. But you did not mean it this way, I suppose. You just think that everything was created as it is today.
 
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CLee622

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I wasn't writing an article for the times I was enjoying my blog - "mean" my words "seriously" enough?

Anywho I knew this thread was a rabbit trail - I sincerely hope you're surrendered to Christ. Xox.
 

prove-all

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Whales came from 4 legs animal,
the evolution of whales is very well documented by many transitional fossils.
can you provide links to well documented many transitional fossils ?

What Is Evolution?

Evolution is the belief that life spontaneously erupted from non-living chemicals
—all life today coming from that eruption. It includes the idea that all creatures
alive today have, after many varied steps, come into existence from some previously
existing creatures.


For example, it is claimed that a fish in the past began changing, then, o
ver millions of years and many intermediate steps, became a mammal of today.

Evolution supporters suggest that fish somehow became amphibians and amphibians
somehow became mammals. This process is supposed to have taken many millions
of years, involving millions of intermediate steps to achieve.



Do not confuse the theory of evolution with adaptation of a species or genetic variation.
Adaptation simply means that something changes to fit its environment, not that it changes
into some other species. Genetic variation occurs when there are limiting factors in the
available gene pool. But again, it does not produce some new species—only changes
within the same species.


This can be seen in the different breeds of animals such as horses. Draft horses have been
bred to produce size and power; miniature horses for smallness and quarter horses for
quickness. No one denies that they have common ancestors, but no one suggests they are
no longer horses either. These differences do not represent evolution. Horses are still horses.

The evolutionist suggests that perhaps walruses changed into horses, or the other way around.


Falsifying the Truth

It would be assumed that the facts could be found in science books, magazines and articles.
That assumption would be wrong. Certainly some facts may be discovered in the scientific
literature, but the authors of such works seem bent on promulgating false and misleading
information about evolution


like Spontaneous Generation

The idea that life sprang forth from some primordial ooze is at the foundation of the
evolutionary concept—that is what evolutionists claim caused life on Earth to begin.
However, the idea of spontaneous generation was disproved centuries ago.
 
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prove-all

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Heb 12:25-27
25 See that ye refuse not Him That speaketh. For if they escaped not who
refused Him That spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn
away from Him That speaketh from heaven:


26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now He hath promised, saying,
"Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."

27 And this word, 'Yet once more', signifieth the removing of those things
that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot
be shaken may remain.


That Hebrews 12 Scripture is declaring that God once more will shake
not the earth only,but also heaven. That description comes from Scripture
like Isaiah 2, Isaiah 13, and Haggai 2 about the future when God will cause
this earth to tremble in removing the 'elements' of man's works off it (2 Pet.3:10).

Why the phrase "once more" though, which points to at least one previous time
that He shook the earth to that level?


For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be
compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us …”

“For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God;
for the creation [all the suns, planets, stars, moons] was subjected to futility,
not of its own will but by the will of him who subjected it in hope;because the creation itself
will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God.

We know that the whole creation [stars, suns and moons now in decay and futility]
has been groaning in travail together until now; and not only the creation but we ourselves
[we Spirit-begotten humans], who have the first fruits of the Spirit [the “firstfruits”]
groan inwardly as we wait for the [birth] as sons”.

At His return to Earth in power and glory those who have been converted and received
God’s Holy Spirit shall be born into the God Family by a resurrection.

Why should the whole universe—the creation—be waiting with eager longing
for the actual birth and appearing of all these sons of God, to be born ?

“Because the creation itself [the universe not now capable of sustaining life] will be
set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty

“For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed
the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it
to be inhabited:I am the Lord; and there is none else.”

God says that the universe—not just the Earth—was designed to be inhabited.
It wasn’t created in vain, to be simply an ornament. It was created for a purpose.

Isaiah 66:8
Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things?
Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day?

or shall [a nation be born at once]
 
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trofimus

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can you provide links to well documented many transitional fossils ?
Sure, you go to google.com and then input: evolution of whales transitional fossils.

And voilà! There it is :)
 

trofimus

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So, do you have it in your hand or not? I do :)

[video=youtube;rFxu7NEoKC8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxu7NEoKC8[/video]
 
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Hmm like every piece of hair on ones head He knows and every atom matter He designed it's journey as well.
 

Enow

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I wasn't writing an article for the times I was enjoying my blog - "mean" my words "seriously" enough?

Anywho I knew this thread was a rabbit trail - I sincerely hope you're surrendered to Christ. Xox.
Usually believers that chase after the fairy tale spinning of the evolution theory are going down the rabbit hole.

Thanks for participating. Pray for them that God will expose it for the false science that it is as His words never changes but the evolution theory does... like the wind.
 

Zmouth

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I like to do gardening, I have a very green thump people would say.

earth [dirt] , water, sunlite

you can have all these, but you still need a seed for something to grow.
the earth did not make the seeds , God put them there to grow.

Mother nature is something I do not believe in.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:11-12
 

Zmouth

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Pray for them that God will expose it for the false science that it is as His words never changes but the evolution theory does... like the wind.
Speaking of the wind, doesn't the term 'spirit' originate from the Hebrew having the meaning of 'wind' ?

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Genesis 1:2

OT:7307 ruwach (roo'-akh);
from OT:7306; wind; by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible (or even violent) exhalation;



So let's see, what does the term 'wind' mean. [See- John 3:8]

The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

NT:4151 pneuma (pnyoo'-mah); from NT:4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze;


So of course the question you were expecting, do you really think you can hear the wind?
 
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Dino246

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A question primarily for Trofimus, but for anyone who holds to long ages:

How do you account for soft tissue, blood cells, and DNA being found in dinosaur bones, when scientific experiments confirm that these things could not last millions of years?