Is smoking marijuana okay with God?

[Ahwatukee]

So, technically when I go to the doctors and they prescribe me something am I participating in witch craft?

Read post #60. You know the difference between taking prescribed drugs for healing opposed to recreational use to alter your being. I don't have to explain that.

I just pointed out the Greek word pharmakia, translated as witchcraft, sorcery and magic arts. Whatever you do with the information is up to you.

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

Greetings PerfectlyImperfect,

Something that many are not aware of is that, drugs are considered as sorcery, magic arts and that because drugs were/are used in relation to cast spells or enchantments. Today we have people using drugs for recreational purposes, but unbeknownst to them, the are engaging in sorcery.

The word "pharmakia," which is where we get our English word pharmaceutical from is translated in scripture as sorcery, magic art or witchcraft. Below is the definition of the word that is used:

pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spellsOriginal Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Short Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment
Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment.

HELPS Word-studies
5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc.

"The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk. Furthermore, they did not repent of their murder, sorcery, sexual immorality, and theft.

Are you familiar with the Cannabinoid receptors built into the body?

"Cannabinoid receptors are activated by cannabinoids, generated naturally inside the body"
Source

If what you were insinuating about pot/cannabis being a drug that= sorcery is correct, then every human being and some animals have sorcery built into them by God because we naturally produce it in our bodies.

 

[Blain]

Okay now that you've explained I understand, but it's a struggle for me to stay clean because I work with a cancer patient who smokes marijuana in order to eat, after chemo. So, personally I came here seeking words of encouragement, and I've been learning Gods word encourages me the most. So for me it wasn't hypothetical it was an actual question, statement, what have you...

You know I live in a house where everyone cusses constantly they openly make gross sexual remarks and jokes I am constantly surrounded by a very unChrist like environment where my mind can be so easily poisoned and habits like cussing can easily infiltrate my mind.
But I don't allow it to i keep my focus and my thoughts on God, granted i do stumble but for the most part these things have no power over me because I am looking to God not what is around my everyday situation. But just because I am constantly surrounded by this stuff does not mean it has any power over me because if my hearts eyes are set upon God then I am blind to all the other stuff that are constantly trying to infiltrate my mind.

In the same way even if you around weed all the time if you keep your hearts eyes set upon God then you will see how rejecting the craving slowly dies down. The best advice I can give you is to seek the Lord with all your heart every day al;l day, we all tend to not spend enough time with him and he is like water for our bodies if our bodies don't get enough water our bodies don't function very well and it's the same with our hearts and faith with him if we deprive our hearts of him and aren't spending enough time with him our faith and our hearts and our love begin to wither and things like addiction and sin have a better grip on us

 

[Ahwatukee]

Are you familiar with the Cannabinoid receptors built into the body?

"Cannabinoid receptors are activated by cannabinoids, generated naturally inside the body"
Source

If what you were insinuating about pot/cannabis being a drug that= sorcery is correct, then every human being and some animals have sorcery built into them by God because we naturally produce it in our bodies.

That is a lame excuse for drug use. Look at the word that I provided, then go to Gal.5:20 and Rev.9 where the words sorcery, magic arts and witchcraft is used and make your decision regarding what those scriptures are saying.

"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; idolatry and sorcery; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

"The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk. 21Furthermore, they did not repent of their murder, sorcery, sexual immorality, and theft."

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Strong's Concordance

pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells​

Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Short Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment
Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment.

HELPS Word-studies
5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc. (A. T. Robertson).

The fact stands that the word "pharmakia" which is where we get our English word from, is translated as sorcery, magic arts and witchcraft depending on which translation you are reading. Do with the information whatever you will. I'm just providing it.

 

[PerfectlyImperfect]

You know I live in a house where everyone cusses constantly they openly make gross sexual remarks and jokes I am constantly surrounded by a very unChrist like environment where my mind can be so easily poisoned and habits like cussing can easily infiltrate my mind.
But I don't allow it to i keep my focus and my thoughts on God, granted i do stumble but for the most part these things have no power over me because I am looking to God not what is around my everyday situation. But just because I am constantly surrounded by this stuff does not mean it has any power over me because if my hearts eyes are set upon God then I am blind to all the other stuff that are constantly trying to infiltrate my mind.

In the same way even if you around weed all the time if you keep your hearts eyes set upon God then you will see how rejecting the craving slowly dies down. The best advice I can give you is to seek the Lord with all your heart every day al;l day, we all tend to not spend enough time with him and he is like water for our bodies if our bodies don't get enough water our bodies don't function very well and it's the same with our hearts and faith with him if we deprive our hearts of him and aren't spending enough time with him our faith and our hearts and our love begin to wither and things like addiction and sin have a better grip on us

That's, a good way to look at it! And because of my new found relationship God I know for a fact that I'm stronger than my surroundings! I sometimes feel saying I have nothing but addicts in my family is a cop out, because that use to be the driving force as to why I never did drugs. It's amazing to me how I refuse to be an alcoholic and to this day have never had an issue with it, yet I turned out to be a stoner. But I can give up all manly things for God, it's just gonna take a minute for the urges to go away. But I know they will.

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

That is a lame excuse for drug use. Look at the word that I provided, then go to Gal.5:20 and Rev.9 where the words sorcery, magic arts and witchcraft is used and make your decision regarding what those scriptures are saying.

"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; idolatry and sorcery; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

"The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk. 21Furthermore, they did not repent of their murder, sorcery, sexual immorality, and theft."

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Strong's Concordance

pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells​

Original Word: φαρμακεία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pharmakeia
Phonetic Spelling: (far-mak-i'-ah)
Short Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment
Definition: magic, sorcery, enchantment.

HELPS Word-studies
5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc. (A. T. Robertson).

The fact stands that the word "pharmakia" which is where we get our English word from, is translated as sorcery, magic arts and witchcraft depending on which translation you are reading. Do with the information whatever you will. I'm just providing it.

No one is promoting drug use.
"Yet wisdom is seen in here children".

Psalm 141:5
Let a righteous man strike me—it is a kindness;
let him rebuke me—it is oil for my head;
let my head not refuse it.
Yet my prayer is continually against their evil deeds.

Have a nice night all.
and to the OP,...
Once again,
best wishes on your success.

Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

 

[Blain]

That's, a good way to look at it! And because of my new found relationship God I know for a fact that I'm stronger than my surroundings! I sometimes feel saying I have nothing but addicts in my family is a cop out, because that use to be the driving force as to why I never did drugs. It's amazing to me how I refuse to be an alcoholic and to this day have never had an issue with it, yet I turned out to be a stoner. But I can give up all manly things for God, it's just gonna take a minute for the urges to go away. But I know they will.

Thats the right attitude right there, just keep moving forwards

 

[PerfectlyImperfect]

Thats the right attitude right there, just keep moving forwards

That's the only direction I can move! As time machines have not yet been invented lol seriously though thanks for the support means a lot!

 

[graceNpeace]

Are you familiar with the Cannabinoid receptors built into the body?

"Cannabinoid receptors are activated by cannabinoids, generated naturally inside the body"
Source

If what you were insinuating about pot/cannabis being a drug that= sorcery is correct, then every human being and some animals have sorcery built into them by God because we naturally produce it in our bodies.

With respect there is a lot of confusion coming into this thread right now.

As a disclaimer, I am physician who does intensive care medicine so I do have a fair bit of knowledge with the topic at hand.

The presence of cannabinoid receptors does not legitimise cannabis in any way.
By way of an example:
Nicotine, the substance that actually produces dependence in tobacco, was instrumental in finding a class of receptors in the body.
These receptors are called nicotinic receptors but the endogenous ligand (the substance that actually binds the receptor in normal physiology) is acetylcholine. Interestingly enough acetylcholine binds to more than one receptor in the body, and is not limited to this particular receptor.
Acetylcholine is not chemically related to nicotine but they happen to bind to the same receptor.
This fact does not "endorse" nicotine in any way.

The same can be said for cannabis - the fact that exogenous cannabinoids are pharmacologically active simply means that they must react with our bodies in some way. The fact that a family of receptors have now been found that react with exogenous cannabinoids does not endorse the use of cannabis any more than the fact that nicotine does bind to nicotinic receptors endorses tobacco usage.

The fact is that any substance that is pharmacologically active binds to a receptor, either to stimulate it or to inhibit it.
If it did not then it would not be pharmacologically active - simple as that!

Now for the kicker - what are called endocannabinoids in that wikipedia article are NOT chemically related in the slightest to the phytocannabinoids produced by the cannabis plant.

So, the body does not produce chemicals that are in any way similar to plant-produced phytocannabinoids and they DO NOT result in the same affects when stimulated by plant-based phytocannabinoids.

The moral argument about the use and misuse of ANY pharmacologically-active substance does not lie in whether there is a receptor for that substance in the body!

 

[Rainrider]

Drug use is referred to in the Bible as witchcraft and sorcery.
See Galatians 5:20, Revelation 9:21 and 18:23.
The greek word there is pharmakeia.
Don't kill the messenger.

Hold on let me sharpen my pitch fork. LOL

 

[OneFaith]

I have suffered with an addiction problem to marijuana. Mainly, because I'm from a long line of addiction. In no way am I saying I have any withdrawal symptoms. I just simply want to smoke it all the time.
I personally hear from multiple people that "God made weed", and I think okay, but how many joints do you think he smokes a day?

God put medicines in the earth. But He also gave us doctors, and wants things done orderly and controlled. Not only doctors, He gave us police, judges, armies, etc. He put authorities in place for order and control. You can't just say "God put it here, so I can have it, and as much of it as I choose." And over indulging in anything is a sin itself.

Alcohol was given to some to relieve their pain, or they were dying. Weed is in the same category. You have to have a really good reason to use it, and the permission of your doctor and of the laws of the land in which you live.

If it's medicine it should be treated like medicine- in pill form- not in cookies or smoke. The smoke of weed causes lung cancer just like the smoke from cigarettes or cigars. And it's been reported that children have unknowingly eaten these cookies- which if viewed as medicine should have been out of their reach like other medicines.

If someone is in extreme pain, with only a month left to live, then yeah, they should relieve their pain since they don't have time to develope cancer anyways. But they should not use it in a way that causes others to use it too (smoke, cookies, not having it locked up).

But for someone to use it just as recreation- that's a sin- even if they do have a doctor's blessing. God calls us to be sober-minded, alert, and ready.

Addiction does not mean impossible to overcome.

 

[lastofall]

No, except for medical use, otherwise it is in vain.

 

[Rainrider]

God put medicines in the earth. But He also gave us doctors, and wants things done orderly and controlled. Not only doctors, He gave us police, judges, armies, etc. He put authorities in place for order and control. You can't just say "God put it here, so I can have it, and as much of it as I choose." And over indulging in anything is a sin itself.

Alcohol was given to some to relieve their pain, or they were dying. Weed is in the same category. You have to have a really good reason to use it, and the permission of your doctor and of the laws of the land in which you live.

If it's medicine it should be treated like medicine- in pill form- not in cookies or smoke. The smoke of weed causes lung cancer just like the smoke from cigarettes or cigars. And it's been reported that children have unknowingly eaten these cookies- which if viewed as medicine should have been out of their reach like other medicines.

If someone is in extreme pain, with only a month left to live, then yeah, they should relieve their pain since they don't have time to develope cancer anyways. But they should not use it in a way that causes others to use it too (smoke, cookies, not having it locked up).

But for someone to use it just as recreation- that's a sin- even if they do have a doctor's blessing. God calls us to be sober-minded, alert, and ready.

Addiction does not mean impossible to overcome.

I am not going to say your wrong in anyway at all, though it may seem that way at first. Sorry if it does.
Being under a doctors care, for pain that is never going to end, the use of RX drugs, would lead to much worse things than pain. Like liver, kidneys, and heart failure. That is some of the good things that I have found with the drugs they push.
After looking into Medical marijuana, I have found that it is much safer than the Rx. Now if one wishes to place a person on that list of folks with little time left on this earth, then hay give them all the RX. drugs you can.
I like a clear mind, and love the idea that I won't be dying in my sleep do to the sudden on set of Bleeding ulcers, from Rx. drugs like Naproxen, having to take even more drugs to cover up what drugs like tramadol, or Cyclobezapr offer to their takers.
So Yes I talked this over with the pain management doc. We came to an understanding, that I would rather be in pain, than take that kind of crap. So I am now using, Cannabis oil, and Turmeric. I get the same or better results than what the RX drugs gave. With no fogging of the mind, or loss of concentration. NO side effects of any kind, and hay, I won't be found dead in my bed, from bleeding out. Or be placed on dialyses, due to kidneys shutting down.
Cannabis is not the big bad buggy man, that RX drugs are. Do some looking at some of the things you have been taking, if any. I am sure you may not like what you find. HaShem has given us everything we need, we just need to use it, and do so in a responsible manner. Anything can be bad for you, even food. So before we give things over to Satan, we may wish to look for him in the things that are made by man, and not the things given By HaShem.
Just the humble ideas of man that has really had good reason to do his research.

 

[WingsOfFidelity]

While I am not a medical professional, but from personal experience I can say if you stay off it a week then you are pretty much over the psychological impulse to smoke it and it becomes a decision of choice and not addiction. And thus addiction is a choice not a disease neither is it a sin but rather it is an error, IMO

So what medicinal effects does smoking marijuana have which can not be treated with other medications currently available?

Most of the medications available have very adverse side effects that cause you to need even more meds. Marijuana has no side effects that cause you to need more meds. It is a healthier way to treat certain problems.

 

[graceNpeace]

Most of the medications available have very adverse side effects that cause you to need even more meds. Marijuana has no side effects that cause you to need more meds. It is a healthier way to treat certain problems.

Sorry, that is simply NOT true!
Please don't go around making statements like this - or else I am going to ask for your qualifications.

 

[PerfectlyImperfect]

Most of the medications available have very adverse side effects that cause you to need even more meds. Marijuana has no side effects that cause you to need more meds. It is a healthier way to treat certain problems.

One of the side effects for me personally, is it changed my moods drastically.

 

[graceNpeace]

One of the side effects for me personally, is it changed my moods drastically.

Yes, amongst many other possibilities...

 

[NoNameMcgee]

One of the side effects for me personally, is it changed my moods drastically.

same
mainly my ability to have a good time when i wasnt under the influence

and short term memory

it also made me want to eat more often

i pretty much stopped having dreams (or being able to remember them as well)

definitely effected my wallet....


what else.....

 

[Grace777x70]

One of the side effects for me personally, is it changed my moods drastically.

Yes..a lot of things change our moods - including cannabis, alcohol, certain foods, circumstances as well as the thoughts that we allow in our minds.

 

[PerfectlyImperfect]

same
mainly my ability to have a good time when i wasnt under the influence

and short term memory

it also made me want to eat more often

i pretty much stopped having dreams (or being able to remember them as well)

definitely effected my wallet....


what else.....

It definitely has effected my memory, as I feel I have forgotten the spelling of most of the words I learned in grade school...as for dreams, I think it makes mine more vivid. It can definitely cause weight gain if your not careful. And can also lead to arrest in my neck of the woods! So it definitely has it's side effects.