You are perfectly correct. On one hand the Lord Jesus Christ firmly established the Ten Commandments by distilling them into the two greatest commandments. On the other hand, He raised the demands of the Ten Commandments to a higher and more spiritual level in the Sermon on the Mount. And all the teachings of Christ are applicable to Christians. To make the lame excuse that Jesus was addressing the Jews is to show a total lack of spiritual discernment.
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You have a very serious misconception about what has been fulfilled and what has been taken away. Obviously you did not read and digest what I posted. Since both Paul and James make specific reference to the Ten Commandments within the Law of Love (also called the Royal Law or the Law of Liberty) perhaps you should take some time to digest that before responding.
In the New Testament we follow the 2 greatest laws,love God,and love people.
The ten commandments are laws of love towards God,and people.
Love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,which the ten commandments has love towards people.
The rich man asked Jesus what must he do to inherit eternal life,and Jesus said obey the 6 commandments that have to do with loving people,for love is the fulfilling of the law.
Jesus took the physical ordinances away,but did not take the ten commandments away,for they are laws of love,moral laws.
Paul said we do not void out the law,but we establish it,which the law is spiritual,holy,just,and good,which are the moral laws,laws of love,which are the ten commandments,and any law that has to do with love.
The Old Testament had the spiritual law,and the physical law,but what remains in the New Testament is the spiritual law,which is the ten commandments.
A Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh,for they have crucified the flesh with the lusts and affections,and show the ways of the Spirit,so there is no fleshy ways there,so they are not under the law,which means their sins are forgiven,and they are not sinning,therefore the law cannot touch them for prosecution.
If they sin then they are back under the law until they repent,but there is many who hold unto sin,and think they are alright,but then they are under the law until they give the sin up.
We are not under the law if we are led of the Spirit,and that is because we are not sinning.The law cannot touch us for prosecution if we are not committing sin.
I do not understand how some say we cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect our relationship with God.Jesus said whatever is in your heart is what comes out,so if they sin then that is what is in their heart,then how are they clean.
The ten commandments are always to be obeyed because they are laws of love towards God,and people,and we follow the 2 greatest commandments in the New Testament.
The Gentile nations would of had similar laws like the ten commandments which is common sense,for they do not want their nation to be in an uproar,for every nation has laws not to hurt people,for how could your nation prosper,and they sure are not going to advocate hurting each other,which some might not give credit to the Bible saying other nations had laws like the ten commandments,as if the nation of Israel was not special,but that is silly,for common sense wise they would,with the exception of the sabbath day.
The ten commandments are laws of love towards God,and people.
Love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,which the ten commandments has love towards people.
The rich man asked Jesus what must he do to inherit eternal life,and Jesus said obey the 6 commandments that have to do with loving people,for love is the fulfilling of the law.
Jesus took the physical ordinances away,but did not take the ten commandments away,for they are laws of love,moral laws.
Paul said we do not void out the law,but we establish it,which the law is spiritual,holy,just,and good,which are the moral laws,laws of love,which are the ten commandments,and any law that has to do with love.
The Old Testament had the spiritual law,and the physical law,but what remains in the New Testament is the spiritual law,which is the ten commandments.
A Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh,for they have crucified the flesh with the lusts and affections,and show the ways of the Spirit,so there is no fleshy ways there,so they are not under the law,which means their sins are forgiven,and they are not sinning,therefore the law cannot touch them for prosecution.
If they sin then they are back under the law until they repent,but there is many who hold unto sin,and think they are alright,but then they are under the law until they give the sin up.
We are not under the law if we are led of the Spirit,and that is because we are not sinning.The law cannot touch us for prosecution if we are not committing sin.
I do not understand how some say we cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect our relationship with God.Jesus said whatever is in your heart is what comes out,so if they sin then that is what is in their heart,then how are they clean.
The ten commandments are always to be obeyed because they are laws of love towards God,and people,and we follow the 2 greatest commandments in the New Testament.
The Gentile nations would of had similar laws like the ten commandments which is common sense,for they do not want their nation to be in an uproar,for every nation has laws not to hurt people,for how could your nation prosper,and they sure are not going to advocate hurting each other,which some might not give credit to the Bible saying other nations had laws like the ten commandments,as if the nation of Israel was not special,but that is silly,for common sense wise they would,with the exception of the sabbath day.
Visual Aids sometimes really, really help folks.......... 
Matthew 22:36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38) This is the first and great commandment. 39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Notice anything? No? Hmm.....see, Scripture says "HANG"......see.....the law and prophets ARE STILL THERE being HELD UP by the Two......
The Ten Commandments are FOR THE CHURCH!
Matthew 22:36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38) This is the first and great commandment. 39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Notice anything? No? Hmm.....see, Scripture says "HANG"......see.....the law and prophets ARE STILL THERE being HELD UP by the Two......
The Ten Commandments are FOR THE CHURCH!
The whole Bible is the book of the perfect law with no laws missing by which we could know God more adequately..
His interpretation to us contains no philosophical theories of men.
It would seem he uses words like ten and in multitudes of it... like a hundred, or a thousand in varying figurative senses, to represent the whole.
Ten commandment represent all the commandments to include the one ..Study to show one approval of God. And not as men pleasers seeking after their approval. A hard work not to... beyond our own selves
There are different kinds of laws and as we can see by looking at the ten . One is used as parables to point to the unseen will of God.
The rendering of the two (Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5) have a difference to show that ceremonial laws (shadows) govern ceremonies used to point ahead to the suffering of Christ beforehand. And the moral law governs the whole world so that men do not destroy each other..
In the Exodus rendering the reason given is in respect to lamb of God slain from that standpoint.The six days he did work
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
In the Deuteronomy rendering, a different reason to represent the same gospel. Rather than using creation as a beginning he uses another kind of parable another beginning to represent the same gospel and rest we enter into..
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
Just the difference in the two rendering would indicate a parable is in view and we should search for the spiritual unseen understanding. comparing the spiritual understanding to the same spiritual understanding, or faith to faith
The time of reformation has come worshiping shadow as if they were moral laws is not a biblical principle of walking by faith (the unseen eternal )
His interpretation to us contains no philosophical theories of men.
It would seem he uses words like ten and in multitudes of it... like a hundred, or a thousand in varying figurative senses, to represent the whole.
Ten commandment represent all the commandments to include the one ..Study to show one approval of God. And not as men pleasers seeking after their approval. A hard work not to... beyond our own selves
There are different kinds of laws and as we can see by looking at the ten . One is used as parables to point to the unseen will of God.
The rendering of the two (Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5) have a difference to show that ceremonial laws (shadows) govern ceremonies used to point ahead to the suffering of Christ beforehand. And the moral law governs the whole world so that men do not destroy each other..
In the Exodus rendering the reason given is in respect to lamb of God slain from that standpoint.The six days he did work
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
In the Deuteronomy rendering, a different reason to represent the same gospel. Rather than using creation as a beginning he uses another kind of parable another beginning to represent the same gospel and rest we enter into..
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
Just the difference in the two rendering would indicate a parable is in view and we should search for the spiritual unseen understanding. comparing the spiritual understanding to the same spiritual understanding, or faith to faith
The time of reformation has come worshiping shadow as if they were moral laws is not a biblical principle of walking by faith (the unseen eternal )
The purpose of Jesus was to fulfill the law. He became the head and we became the body. We receive salvation by believing in our hearts of His death and resurrection and repenting our sins. Walking in His will and abstaining from sin. We are not under the old laws (Ten Commandments)as gentiles. Why do we abstain from sin and still try to obey the commandments? Because they are a reminder of what is good for us. Killing is not good for your life. Adultery is not good for your marriage. Etc...and sin not only makes Him sad, it is expensive for us...because it causes turmoil in our lives and can bring about many lessons He will use to bring us to our knees.
Romans 8 is still TRUE !
I know there are people that will argue the dispensation. There will people who think salvation hangs on the old laws. There are those that believe we are saved by works.
We are saved by Grace by accepting the gift of Jesus Christ. We do good works because we are to love one another. We seek His will for our lives so He may use us for His purpose and Glory.
So I'm sure the comments are coming...
Romans 8 is still TRUE !
I know there are people that will argue the dispensation. There will people who think salvation hangs on the old laws. There are those that believe we are saved by works.
We are saved by Grace by accepting the gift of Jesus Christ. We do good works because we are to love one another. We seek His will for our lives so He may use us for His purpose and Glory.
So I'm sure the comments are coming...
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Well as a matter of fact, the Law and the Prophets revolved around the Ten Commandments, and the sum and substance of the Old Testament is distilled into the Two Greatest Commandments. But chronologically Exodus 20 comes after Genesis 1, and Exodus 1, and the Law of Moses (the Torah) means the first five books of the Bible.
Visual Aids sometimes really, really help folks..........
Matthew 22:36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38) This is the first and great commandment. 39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Notice anything? No? Hmm.....see, Scripture says "HANG"......see.....the law and prophets ARE STILL THERE being HELD UP by the Two......
The Ten Commandments are FOR THE CHURCH!
Matthew 22:36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38) This is the first and great commandment. 39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Notice anything? No? Hmm.....see, Scripture says "HANG"......see.....the law and prophets ARE STILL THERE being HELD UP by the Two......
The Ten Commandments are FOR THE CHURCH!
Visual Aids sometimes really, really help folks..........
Matthew 22:36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38) This is the first and great commandment. 39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Notice anything? No? Hmm.....see, Scripture says "HANG"......see.....the law and prophets ARE STILL THERE being HELD UP by the Two......
The Ten Commandments are FOR THE CHURCH!
Matthew 22:36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38) This is the first and great commandment. 39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Notice anything? No? Hmm.....see, Scripture says "HANG"......see.....the law and prophets ARE STILL THERE being HELD UP by the Two......
The Ten Commandments are FOR THE CHURCH!
'are nothing more than....instructing ISRAEL how THEY were to honour....???
are we forgetting that THEY were the PEOPLE of GOD ???
So if WE the gentiles, christians, pagans and heathens are NOT to follow them - what does that make us ???
let's see Eph 2v11,12, wherefore REMEMBER....
Do you think that gentiles, aliens and strangers from the commonwealth of ISRAEL can TODAY have hope in the God of the Bible ? Whenever did God make a covenant with THEM ? As far as we know GOD's covenants are made with ISRAEL Heb 8v8...the one true FOLD for HIS sheep Joh 10v16.
are we forgetting that THEY were the PEOPLE of GOD ???
So if WE the gentiles, christians, pagans and heathens are NOT to follow them - what does that make us ???
let's see Eph 2v11,12, wherefore REMEMBER....
Do you think that gentiles, aliens and strangers from the commonwealth of ISRAEL can TODAY have hope in the God of the Bible ? Whenever did God make a covenant with THEM ? As far as we know GOD's covenants are made with ISRAEL Heb 8v8...the one true FOLD for HIS sheep Joh 10v16.
the thing is you are confusing what "the Law" is there are different Laws, there is the Mosaic Law, that is the covenant you are referring to Between the God of abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of Israel, and Israel, the Mosaic Law is what you find written in the book of the Law, the ten commandments However are the covenant Law. the eternal Law of God. the ten commandments were spoken By God to the People, not as through Moses, and Gods finger wrote the ten commandments, twice He wrote them.
the ten commandments were placed inside the ark, the Book of the Law of moses was set beside the ark of the testimony there as a witness against israel who would break the covenant as God tol Moses when Moses prepared to die.
How can anyone argue that the ten commandments arent Upheld by the new covenant? Love " fulfills the Law" it upholds the Law. theres no moral that is incorrect in the Law at all, it is oppsed to sinners because its a holy Law and the person is a sinner. the new covenant doesnt forsake the Old the thing that changes is we the believer. we go from the flesh covenant to abrams offspring which you are referring to and then there is the covenant that says " in thy seed all peoples of the earth will be blessed.
the first covenant is How the sinners see Gods Law, the new covenant is How children of God see Gods Law. all the law says of right and wrong still remains valid even Now, the authority of the Law doesnt hold over us because Like you are saying, the Mosaic Law is a covenant between God and the sons of Israel. it s authority is over them who lived beneath it, We are enjoined with israel as Gods People, this was foretold always through Prophets. we have been included in Gods Eternal covenant along with israel through Israels Messiah, given also to the gentile to offer salvation to the ends of the earth.
Jesus only ministered to Jews also for the Most part, the apostles bith peter and paul preached to gentiles the same Gospel that was preached to them By Jesus.
the commandments are not part of the Ordinances and cleansig rites, or the feasts or special sabbath days ect, those are what is called a foreshadow of what Jesus would do, all of those sacrifices in the first covenant, those we only showing what the messiah would do with His blood when He came, things Like the washing rites arent needed because Jesus word is what makes us clean before God. all of the seven feasts are fulfilled in Christ, and also the One moses promised to speak the true words and judgements of God, with all his authority.
Judaism is a dead religion all jew and gentile now Have One way to salvation, One name to call upon. One shepherd One fold" Both Jew and gentile both in christ the One and Only way. the ten commandments are taught by the apostles and have never been made of no effect. as Long as there is sin, there will be a Law. thou shalt nots all still apply to the new covenant, in the new we change because we are born again of the holy ghost made partakers of Jesus and His holiness, able to walk as we are commanded and able to embrace the goodness of His ways that they become non offensive. His Law is simply put, right, it will never be alright to Kill, steal, lie, bear false witness, have other gods, make idols and worshoip them, it will never be right to commit adultery ect. the law applys, we are not beneath it any longer we can walk it out by the power of the Holy spirit
If we, as believers, will do our best to follow the "two greatest commands" given to us by Jesus, we have NO NEED for the 10 commandments. None.
Actually, putting too much emphasis on the 10 C's could be detrimental to a believer.... we fall right back into the trap that the Pharisees were in... trying to keep the "letter of the law".
"Well, I'm certainly not guilty of adultery.... I've never slept with anyone other than my wife" except, that's not what Jesus said.. He said don't even have lustful thoughts about someone else.
You are placing your belief and basing your behavior on incomplete written law... which Jesus came to fulfill.... to perfect.
We should not fall back and depend on the written 10 commandments to be our only moral compass.
Actually, putting too much emphasis on the 10 C's could be detrimental to a believer.... we fall right back into the trap that the Pharisees were in... trying to keep the "letter of the law".
"Well, I'm certainly not guilty of adultery.... I've never slept with anyone other than my wife" except, that's not what Jesus said.. He said don't even have lustful thoughts about someone else.
You are placing your belief and basing your behavior on incomplete written law... which Jesus came to fulfill.... to perfect.
We should not fall back and depend on the written 10 commandments to be our only moral compass.
What are the Godly principles of "love," and where are they found in scripture? Or do we tend to make up our own rules, and call it Godly when it is actually the traditions of men, same as the Pharisaical doctrines that Jesus despised? Read Leviticus chapter 19. These are the instructions on how to love God's way, not ours.
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