Paul exposes false application of the law

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loveme1

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Loving God, loving others and loving yourself is more in depth? How so?
Because Loving GOD is not measured by the 10 Commandments to the letter... it is deep as in you can not say you Love GOD and not feed the hungry man you step over to get in to church to proclaim your Love for GOD.. your Love for GOD was in feeding the hungry man... the New Testament is of Faith that worketh by love..
 
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Jesus tells us in Matt 5 how week the law is. By saying it is written, but I tell you. 3 different laws. He explained what the letter could not tell you. He then went on to show how two great commands (the spiritual law) contains all the law and prophets.

 
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Because Loving GOD is not measured by the 10 Commandments to the letter... it is deep as in you can not say you Love GOD and not feed the hungry man you step over to get in to church to proclaim your Love for GOD.. your Love for GOD was in feeding the hungry man... the New Testament is of Faith that worketh by love..
This is not deep this just what enabling grace does for us. You do good works out love for him, not to maintain anything.
 
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Because Loving GOD is not measured by the 10 Commandments to the letter... it is deep as in you can not say you Love GOD and not feed the hungry man you step over to get in to church to proclaim your Love for GOD.. your Love for GOD was in feeding the hungry man... the New Testament is of Faith that worketh by love..

And that is why the letter can not make us righteous people. All it can do is condemn us.. Thats why it is called the ministry of death/
 

loveme1

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Your not condemned by the spiritual law. Where do you get this? Your condemned by the law written on stones, also called the ministry of death.


The law was not given to tell you how to be righteous. It was written to shut every mouth, because all have sinn4ed and fall short. Why do people keep insisting it was?


I’m not condemned because I have been born again of the Holy Spirit... I Believe the Lord...
 
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This is not deep this just what enabling grace does for us. You do good works out love for him, not to maintain anything.

Another thing the law as written can not teach us.
 
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I’m not condemned because I have been born again of the Holy Spirit... I Believe the Lord...
What?

This is not what we were discussing, You asked how the spiritual law condemned us, I responde4d by showing it did not. The letter or physical law did.
 

loveme1

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What?

This is not what we were discussing, You asked how the spiritual law condemned us, I responde4d by showing it did not. The letter or physical law did.
Then tell me of the law that condemned me and the Spiritual Law?
 
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The law of moses (letter) says do not commit adultry

can you explain by those words alone what that means, what it entails. What would constitute breaking it?

And then, How do we obey it, By readin git sand putting it in our minds it is a bad things we should not do it? And how easy is that to do? Especially when you just have the words. Do not commit adultry.
Sure I can explain it.

Love for your neighbor & Love for God will prohibit you from having physical adultery and spiritual/mental/emotional adultery[lust in your heart] with your neighbors wife

Why do peeps complicate God? Why is this hard and so in depth again?



Romans 13:8-10
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
 
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Sure I can explain it.

Love for your neighbor & Love for God will prohibit you from having physical adultery and spiritual/mental/emotional adultery[lust in your heart] with your neighbors wife

Why do peeps complicate God? Why is this hard and so in depth again?



Romans 13:8-10
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
You gave me a NT passage which they did not have in the OT. Jesus words about love, Pauls words in romans was not yet written or revealed then. They were given to us in the NT as the new way.

I asked you what the letter by themselves mean.

Can you try again please..
 

loveme1

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Sure I can explain it.

Love for your neighbor & Love for God will prohibit you from having physical adultery and spiritual/mental/emotional adultery[lust in your heart] with your neighbors wife

Why do peeps complicate God? Why is this hard and so in depth again?



Romans 13:8-10
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

That is part of the Royal Law..
 
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You gave me a NT passage which they did not have in the OT. Jesus words about love, Pauls words in romans was not yet written or revealed then. They were given to us in the NT as the new way.

I asked you what the letter by themselves mean.

Can you try again please..
Can you please reexplain what you are asking for?
 

loveme1

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You gave me a NT passage which they did not have in the OT. Jesus words about love, Pauls words in romans was not yet written or revealed then. They were given to us in the NT as the new way.

I asked you what the letter by themselves mean.

Can you try again please..
GOD states that those that Love Him Keep His Commandments..
 
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Then tell me of the law that condemned me and the Spiritual Law?

In second cor 3: 7, Paul called the law the ministry of death, why is it called that?

In gal 3. Paul said the law condemned us by placing us under a curse. Why is that.

In romans 9, Paul said Israel attempted to find righteousness, but could not, because they tried to find it through the law. Again what did he mean.

 
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GOD states that those that Love Him Keep His Commandments..

Yep. And I can love God, and obey all of Gods commands given in the law of moses by the letter. Yet still sin. Why is that?
 

loveme1

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In second cor 3: 7, Paul called the law the ministry of death, why is it called that?

In gal 3. Paul said the law condemned us by placing us under a curse. Why is that.

In romans 9, Paul said Israel attempted to find righteousness, but could not, because they tried to find it through the law. Again what did he mean.


Show me what condemns me.. and then show me the Spiritual Law of GOD...
 
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Can you please reexplain what you are asking for?

I asked what the command, though shalt not commit adultry, as given to moses means. If I was a jew sitting at the bottom of the mountain, And moses came down, and read the law he was given by God, one of which do not commit adultry. What would I think that constituted by the words itself.