Prosperity preaching Pastor prosecuted, prisoned

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MichaelOwen

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the couple started another firm focused on the Nigerian oil industry
Perhaps some of those investors should have been asking questions. :facepalm:
 

BillG

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Perhaps some of those investors should have been asking questions. :facepalm:
Maybe their love of money got in the way.
 

Jackson123

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https://www.theroot.com/virginia-pastor-and-his-wife-found-guilty-of-scamming-m-1821469560


How do so many rationally thinking ppl get sucked into this 'another gospel' junk?
because AS a human, we want to be physically Prosper. When I was young, me to want to be prosper, have a good job and good income, most of us, me include, are Occupied by worldly thinking, and we forget that we are spiritual human, and must focus oN thing above. We forget that earthly thing are temporary, and worthless. Only a cent thing above ia $ billions.

We spend 10 hours a day to earn a cent and 3 hours a week to earn $ billion mansion in heaven.

people think Being bless is to become millioner for 50 years of the rest of our live on earth.

For apostle Paul, Being bless is to be with the Lord in a mansion for a billons years in heaven

that why Paul say to die is a gain/profit


Philippians 1

21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
Do you know what capital gain tax is, when you buy a house for $ 10 and you sale $15 you make $ 5 profit.

when you die you make profit because you move to a big mansion for ever not temporary gain oN earth
 
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Maybe their love of money got in the way.
I think if you strike 'maybe' off of your post, you'd be correct. Their love of $ got in the way. No 'maybe' to it.
 
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because AS a human, we want to be physically Prosper. When I was young, me to want to be prosper, have a good job and good income, most of us, me include, are Occupied by worldly thinking, and we forget that we are spiritual human, and must focus oN thing above. We forget that earthly thing are temporary, and worthless. Only a cent thing above ia $ billions.

We spend 10 hours a day to earn a cent and 3 hours a week to earn $ billion mansion in heaven.

people think Being bless is to become millioner for 50 years of the rest of our live on earth.

For apostle Paul, Being bless is to be with the Lord in a mansion for a billons years in heaven

that why Paul say to die is a gain/profit


Philippians 1

21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
Do you know what capital gain tax is, when you buy a house for $ 10 and you sale $15 you make $ 5 profit.

when you die you make profit because you move to a big mansion for ever not temporary gain oN earth
They don't want to be prosperous as you defined it. The prosperity doctrine advocates ppl being filthy rich. I mean, rub it in your nose filthy rich. Private jets, fancy autos, luxurious mansions, $10,000 suits, &c. Shoot, Jim Bakker's pets had airconditioned houses. Its not about them helping the poor, but pilfering the poor to satisfy their greed, which will never be satiated.
 

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Shocking how people are deceived by those who corrupt the following.

Malachi 3:10
10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.
 
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Shocking how people are deceived by those who corrupt the following.

Malachi 3:10
10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.
Though part of me is surprised how easily duped some ppl are, in reality, he was preaching what that congregation wanted to hear. He was scratching their itching ears.
 
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T.D. Jakes'...



Its obvious the kingdom these ppl are sowing into is their pastor's mansion and affluent lifestyle.

#affluenza
 

MichaelOwen

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That is just ridiculous....you know what really comes to my mind when I see things like this? The parable of the man who had barns and he received a harvest so great that he said within himself, What shall I do? My barns aren't big enough, Oh I know, i'll tear these down and build up new bigger barns and say to my soul to take ease, eat drink and be merry.....and you know what God called him? A fool...not only that, he took him out of this world that night. I'd seriously like to see what this preacher would do if a lame poor man came and knocked on his door asking for alms or for food....I'd love to be the fly on that wall.
 

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That is just ridiculous....you know what really comes to my mind when I see things like this? The parable of the man who had barns and he received a harvest so great that he said within himself, What shall I do? My barns aren't big enough, Oh I know, i'll tear these down and build up new bigger barns and say to my soul to take ease, eat drink and be merry.....and you know what God called him? A fool...not only that, he took him out of this world that night. I'd seriously like to see what this preacher would do if a lame poor man came and knocked on his door asking for alms or for food....I'd love to be the fly on that wall.
nice temporary house, but don't worry our permanent mansion in heaven is 10 time bigger and free property tax, free maintenance, they pursue temporary mansion, only worth a cent, compare with our mansion
 

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Though part of me is surprised how easily duped some ppl are, in reality, he was preaching what that congregation wanted to hear. He was scratching their itching ears.
I remember many many years ago. I was massively in debt.
I went to see one of our elders who helped people in debt.

He recommended I tithe gross to the church under a deed for 3, as a result God would help with my debt.

At the end of three years my debt was much much higher.

I remember praying about it and I firmly heard God say

"What is honouring about tithing rather than meeting your debt payments?
"It is not honouring me at all, do not renew your tithe and start paying your debts"

I also knew of debt that I owed but was hiding from the debtors
God asked me to call them up and tell them where I was

That I did and then many amazing things started to happen.
It was a good few years before the debts were cleared.

What is interesting though is that we are not a prosperity church but even my elder fell foul of give to get back.
 
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I remember many many years ago. I was massively in debt.
I went to see one of our elders who helped people in debt.

He recommended I tithe gross to the church under a deed for 3, as a result God would help with my debt.

At the end of three years my debt was much much higher.

I remember praying about it and I firmly heard God say

"What is honouring about tithing rather than meeting your debt payments?
"It is not honouring me at all, do not renew your tithe and start paying your debts"

I also knew of debt that I owed but was hiding from the debtors
God asked me to call them up and tell them where I was

That I did and then many amazing things started to happen.
It was a good few years before the debts were cleared.

What is interesting though is that we are not a prosperity church but even my elder fell foul of give to get back.
The pastors site malchi and see themselves as the ot priests or levites.
Ok,the levite could NOT own land and several other things.
They actually are HIPPOCRITES.
BREAKERS OF THEIR OWN LAW.

It gets worse.
Every seven years the tithe WAS NOT PAID.
The LORD commanded them to sell the portion of crop that normally went to the priest, and take the family to the mountains. And spend the tithe on themselves.
THEY,THE PASTORS OWE RESTITUTION TO THE FLOCK.

BIG TIME. THEY ROBBED THEIR OWN SHEEP.
 
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heartofdavid

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https://www.theroot.com/virginia-pastor-and-his-wife-found-guilty-of-scamming-m-1821469560


How do so many rationally thinking ppl get sucked into this 'another gospel' junk?
I also wana puke at the misuse of the kings money.
Prosperity is Gods economy. The ministry as well as the flock most always benefit from Gods Law of reciprocity.
It is heavens economy.

It is perversion to greedily covet and complile wealth.. Each person is accountable.

Dont worry,they will be sorely disappointed for perverting the law of sowing and reaping.

One way they will be judged is their heavenly accomidation and position.

Likely they will be our butlers and gardners with a mother in law residence. FOR ETERNITY

THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES.
 
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We spend 10 hours a day to earn a cent and 3 hours a week to earn $ billion mansion in heaven.
We don't earn a mansion in heaven.

For apostle Paul, Being bless is to be with the Lord in a mansion for a billons years in heaven
There is no time element in eternity.