2 John 1:11 Greeting Evil Teachers!

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Joseppi

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The scripture says the 'requirement' of discernment is excersing discernment. Those who have exercised are able to handle the stronger things.

If I feed my 8 month year old milk toast, and that's all he can handle I will not say he is able to eat solid food. Once they start eating solid vegetables and meat, then I say they are able to handle solid food.
We can't logically equate "solid food" with "strong meat" by rationalizations.
Which is why the scripture says, "of full age" lest someone suppose that a babe quickly becomes full grown the moment teeth appear.

Milk refers to needing a mother to do the chewing and teaching for a babe.

The strong meat refers to being of full age, having one's own teeth, and then excercising them to rightly divide the word of God.

Veggies and bread do not require the strength strong meat does.
Note that not only is meat used in the metaphor but the word strong also so as to emphasis the need for full age strength and use to obtain the discernment of both good and evil.
And notice that the word "both" signifies that experience in each is needed lest we be imbalanced in our understanding.

"Solid food" weakens if not ruins the teaching.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Call me a heretic. I used to believe in historical Christianity. Look at 2 John closely. Believe in the Father and Son. What about the Holy Spirit? First John 2:1 says that Jesus is the Advocate/Counselor. lower case advocate in ESV. Advocate is not in NIV.

First John 1. The begotten of God does not sin but if they sin they confess and God forgives.
surface meaning: We are saved by confessing sin.
deeper meaning: First John defends the gospel of John. The gospel of John does not include the temptations of Jesus, does not name the garden across the Kidron valley where Jesus was arrested (18:1) where Jesus had his night of doubt also not mentioned in John. First John explains the begotten of God does not sin. (3:9) It becomes confusing when bibles translated begotten of God and born of God but it is the same. John does not believe Jesus was tempted.
John was friends with James because they were on the Jerusalem city council. James wrote (1:13) that God cannot be tempted. John believes this. John believes Jesus is equal to God (5:18).
First John 5:7. Father Son and Holy Spirit is not in modern bibles. this phrase was inserted in the manuscript, I believe because someone pointed out that since water and blood are things then the Holy Spirit may not be a person. The phrase Father,Son and HolySpirit makes 3 persons.
The professor likely has a doctorate in theology. To get a doctorate, you have to sit before a panel that tests you on whether you can interpret the Bible according to the Creeds.
I would not want to be that person when they stand before the Lord because they didn't rightly teach the truth.
Another verse corrupted is Luke 9:35. God choose Jesus. What does chosen son mean?
God choose Abel and his sacrifice over Cain and his sacrifice. Those are the words of Genesis and Hebrews.
choose does not mean that the FAther decided the Son would die for our sins.
chosen means there is a choice.
The Father choose the Son to be creator. Proverbs 8:22>.
The Father choose the Son to be the God of Israel, the first and last, before or after there is no other.
The Father gave the Son the title YHWH. Both are YHWH.
The Father is YHWH God of hosts. TheSon is YHWY of hosts. There is a Holy One of Israel. Isaiah 7-10. Jeremiah 50-51.
The Holy Spirit is with the Father and Son in 2 Corinthians at the end and Titus 3 and Numbers 6.
Jesus is not the Most HIgh God. Sit here at my side until I put all of your enemies under your feet said YHWY to David's Adonai. Deuteronomy 32:8-9. the Most High divided the nations. YHWH's portion is Israel.
I would not want to be a teacher of Trinitarian when I stand before the Lord calling other believers as heretics instead of gently explaining where they are in error.


.......heretic.....
 

Joseppi

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Probably because "corrupt bibles imbued with spirit of antichrist" isn't biblical. It's some new age mystical thought you've heard
The bibles I'm referring to aren't biblical. They are corrupted by evil spirits.
But, the Holy Bible exposes their lies.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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There aren't 50versions of truth.
I rely on the Holy Bible and you can respond as you please.
But what you can't do is avoid it's correction of the falsehoods found in phony bibles.
so King Jimmy only then?
 
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Many posters say they have faith and love the truth but go backwards to Greek and Hebrew to change what God has written in plain English.
Not all words need to be compared to the original one meaning.But when in doubt it can have value as to how we hear as the Spirit gives us ears to make it possible to hear Him unseen

Its when adding new meanings to the Greek or Hebrew or any Nation that person is in danger of violating the warning not to change the meaning of a word singular. It can change the intent of the author .Words are used to declare the authors intent. Changing one word can it would seem alter commandments (plural) It would seem the law below is given as a way of defending his faith that works in us.


Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.Ye shall not add unto the word (singular)which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it(singular), that ye may keep the commandments (plural) of the LORD your God which I command you.Your eyes have seen what the LORD did because of Baalpeor: for all the men that followed Baalpeor, the LORD thy God hath destroyed them from among you.Deu 4:3

Its where words lose their meaning as a law and become slang. The slang becomes the new meaning making the old to no effect . Like the word gay has taken on a new meaning or even the use of the word apostle it has changed the intended purpose to be used in parables as metaphors to give us the unseen spiritual gospel as it would appear in many cases today the meaning has changed making it difficult to understand passes where the word is used as a metaphor ..

Apostle means sent one. or one sent on errand for another. Sent one means sent one .Two different spelled words one Greek the other English same exact one meaning ...sent one. Same kind of sent ones God sent in the Old testament with prophecy the word of God not the word of the sent one.

The word Marriage has become a slang word for ,we want to feel good about violating principles that God has given us to maintain the ability to procreate .The word male or female becomes discriminatory. words losing thier discriminatory communicative value it becomes the tower of Babel . Where there is no law of understanding there is no trespass it becomes the law of a free will ,if it feels good do it.


It begs the question when he does come on the last day will he find a faith generated by the scriptures or will it be like in the time of Noah the evils of the imagination of natural heart the source of faith, the unfaithful trinity.... me, myself and I.

Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
 
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"ὁ λέγων γὰρ αὐτῷ χαίρειν κοινωνεῖ τοῖς ἔργοις αὐτοῦ τοῖς πονηροῖς." 2 John 1:11 SBL Greek

I get a daily email from a professor of Greek in the USAm called "Daily Dose of Greek." He goes through one verse of the NT a day. He talks about the grammar, any idioms, reminds of us of our verb paradigms and then deals with the verse. Of course, most of you don't read Greek, so here is this verse in English, in context!

"Everyone who goes on ahead and does not remain in the teaching of Christ does not have God. The one who remains in this teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house and do not give him any greeting, 11 because the person who gives him a greeting shares in his evil deeds." 1 John 1:9-11

So, what is John saying here? He is warning us not to greet false teachers. He says that even "greeting" these teachers means you are sharing in their deeds! Ouch!

So, what does that mean for forums like CC, where people not only post false doctrine, but they post the constant lies of certain deceivers, and with joy!

People must wonder at my obsession with the truth. Why don't I just put these people on ignore, and leave them alone? Well, there are some people who post stuff that is utter nonsense. Those don't need to be rebuked.

But, others post subtle lies, using bad (or more likely NO!) exegesis. They will post anything that confirms the latest revelation, the latest teaching, even if it is not Biblical. Even if it directly contradicts what the Bible says. And, they will not listen to correction.

And I am not talking about just me! There are many here who reprove these false teachings. But there are also some who let this bad teaching "into their house." They support these people, contrary to Scripture! I am not speaking of soteriological or eschatological arguments that are within the bounds of orthodox Christianity. I am speaking of false doctrines which literally lead you away from God.

Things like don't even think twice about your "failures," (sin appears to have fallen out of favour, as a word which the entire gospel is predicated on.) Or, experience trumps the word of God. Someone told me in another thread, that they have felt electricity running through their body when the Holy Spirit touched them. Really? How about a kundalini spirit? How about experience, never trumps the word of God? Just show me where any disciple had an "electric spirit" run through their body when God saved them.

Sure, tongues of fire, a sound like a rushing wind happened on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2, but no where else. And tongues as a witness in a few places in Acts. But kundalini electricity? That is just scary.

I have always regretted the time I wasted in the New Age movement through the 1970s. Ten years wasted, I always thought. But now, as I see these evil concepts creeping into the church, I reflect gladly that God allowed me to go through that, so now I can stand against that evil from Satan. Truly, God does work all these together for good.

My dedication to this site, is based on the fact that too many greet people resulting in them being a part of the evil deeds of these false teachers. If these people are lost, and will not be corrected, that is between them and God. But there are so many newbies, so many "guests" who read these threads without even joining, and I want them to read the truths laid out in the Bible, not the false new supposed revelations, or the exegetical nonsense and lies some are posting as truth.

So, are you greeting those with false teachings, and thereby sharing in their evil deeds? Or are you standing for Biblical truth?
Hi Angela, thought you may like listening to this video on 2 John:

[video=youtube;YAwMBVDIvXk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAwMBVDIvXk[/video]
 
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I do not think I am fit to be a teacher, not yet at least. I also think we have to many (teachers) and not near enough students. You are actually one of the few on cc that hold in high regard when it comes to the scriptures and I will be the first to admit that I can at times stray more towards experience than the scriptures themselves but I do try to keep any of my beliefs and experiences to the scriptures.

But I agree with you in your post. No one ever considers that damage they do to those who frequent the forum as a guest, they could care less about the fact that the words they speak can and do damage new believers. Personally when it comes to doctrine of the truth I cannot say that I myself know and believe all the correct ones nor can I say that I have all the correct views and beliefs but that is why we are to be students first with a hungry eagerness to learn, those kind of students make the best teachers.

Not everyone has the gift of teaching and yet teach as if they do, but one who has the gift of teaching even if they do not have all the correct doctrines or beliefs will be used by God as only he can because there are teachers yes but person who has the gift of teaching is the best kind of teacher because they are not teachers of the flesh they are teachers of the spirit.
A teacher more than anyone must consider the words they speak and the teachings they teach because in teaching they are placing themselves in the role of helping to mold and guide his sheep and they cannot simply use the scriptures as they see fit as many here do because anyone who takes on the role of a teacher will be held accountable for the words they speak and the scriptures they use.
It would bless you to get into the Word more, consistently, and often. Remember John 17:17.
 
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We can't logically equate "solid food" with "strong meat" by rationalizations.
Which is why the scripture says, "of full age" lest someone suppose that a babe quickly becomes full grown the moment teeth appear.
No worries, no one believes a baby is full grown because of teeth coming in. Did you think that when you saw a baby with teeth, that it was full grown? That would be absurd, wouldn't it? People here are way smarter than what you give them.

"Solid food" weakens if not ruins the teaching.
No, sorry, that's incorrect.

I favor "solid food" over the rendering "strong meat." It's a more accurate description. Meat in old English simply meant food, it doesn't mean a ribeye, and it certainly doesn't mean a "strong" ribeye. :D
 

Angela53510

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Hunger for God is why people experience His touch.

I only told you that because of that article. And you weren't clear about anything. Just ranting and adding your opinions to what was said. I'm not here on this forum to share experiences. Nor teach anything about them so get off your dead horse.

Why so bitter?

I’m sorry if you think I attacked you, or that I sound bitter. More just vehement! Word Faith, experiential Christianity, in the sense that experience is the defining moment in your walk with God, is leading people away from Jesus! Back in my Pentecostal days, too many people were looking for the next experience, the next healing, the next great shock! Dreaming of “more to come”. Hoping God would touch them in an undeniable way.

I got tired of it all, after 15 years. Some amazing things did happen to me. But in the end, those amazing things were all connected to reading the Bible consistently, day after day, year after year. And long sessions of prayer and seeking God on my knees. Sort of old-fashioned, I know.

When Word Faith killed my friend with cancer, because she claimed healing, I re-evaluated everything. I remember her strength, but I remember her need for bigger and bigger experiences. That is when I pulled completely away from experiential Christianity.

And it didn’t make a difference! I was already doing what was necessary, in terms of my growth in God. And God led me in the most amazing ways I would have missed had I stayed stuck in the dreary rut of seeking the experiences instead of God. And I would have missed the theological depth of the Bible, focusing on one thing only - feelings.

When I heard the Greek devotional I posted a link for on page one, down the page, it all came together in my mind. Sheep being led astray (not saying this about you!) People not growing in the Lord, and a lack of depth in the Word of God. Oh yes, I am reading the prophets right now. Jeremiah to be exact. That prophets do make you refocus you walk with God. If I start weeping, then you will know I am still reading the prophets. Those books are seriously affecting me. And they are supposed to, right?
 

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I’m sorry if you think I attacked you, or that I sound bitter. More just vehement! Word Faith, experiential Christianity, in the sense that experience is the defining moment in your walk with God, is leading people away from Jesus! Back in my Pentecostal days, too many people were looking for the next experience, the next healing, the next great shock! Dreaming of “more to come”. Hoping God would touch them in an undeniable way.

I got tired of it all, after 15 years. Some amazing things did happen to me. But in the end, those amazing things were all connected to reading the Bible consistently, day after day, year after year. And long sessions of prayer and seeking God on my knees. Sort of old-fashioned, I know.

When Word Faith killed my friend with cancer, because she claimed healing, I re-evaluated everything. I remember her strength, but I remember her need for bigger and bigger experiences. That is when I pulled completely away from experiential Christianity.

And it didn’t make a difference! I was already doing what was necessary, in terms of my growth in God. And God led me in the most amazing ways I would have missed had I stayed stuck in the dreary rut of seeking the experiences instead of God. And I would have missed the theological depth of the Bible, focusing on one thing only - feelings.

When I heard the Greek devotional I posted a link for on page one, down the page, it all came together in my mind. Sheep being led astray (not saying this about you!) People not growing in the Lord, and a lack of depth in the Word of God. Oh yes, I am reading the prophets right now. Jeremiah to be exact. That prophets do make you refocus you walk with God. If I start weeping, then you will know I am still reading the prophets. Those books are seriously affecting me. And they are supposed to, right?
no problem Angela. I've never looked for an experience initially. Each one has just come.

I do see a difference between being sheep minded and Sonship minded though. And not looking at anyone here to describe, but several have said to me they enjoy being sheep.

Each one to their own call.

I look to see pictures of Jesus out of the OT. I know what you mean about weeping, but what fills me is joy and worship mostly, but when I see a revelation about His love to us personally? Yes, am undone.

blessings! Am glad you posted this.
 
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Angela53510

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Many posters say they have faith and love the truth but go backwards to Greek and Hebrew to change what God has written in plain English.
I would appreciate it if you would go start your own thread, instead of derailing this thread, which came to me while studying Greek! This is not appropriate to keep posting on the KJV, instead of commenting on the thread.

Which is about greeting or welcoming people who are false teachers.

As for Greek and Hebrew, they both are truly necessary for any kind of serious exegetical theological work. Because English cannot properly convey the emphasis Greek gives to certain words, word order, verbs meaning something quite different than English verbs (they are about ASPECT not time!) Because translators always have a bias, one way or another. Which you would realized had you spent years studying Greek and Hebrew, to say nothing of Hermeneutics.

God led me to study the original languages and it has helped me so much. If you can plough through the KJV, all power to you! I prefer either the languages the Bible was written in, or something in my own language, which I understand. Which I have been through here a thousand times.

Really, this whole comment is hilarious, since the Greek NT was written starting only 30 years after Christ died, by people who had witnessed Jesus’ life, death and resurrection. And Greek was so important in the spread of the gospel, because it was the lingua franca (common language) of the Roman Empire, which made it easy to communicate the gospel, no matter what the local language. KJV came 1500 years after the NT was finished being written, and of course, nearly 2000 years after the Hebrew Bible was complete. To say nothing of the fact that Early Modern English is a real turn off for people without Biblical knowledge. The language used in the KJV just makes Christianity seem old and dated.

I do agree it is nice to have the Bible in modern English. However that is not the topic of this thread. Please confine your comments to the topic?

Should we shut out false teachers, or should we greet false teachers with open arms?

Thanks!
 
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Should we shut out false teachers, or should we greet false teachers with open arms?
To me, to "shut out" means to shun, avoid reject.

According to the link, the Greek professor did not say to avoid or reject the person. What he did say was that we do not "publicly endorse and validate this false teaching".

The issue is the false teaching ... it is okay to respond with truth when we come across doctrine that is not Scripturally sound. We are instructed to preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine (2 Ti 4:2). And in 2 Ti 2:24-25 be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth. I know this last part is a bit of a challenge here on CC, but it should be a goal for each of us to be able to openly discuss the Word of the Father in a meaningful manner without stooping to the level of name-calling nonsense that seems to fill the pages of some very interesting threads.

I love how the professor ended his Daily Dose of Greek "May God help us to be people of both love and grace and people of truth that we may speak the truth in love". What a great goal!
 

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We can't logically equate "solid food" with "strong meat" by rationalizations.
Which is why the scripture says, "of full age" lest someone suppose that a babe quickly becomes full grown the moment teeth appear.

Milk refers to needing a mother to do the chewing and teaching for a babe.

The strong meat refers to being of full age, having one's own teeth, and then excercising them to rightly divide the word of God.

Veggies and bread do not require the strength strong meat does.
Note that not only is meat used in the metaphor but the word strong also so as to emphasis the need for full age strength and use to obtain the discernment of both good and evil.
And notice that the word "both" signifies that experience in each is needed lest we be imbalanced in our understanding.

"Solid food" weakens if not ruins the teaching.
From what I have seen it is acceptable to use both 'strong meat' and 'solid food'. I'm no Greek scholar and referring to Strong's definitions and some other Greek Lexicon. The word 'food' is most certainly part of its definition. And for the word 'strong' stereos in the Greek = strong, firm, immovable, solid, hard, rigid. So how about some immovable, hard, rigid meat? lol

I do not believe use of 'solid food' does not weaken nor ruin the teaching. I can say I understand the analogy used by saying 'solid food' In fact, out of all foods, when I imagine the analogy used, I have always seen someone chewing meat.

Sorry from deviating from the OP, Angela.
 
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Angela53510

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From what I have seen it is acceptable to use both 'strong meat' and 'solid food'. I'm no Greek scholar and referring to Strong's definitions and some other Greek Lexicon. The word 'food' is most certainly part of its definition. And for the word 'strong' stereos in the Greek = strong, firm, immovable, solid, hard, rigid. So how about some immovable, hard, rigid meat? lol

I do not believe use of 'solid food' does not weaken nor ruin the teaching. I can say I understand the analogy used by saying 'solid food' In fact, out of all foods, when I imagine the analogy used, I have always seen someone chewing meat.

Sorry from deviating from the OP, Angela.

I think there is a vast difference than one or two off topic posts, and someone totally trying to abduct the thread with ill-informed nonsense, over and over and over! LOL At least you were discussing Greek, too!
 

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According to this passage 2 John what makes a false teacher?

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 John 1:9-11, “Everyone who is transgressing and not staying in the teaching of Messiah does not possess YHWH The one who stays in the teaching of Messiah possesses both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house nor greet him, for he who greets him shares in his wicked works.”

His words His teaching...
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 -
[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]שָׁמַע[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey[/FONT][/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]
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From what I have seen it is acceptable to use both 'strong meat' and 'solid food'.
I'm amazed that there would be any dispute regarding this. Both terms mean the same thing, and refer to the more advanced doctrines of Christianity.
 
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From what I have seen it is acceptable to use both 'strong meat' and 'solid food'. I'm no Greek scholar and referring to Strong's definitions and some other Greek Lexicon. The word 'food' is most certainly part of its definition. And for the word 'strong' stereos in the Greek = strong, firm, immovable, solid, hard, rigid. So how about some immovable, hard, rigid meat? lol

I do not believe use of 'solid food' does not weaken nor ruin the teaching. I can say I understand the analogy used by saying 'solid food' In fact, out of all foods, when I imagine the analogy used, I have always seen someone chewing meat.

Sorry from deviating from the OP, Angela.
I would agree they all solid foods point towards meat used to represent the flesh as to what we see with our eyes it is typified by the veil it would seem to be the kind of food (spiritual) that the disciples knew not of.God working in men both to will and do His good pleasure spoken of in Philippians 2 .Our imputed righteousness the Christian's free will, free do his will as he works with us. Just as the father worked with the Son of man .

Then they went out of the city, and came unto him.In the mean while his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat.But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. Joh 4:30


To drink of His Spirit or drink in his Spirit would seem to represent the milk of the word it as a work of God teaches us he is gracious as it teaches us to deny worldly lukewarm things it encouraging us to do the good pleasure of His will.

The milk of the word reaches us he is gracious as food we did not work to receive

Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

We can water and plant his seed but he alone causes the growth .

When do we stop desiring as new born babes.. five feet six inches ? Adam was nearly 900 years and his body was still corrupted it returned to the dust from where it was formed of.

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;Tit 2:11

Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.


It represents the eternal land of milk and honey and again teaches us to not to eat to much honey or we could lose the little we think we have.

I would ask for prayer for that growth .And as always he must increase as we decrease.
 

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The teachings of Christ is about God (Truth). Those that remain in this teaching has the Truth.
Those without this teaching bare no Truth, and anything that is taught, or spoken, by them is full of deceptions. So do not greet such a messenger, for if you do, then you have already partaken to be attentive to the deceptions.

All deceptions are both untrue and the cause of all fears (greed, anger, etc), which evil thrives upon.
You might want to review 1 John 2 alongside with 2 John 1

It is very critical to remain Good luck to you
It is very critical to our salvation to remain in CHRIST and not to go out from HIM
 

miknik5

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I find that in text we sometimes misunderstand the motivation behind what is being posted. I believe it is important to remember that we are to love one another ESPECIALLY when we disagree.

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I think it’s important to remember that we were only supposed to teach THE GOSPEL as a witness testifying of JESUS
And not to go beyond that

babies need milk first and without the milk first they will not grow up into what they should have began in
just as 1 John 2 states be careful of what you began in
 

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It would seem he is identifying the kind of work that the spirit of the antichrist would bring. I don’t think it’s necessarily we don’t greet people who we have disagreement with. It is different if they insist that they have the truth and we must be taught by them. A red flag I would think would go up.

How could we greet them the next time seeing it would seem that have blasphemed the Spirit not seen. By insisting we need to seek their approval and not according to His loving commandment to study so we can seek the approval of one not seen.

They who insist they need to teach and not the Spirit of Christ that dwells in the believer have revealed themselves a workers with the antichrists.

Blasphemy will be forgiven of us if we do seek after their approval as that seen and find out we were following error .But Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit not seen, cannot be forgiven on their part . They are the kind of spirits of error that comes out by prayer and fasting (the work of the gospel)

The teaching in 2 John 1:11 is part of the warning found in 1 John.Three times he stresses antichrists.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, "even now" are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need "not" that "any man" teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide inhim. 1Jo 2:18-28
1 John 2 and 2 John 1 need to be read together. It is the very difference between those in CHRIST and those not in christ