2 John 1:11 Greeting Evil Teachers!

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Blain

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I have to admit that I am not kind to to false teachers.
This is because I know that God's love isn't unconditional.
So, since I love the sheep I can't abide the presence of wolves.
And because I love truth I hate the lies.

I'm curious to know if you posters know what the antichrist spirit is, and why it attacks certain scriptures.
One poster brought up the multitude of bible versions as though that phenomenon is of God.
And it seems as though there is either, a casual lack of concern in dealing with God's written word.

Do any of you believe that God's love is unconditional?
Sounds like a friendly notion don't you think?
If a teacher taught that at your church or assembly would you let it slide or what?
God's love is not unconditional? And you cannot abide being in the presence of the wolves? It's a good thing Jesus didn't have that kind of attitude or else many would have been left out of the kingdoms doors. Have you ever considered that perhaps God placed purposely placed you in the presence of the wolves to lead them to the gates of his kingdom?
 

Blain

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You know Angela I like that you can read and understand greek, if I could I would do the same. I actually made a post the other day in the misc. section how the word of God goes into an entirely new level if you read it in it's original languages. I cannot read and understand a whole lot of Hebrew or greek but what words I am able to look up I noticed how the words have a completely different aspect. The hebrew language especially intrigues me because their words are not simply words they have a very deep profound meaning to them even down to the sound one makes when speaking a certain word.

But as for greek that is not a language I have delved into much I want to figure out some way to teach my mind to be able to read and understand those languages but learning new languages has always been my greatest weakness, I can learn complicated math easier than I can learn a new language and I am horrible at math lol maybe I should get some kind of book called learning hebrew for the mentally handicapped lol
 

Joseppi

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Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. John 4:30

Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Lack of discernment means the inability to tell the difference. If we can't discern between both good and evil we can't discern the difference between the word of God and the word of man, and/or devil.
And that means we can't discern between true or false teachers.
And that leads to honoring evil teachers as if they were good.

I remind you that in the last days evil will be called good, and good will be called evil.
And if your eye isn't single then you will be in great darkness.

The word of God is a lamp unto our feet.
But, there are other lamps.
Brethren, the multitude of bible versions means there are a variety of lamps that shine. And that brings darkness into the assemblies of the saints and concedes ground to the enemy that seeks to blind us.

Not correctly understanding how to obtain discernment stunts the growth of the babes.

In John 4:30, Jesus defines meat as doing the will of God and finishing it.
This is why our meat is to be strong. Which isn't to say that other foods have no value and good use.
Without strong meat we will suffer a lack of discernment and will also fail to complete our understanding.

One who teaches truth appears troublesome, stern and inflexible to the babes and so they cry often, and easily.
And evil teachers prey upon the unskilled babes and approach them insincerely wearing sheep's clothing. We must not let that happen. And when the wolf in sheep's clothing comes we must bar the door, and not honor them lest the babes suppose them to be good.

I thank God that the sheep hear the voice of Jesus and not the voice of others.
 

Blain

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Lack of discernment means the inability to tell the difference. If we can't discern between both good and evil we can't discern the difference between the word of God and the word of man, and/or devil.
And that means we can't discern between true or false teachers.
And that leads to honoring evil teachers as if they were good.

I remind you that in the last days evil will be called good, and good will be called evil.
And if your eye isn't single then you will be in great darkness.

The word of God is a lamp unto our feet.
But, there are other lamps.
Brethren, the multitude of bible versions means there are a variety of lamps that shine. And that brings darkness into the assemblies of the saints and concedes ground to the enemy that seeks to blind us.

Not correctly understanding how to obtain discernment stunts the growth of the babes.

In John 4:30, Jesus defines meat as doing the will of God and finishing it.
This is why our meat is to be strong. Which isn't to say that other foods have no value and good use.
Without strong meat we will suffer a lack of discernment and will also fail to complete our understanding.

One who teaches truth appears troublesome, stern and inflexible to the babes and so they cry often, and easily.
And evil teachers prey upon the unskilled babes and approach them insincerely wearing sheep's clothing. We must not let that happen. And when the wolf in sheep's clothing comes we must bar the door, and not honor them lest the babes suppose them to be good.

I thank God that the sheep hear the voice of Jesus and not the voice of others.
Technically if we are talking about translations every bible that is not the original Hebrew and Greek would fit your description.
From I have seen in your words so far and granted I only just met you you appear to be intelligent and clearly treasure the truth but you lack proper understanding. I don't think you are ready to be a teacher of any sorts at least not yet, you have potential but not all are called to the same thing and if you attempt to do a calling you are not yet prepared for you will do more harm than good.
 

Joseppi

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Technically if we are talking about translations every bible that is not the original Hebrew and Greek would fit your description.
Thus, only the Holy Ghost was able to do the translation a complete the work of publishing the Holy Bible.
All other translations are of man or devil and are not authorized.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Thus, only the Holy Ghost was able to do the translation a complete the work of publishing the Holy Bible.
All other translations are of man or devil and are not authorized.

utter nonsense

you may have overlooked it, but this thread is not about your opinions on the King James

why take over someone else's thread? that's really rude

you can find many threads about your fav Bible already started...you can even make a new thread...but you have managed to really be obnoxious in this thread with both your comments and total disregard for the op

you are being noticed though if that was your intention :p
 

Blain

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Thus, only the Holy Ghost was able to do the translation a complete the work of publishing the Holy Bible.
All other translations are of man or devil and are not authorized.
I agree with seven seas that you should probably not take over this thread and I will if you wish discuss this topic with you but I do want to point out that while I may not have the best understanding of the original hebrew and greek I do know that if you compare the words in the holy bible as you call it to the orignal language their wordings and words are not the same and thus my point in my post above
 

davida

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Some ppl worship education more than the Bible. Since they read books about the Bible instead of it. The Holy Spirit is not their teacher instead men's opinion rules.

To understand the simplicity of the Gospel isn't enough because it doesn't feed their ego.

The expression is can t see the forest for the trees.

Like not even understanding for God do loved the world which disintegrated into an argument about definitions abt the word "world"

That attitude reflects the salvage ignorance of the debating if how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Some ppl worship education more than the Bible. Since they read books about the Bible instead of it. The Holy Spirit is not their teacher instead men's opinion rules.

To understand the simplicity of the Gospel isn't enough because it doesn't feed their ego.

The expression is can t see the forest for the trees.

Like not even understanding for God do loved the world which disintegrated into an argument about definitions abt the word "world"

That attitude reflects the salvage ignorance of the debating if how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
simply gobsmacked. really
 

Dino246

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One who teaches truth appears troublesome, stern and inflexible to the babes and so they cry often, and easily.
... and false teachers appear to those who do have discernment as stubborn, unteachable, and self-righteous. :)
 

ComeLordJesus

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You know Angela I like that you can read and understand greek, if I could I would do the same. I actually made a post the other day in the misc. section how the word of God goes into an entirely new level if you read it in it's original languages. I cannot read and understand a whole lot of Hebrew or greek but what words I am able to look up I noticed how the words have a completely different aspect. The hebrew language especially intrigues me because their words are not simply words they have a very deep profound meaning to them even down to the sound one makes when speaking a certain word.

But as for greek that is not a language I have delved into much I want to figure out some way to teach my mind to be able to read and understand those languages but learning new languages has always been my greatest weakness, I can learn complicated math easier than I can learn a new language and I am horrible at math lol maybe I should get some kind of book called learning hebrew for the mentally handicapped lol
Maybe they have a Hebrew for Dummies, I think they have just about everything in that series.
 

stonesoffire

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Maybe they have a Hebrew for Dummies, I think they have just about everything in that series.
There is now a complete translation of the Hebrew OT and NT. I have it and use it often. The Complete Jewish Bible. Inexpensive, sold on Amazon. Into English. Forgot to add this. So you could call it Hebrew for dummies. :)
 
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Some ppl worship education more than the Bible. Since they read books about the Bible instead of it. The Holy Spirit is not their teacher instead men's opinion rules.

To understand the simplicity of the Gospel isn't enough because it doesn't feed their ego.

The expression is can t see the forest for the trees.

Like not even understanding for God do loved the world which disintegrated into an argument about definitions abt the word "world"

That attitude reflects the salvage ignorance of the debating if how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Whenever I hear something like this, it's usually from a charismatic who puts more emphasis on 'hearing the Spirit' than what is already written.

True 'hearing theHoly Spirit' will always complement the Scriptures, not supersede it.

Anything else is another spirit entirely.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Whenever I hear something like this, it's usually from a charismatic who puts more emphasis on 'hearing the Spirit' than what is already written.

True 'hearing theHoly Spirit' will always complement the Scriptures, not supersede it.

Anything else is another spirit entirely.

and let's add, if you don't mind, you don't have to speak in tongues to hear or be led by the Holy Spirit

you know, while on the subject, (and I do believe in the gifts so that is not my gripe) I think quite a few people speaking in tongues may do so too much as in whatever comes into their heads after they have prayed, they think is God

discernment out the door because they think they are in a safe zone

ok...back to regular programming
 

Blain

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There is now a complete translation of the Hebrew OT and NT. I have it and use it often. The Complete Jewish Bible. Inexpensive, sold on Amazon. Into English. Forgot to add this. So you could call it Hebrew for dummies. :)
Wait really? Like it translated the actual hebrew letters and words? what is it called and how much is it? I am sooooo excited now:D
 

Blain

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Whenever I hear something like this, it's usually from a charismatic who puts more emphasis on 'hearing the Spirit' than what is already written.

True 'hearing theHoly Spirit' will always complement the Scriptures, not supersede it.

Anything else is another spirit entirely.
Like I said balance is key. Regardless of anyone's stance on the carnal and spiritual aspects without balance they both overplay themselves and it hinders
 

notuptome

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2 John 1:7 ¶ For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 ¶ If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

A great deal more care is to be exercised in whom we call brother or sister in the Lord. This is especially true when we have but a very casual knowledge of the person and their testimony for Christ.

Not everyone who comes to you saying bless you brother or sister is of God. Those who hold the truth of the word of God in reverence are worthy to be thought of as brothers and sisters in Christ or at least have the greatest prospect of such.

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Wait really? Like it translated the actual hebrew letters and words? what is it called and how much is it? I am sooooo excited now:D
Stones referred you to the Complete Jewish Bible.

You can read it online here:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/cjb/

https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Complete-Jewish-Bible-CJB/#booklist



FYI ...


Question: "What is the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)?"

Complete Jewish Bible - History

The Complete Jewish Bible was translated by David H. Stern, an Israel-based Messianic Jewish theologian. Published in 1998 by Jewish New Testament Publications, the CJB claims to be “Jewish in manner and presentation.” The names of the books are Jewish along with their English names (if different). Semitic names are used for people and places. It also incorporates Hebrew and Yiddish expressions that Stern refers to as “Jewish English.”

Complete Jewish Bible - Translation method
The Complete Jewish Bible Old Testament is a paraphrase of the 1917 Jewish Publication Society version of the Tanakh (also known as the Masoretic Text). The New Testament is an original translation from the ancient Greek. The CJB is a free translation, with Yiddish and modern Jewish cultural expressions. Stern claims his purpose for producing the Complete Jewish Bible was "to restore God’s Word to its original Jewish context and culture as well as be in easily read modern English."

Complete Jewish Bible - Pro’s and Con’s
Restoring the “Jewishness” of the Bible is a good thing. The Bible was written predominantly by Jews and to a Jewish audience. The Complete Jewish Bible should be commended for recognizing those facts. Overall, the CJB is a good and accurate translation of the Bible. It does tend to be very “free” in its renderings, sometimes interpreting instead of translating.

Complete Jewish Bible - Sample Verses
John 1:1, 14 – “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became a human being and lived with us, and we saw his Sh'khinah, the Sh'khinah of the Father's only Son, full of grace and truth.”

John 3:16 – “For God so loved the world that he gave his only and unique Son, so that everyone who trusts in him may have eternal life, instead of being utterly destroyed.”

John 8:58 – “Yeshua said to them, ‘Yes, indeed! Before Avraham came into being, I AM!’”

Ephesians 2:8-9 – “For you have been delivered by grace through trusting, and even this is not your accomplishment but God's gift. You were not delivered by your own actions; therefore no one should boast.”

Titus 2:13 – “while continuing to expect the blessed fulfillment of our certain hope, which is the appearing of the Sh'khinah of our great God and the appearing of our Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah.”

Recommended Resource: How to Choose a Translation for All Its Worth: A Guide to Understanding and Using Bible Versions by Gordon D. Fee & Mark L. Strauss

https://www.gotquestions.org/Complete-Jewish-Bible-CJB.html
 

miknik5

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The simplicity of THE GOSPEL?

The TRUTH of JESUS

The will of GOD?

Found in John 6


Believe it!
 

miknik5

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Some people talk too much and think their many words are wise words

some babies don’t say anythjng and they are wiser than their supposed teachers because the are fresh in HIS PRESENCE and have kept what they began in as THE BEST PART


Just like Matt as opposed to Martha

both were loved

but Mary was content to remain at HIS feet

to her, that was sooooooo sufficient

may it be sufficient for all of us
 
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