Sunday is catholic tradition.

[LoveGodForever]

Acts 2:46
Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts

We can meet together and worship God every day but God says in the 4th Commandment that the SEVENTH DAY is a HOLY DAY and we are not to do ANY WORK on this day.

GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT

Origin....

Genesis 2
1, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY, and made it HOLY <the 7th day>: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4th Commandment of the 10 that gives a KNOWLEDGE OF SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS (Romans 3:20; Ps 119:172)

Exodus 20
8, Remember the SABBATH DAY , to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day; He knew his professed people would forget it)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God : in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY : wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT

Breaking God's 4th Commandment is SIN just like breaking ANY of the 10 Commandments. SIN will keep ALL who practice it out of God's KINGDOM

 

[Waggles]

Here is why it matters Waggles:

Now about Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor. 16:1-2: they have nothing to do with the Sabbath. The Sabbath happens to be a sign of our being God's people. Ezekiel 20:12: "Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them." The word sign could mean mark.

Sign Strong's H226
אוֹת
'ôth
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Probably from H225 (in the sense of appearing); a signal (literally or figuratively), as a flag, beacon, monument, omen, prodigy, evidence, etc.: - mark, miracle, (en-) sign, token.

And here is why it doesn't matter as it did in the OT
The Jews were given a day of rest to put aside their
labours and work and to have the time to worship God.
And as a sign of their special covenant.

With Pentecost and the infilling of the Holy Spirit we
now have the refreshing that the 'Sabbath' represents.
We rest from our labours and our own efforts and can
now worship God in Spirit daily and often.
We have a new sign for our covenant with God.

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will
he speak to this people.
12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may
cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing:
yet they would not hear.
Isaiah 28:

also Hebrews 4:

 

[beta]

Wow what a ridiculous statement!

The first 'churches' were homes, so therefore the people who lived there worshipped 7 gods??

Didn't the Levites minister with sacrifices every day of every week and month and year? So, Judaism is 365 gods?

Whatever, beta. This is honestly one of the stupidest things i've ever seen you post.

I was talking (we were discussing) OFFICIAL Worship days...not what people do in their own homes which is private and personal. It may seem like rubbish to you but ''going to church'' you make an open declaration of WHO you worship !
WHEN did GOD declare SUNDAY as an official worship day INSTEAD or as well as SABBATH ???

Some of you think it makes no difference what you do and God will accept it...WRONG !!!

God sent whole Tribes into captivity as punishment for Sabbath-breaking, please read 2Kgs 17 ! and you will see that those who rebel against God are still held captive by the enemy. There is no discharge from this war unless they REPENT !
Acts 17v30 and the times of ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men everywhere to repent. that includes all you rebels here on CC...now is the time of correction...judgement is waiting at the door !

 

[Waggles]

God sent whole Tribes into captivity as punishment for Sabbath-breaking, please read 2Kgs 17 ! and you will see that those who rebel against God are still held captive by the enemy. There is no discharge from this war unless they REPENT !
Acts 17v30 and the times of ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men everywhere to repent. that includes all you rebels here on CC...now is the time of correction...judgement is waiting at the door !

Please no more gobbledegook doctrine -
that includes all you rebels here on CC...
now is the time of correction...judgement is waiting at the door !

If you are going to keep one rule or commandment of the Law
and insist on OT worship - then you better do all of it.

 

[Waggles]

 

[mailmandan]

The early Christians began to worship God on Sunday (the Lord's Day), because the first day of the week became associated with Christ's resurrection (Matthew 28:1-10; Luke 24:1; John 20:1; Revelation 1:10). We see from Acts 20:7 and I Corinthians 16:1-3 that the early Church gathered together on the first day of every week in order to "break bread," and also to take up a "collection for the saints."

Nowhere in the New Testament is the Church commanded to gather together to worship on the Jewish seventh day Sabbath. The Seventh-day Adventist church teaches that the Roman Catholic Church originated Christian worship on Sunday.

History records that the early Christians were worshipping on Sunday as far back as the first and second centuries A.D. For example:

"But every Lord's Day, gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, so that your sacrifice may be pure." (Didache c. 80-140)

"No longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day." (Ignatius, c. 105) Ignatius here reveals that the “Lord’s Day” is separate from the Jewish Sabbath.

"I will make a beginning of the eighth day, that is, a beginning of another world. For that reason, also, we keep the eighth day with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead." (Barnabas c. 70-130)

"And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read... But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God... made the world. And Jesus Christ our Savior rose from the dead on that same day." (Justin Martyr c. 160)

"There was no need of circumcision before Abraham. Nor was there need of the observance of Sabbaths, or of feasts and sacrifices, before Moses. Accordingly, there is no more need of them now." (Justin Martyr c. 160)

"We do not follow the Jews in their peculiarities in regard to food nor in their sacred days." (Tertullian c. 197)

"Just as the abolition of fleshly circumcision and of the old Law is demonstrated as having been consummated at its specific times, so also the observance of the Sabbath is demonstrated to have been temporary." (Tertullian c. 197)

"On the day of our Lord's resurrection, which is the Lord's Day, you should meet more diligently, sending praise to God who made the universe by Jesus... On this day, there is the reading of the Prophets, the preaching of the Gospel, the oblation of the sacrifice, and the gift of the holy food." (Apostolic Constitutions, compiled c.390)

 

[hornetguy]

I was talking (we were discussing) OFFICIAL Worship days...not what people do in their own homes which is private and personal. It may seem like rubbish to you but ''going to church'' you make an open declaration of WHO you worship !
WHEN did GOD declare SUNDAY as an official worship day INSTEAD or as well as SABBATH ???

Some of you think it makes no difference what you do and God will accept it...WRONG !!!

God sent whole Tribes into captivity as punishment for Sabbath-breaking, please read 2Kgs 17 ! and you will see that those who rebel against God are still held captive by the enemy. There is no discharge from this war unless they REPENT !
Acts 17v30 and the times of ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men everywhere to repent. that includes all you rebels here on CC...now is the time of correction...judgement is waiting at the door !

Out of curiosity, when did God declare Sabbath as a day of worship? Seems to me that He declared it a Holy day of REST.

I could be wrong, however, I do not study the Jewish rules and laws...... I am not UNDER the Jewish rules and laws. I am a part of the NEW covenant God made with us. Through my savior.

 

[mailmandan]

Out of curiosity, when did God declare Sabbath as a day of worship? Seems to me that He declared it a Holy day of REST.

I could be wrong, however, I do not study the Jewish rules and laws...... I am not UNDER the Jewish rules and laws. I am a part of the NEW covenant God made with us. Through my savior.

Beta seems to be more focused on things which are a mere shadow of what is to come, rather than the substance which belongs to Christ (Colossians 2:16-17).

Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations (Exodus 16:29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3,32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19; Isaiah 1:13; Jeremiah 17:21; Amos 8:5) was part of a covenant with Israel that is not binding on Christians under the New Covenant.

 

[Ralph-]

Out of curiosity, when did God declare Sabbath as a day of worship? Seems to me that He declared it a Holy day of REST.

I could be wrong...

“ ‘There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a sabbath to the Lord.-Leviticus 23:3

however, I do not study the Jewish rules and laws...... I am not UNDER the Jewish rules and laws. I am a part of the NEW covenant God made with us. Through my savior.

You could learn so much if you did read them, though.

You can thank the early Catholic church for making us spiritual morons by separating us from our old covenant roots. There is so much to glean from the old covenant that helps us understand the New.

 

[Ralph-]

Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations (Exodus 16:29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3,32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19; Isaiah 1:13; Jeremiah 17:21; Amos 8:5) was part of a covenant with Israel that is not binding on Christians under the New Covenant.

You have to be more specific. Binding on us for the purpose of justification? Or binding on us as to that which constitutes the work that flows from love for and faith in God? You won't find many law keepers who believe the former, but lot's of law keepers who believe the second. The problem being, the church can ONLY understand law keepers as being in the first group and can not conceive that a person can be in the second group. That's OUR problem, not theirs.

 

[mailmandan]

You have to be more specific. Binding on us for the purpose of justification? Or binding on us as to that which constitutes the work that flows from love for and faith in God? You won't find many law keepers who believe the former, but lot's of law keepers who believe the second. The problem being, the church can ONLY understand law keepers as being in the first group and can not conceive that a person can be in the second group. That's OUR problem, not theirs.

The Church is not under the law and that is the problem with law keepers. Show me under the New Covenant where keeping the Sabbath day is binding on the Church in any regard.

 

[Depleted]

IF you went to church on sunday as well as on saturday you would indeed be worshipping two different Gods/gods. The God of the Bible has only ONE day and it is the Sabbath officially !!!
If you feel the need to worship on sunday do so privately at home.

Yes, because heaven forbid we worship God more than once a week, and dagnabit that once a week has to be on a Saturday, with church-going included. If you worship him any other time, for heaven's sake, do it in private for fear you might get caught!

(This is too funny. I can't make this stuff up.)

 

[Depleted]

Thanks!
Rest from working. Does that include cooking, laundry, anything?

Can you rest and cook and do laundry at the same time?

And, if you can, come on over! I could use you around here. lol

 

[Depleted]

You are of course right when it comes to 2 of GOD's holy days together. ..but we were discussing saturday and sunday which are not both holy to God.

Oi vey! You really have to get a handle on what holy means.

 

[Depleted]

Tell it to God !

God already knows. You're the one working without a clue.

 

[Depleted]

Acts 2:46

Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts

Shame on them. They should have been hiding at home, if they had any unction to worship God when it wasn't Saturday!

 

[Depleted]

Sunday is NOT and never will be the Sabbath. If one desires to observe the Sabbath it must be done on Friday night and Saturday. There is NO MANDATE for the Church to meet on Sunday. It is NOT Mandatory for Gentile believers to observe the Sabbath. Sunday is traditionally observed for Christian fellowship and worship in commemoration of both the resurrection and the indwelling Holy Spirit.

You too?

I'm thinking the fourth commandment still holds, but we'd want to because God tells us to.

And I'm thinking no doctor can join your denomination, unless she/he is Gentile.

 

[Depleted]

And here is why it doesn't matter as it did in the OT
The Jews were given a day of rest to put aside their
labours and work and to have the time to worship God.
And as a sign of their special covenant.

With Pentecost and the infilling of the Holy Spirit we
now have the refreshing that the 'Sabbath' represents.
We rest from our labours and our own efforts and can
now worship God in Spirit daily and often.
We have a new sign for our covenant with God.

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will
he speak to this people.
12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may
cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing:
yet they would not hear.
Isaiah 28:

also Hebrews 4:

Curious, do you think land doesn't need to rest either, now that we have a new world order? As in, keep growing your beans on the same ground year after year. It just doesn't matter anymore because Pentecost changed everything. Or, go ahead and work your animals every day of the week. That too no longer matters, since Pentecost changed everything.

And I'm asking because it wasn't just Man needing Sabbath rest. The animals and ground itself needed rest.

 

[Johnny_B]

After reading the posts above that i posted can you still believe that Sunday is inspired by God or man. Sun worship baptized into the church.

If you are saying that those that chose to honor the Lord in Sunday are worshiping the Sun, then those that chose to honor the Lord on Saturn worship. You as well as I know that those that chose Saturday are not worshipping Saturn as well as those that chose Sunday are not worshipping the Sun.

IMHO, the claims and assertions of the Catholic church have little or nothing to do with the fact that most Christians worship on Sunday in 2018. In the same way, whatever practices that Catholics share with Christians don't come to us from the Catholic church, but directly from Scripture.

The first reason, based in Scripture, is that the early Christians often gathered on "the Lord's day" which is the equivalent of Sunday.

The second reason is that via church tradition, Sunday was considered the Sabbath (incorrectly) and became a standard day off work. Now most business happens between Monday and Friday and Sunday is not considered a "business day". Therefore it is convenient for most people to gather on a Sunday.

Given that worship on Sunday is nowhere proscribed in Scripture, I don't see the need to make an issue of it. Worship on whatever day works for you. Worship every day.

I agree, Roman 14:5-9 “One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God.7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself.8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's.9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.”

The Lord's Day or the day He was resurrected, which we know is Sunday. Matthew 28:1 “Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb.”
Mark 16:1-2 “When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him.2 And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb.”
Luke 24:1-3 “But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices they had prepared.2 And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb,3 but when they went in they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.”
John 20:1 “Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.”

Now those that hold to a Saturday worship also believe that the Lord was resurrected on the Sabbath as well because all four accounts say and it was "the first day of the week" which according to them He had to of resurrected on the Sabbath. They place the emphasis is on it being "the first day of the week" the way I understand it (those with this belief will correct me, thanks in advance) since it is the first day He could of only rose on the Sabbath. Here is where the problem is, Matthew has, "toward the dawn," Mark has, "when the sun had risen," Luke has, "at early dawn," and John has, "while it was still dark."

Yes they all came as the Sabbath had past, but they came a full or close to 12 hours after the Sabbath had past, since the Sabbath was over at 6 P.M. Saturday evening and all four accounts are recorded in the morning of the firat day of the week. If there were no account of this and they all simpley point to early on the first day of the week we could say that it was recording the women coming to the Tomb right after the Sabbath was over, but it doesn't do that, it records them waiting until the morning of the first day of the week which means that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, some time before 6 A.M. which is around the time the women were showing up at the Tomb. Mary Magdalene was the first one to show up to the Tomb John 20:1, "it was still dark," the rest of the accounts were, "at early dawn" then "very early" and "toward the dawn". With all of these accounts we know that the Holy Spirit is telling us that the Lord was raised some time before the Mary came to the Tomb, some 12 hours after the end of the Sabbath, if the Lord had been raise on the Sabbath Mary would of come to the Tomb immeditaely after 6 P.M. that would verify that He had been raised before 6 P.M. or on the Sabbath, but they did not, so He did not.

This is why those that chose to worship on Sunday do so in honor of the Lord being raised from the died. Paul taught on that day and the disciples broken bread on that day as well, Acts 20:7 “Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight.”

I Corinthians 16:1-2 “[FONT=&quot]Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also:[/FONT]2 [FONT=&quot]On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.”
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We have three witnesses for the firstday of the week for His ressurection, braking bread, teaching/preahing and the collection of offerings on the first day of the week. One from the Gospels, one from the book of Acts and one from the epistles.

most people have BOTH Sat and Sunday off work unless they work retail, hospital, police, etc.

i believe folks should worship God EVERY DAY of the week and gather together for prayer and study as much as God gives them a chance to meet with fellow believers.

personally God has blessed me to fellowship and pray with folks daily and I hope He continues to allow it.

Amen!!! Sister what a blessing to be able to fellowship every day with believers, my prayer is that some day I could do that as well. We should worship the Lord every day of our lives to honor Him in all we do daily. Worship to the Lord is not just being taught, singing hymns and songs of praise to His holy name, it is in giving, evangelism, visiting the sick, those in prison, orphans, widows and helping the poor in the household of the faith to name a few.

 

[beta]

Shame on them. They should have been hiding at home, if they had any unction to worship God when it wasn't Saturday!

So in your opinion they should show the whole world they worship baal the sungod...shame on them !