Jesus, King of the Jews

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JaumeJ

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The posting is going way off OP meaning.

Please reread it if you have gone behond the title..yet.
 

JaumeJ

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​Here you go. Try reading all of it......then reply.

Why do so many believe Jesus Christ was teacing and spreding His gospel in Greek?


It is possible He spoke in Greek, but very doubtful since had the hypocrites heard Him
teaching the Hebrew Word in Greek they would have stoned Him.

Yes there are many, perhaps most, manuscripts in K. Greek, but where did they come
from since the first believers for about a centurey were taught from the Hebrew writings,
that is the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings,.


It would be like studying the founding fathers of the US or any given country in a foreign
tongue, say Chinese....

I believe much was destroyed by the Roman leaders due to their own anti-semetism.

It seem to me a very large persentage of people who balk at our Hebrew forfathers and history
are nothing more or less than being anti-semites.

No you do not need to read Hebrew or dress like some over zealous Rabbinically taught Jew, but at
the same time o not deny Jesus, Yeshua.

After all when it comes down to it, Jew as Judah may be translated as a praiser of God, and there cannot
be anything wrong with this.

No one is able to say with anything approaching certainty that all of the New Testament was written in Greek exclusively,
except perhaps the letters of Paul, and even that is not 100%.

If you do not like Jesus having walked the earth as a Jew, then you probably do not believe much of what He teaches.
 

graceNpeace

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You yet have to actually understand teh OP. Prhaps reading it agains would help .
Rubbish - I have read the whole thing several times...

Your opening gambit, "Why do so many believe Jesus Christ was teacing and spreding His gospel in Greek?", goes off the rails right there!
Who are the "so many"?
I know of no believers who believe this!
In fact I know of no one, believer or not, who does not understand that Jesus was a Jew....

So everything that follows is exactly what I said it was - a great big straw-man...
Especially the anti-Semite angle - this is a classic Hebrew Roots accusation!
 

graceNpeace

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YOu know what, when you were five years old I was studyiing the Word. By the time your were eight years old I had shared the Word with all who would listen in at least three of the United States and over a dozen countries.

I do not like to reveal all for many reasons, mainly I do not want to be sanctimonious as you say I am, so I will not mention the works that came about nor the miracles not he healins nor the gifts of knowledge and so much more......

You keep telling those in the trenches that it is sanctimonious to mention this, and I will know even better with what I am dealing. Young man.......you have messaging capabiity, you shouldhave used that first in private before making a public spectacle of yourself......shame.
Again - highly sanctimonious!

If you think your age automatically trumps any argument then you have a problem.
As for me: I don't care whether you are 37 or 73 years old - I care about the merits of what you post, and that is lacking.

This entire thread is just a gigantic straw-man...
 
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Aramaic and Hebrew are similar enough that probably many religiously inclined common people could have understood at least a little Hebrew, but they did not know it well enough to be conversant in it. That's why they had targumists (interpreter) in the synagogues. There someone would read one or 3 verses of scripture in Hebrew and a targumist would interpret what was read in Aramaic for the audience's sake, That pattern is seen when Jesus read in the synagogue. Either he was reading from the Septuagint in Greek, or he was reading in Hebrew and acting as his own Aramaic targumist.
 

JaumeJ

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There you go with that Strine again. My command is of the Mid-Atlantic English created for broadcast in England and the US.....
I think you shuold go now. Perhaps I will.

Rubbish - I have read the whole thing several times...

Your opening gambit, "Why do so many believe Jesus Christ was teacing and spreding His gospel in Greek?", goes off the rails right there!
Who are the "so many"?
I know of no believers who believe this!
In fact I know of no one, believer or not, who does not understand that Jesus was a Jew....

So everything that follows is exactly what I said it was - a great big straw-man...
Especially the anti-Semite angle - this is a classic Hebrew Roots accusation!
 

JaumeJ

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You continually underscore you lack of learning from the Word.

Again - highly sanctimonious!

If you think your age automatically trumps any argument then you have a problem.
As for me: I don't care whether you are 37 or 73 years old - I care about the merits of what you post, and that is lacking.

This entire thread is just a gigantic straw-man...
 

graceNpeace

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There you go with that Strine again. My command is of the Mid-Atlantic English created for broadcast in England and the US.....
I think you shuold go now. Perhaps I will.
This reply has nothing to do with my post!

And, as an aside, I was neither born nor educated in Australia, and do not speak "strine"!
 

JaumeJ

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This post of mine has all to do with your earlier boasting of your great command of the English language over my own...... Do you not recall what you have posted?

As for not dealing with your post, I can do soonly when you demonstrate you understand the OP. Until that moment I cannot have a fair dialogue since it is only I maintaining the thread.


This reply has nothing to do with my post!

And, as an aside, I was neither born nor educated in Australia, and do not speak "strine"!
 

graceNpeace

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This post of mine has all to do with your earlier boasting of your great command of the English language over my own...... Do you not recall what you have posted?

As for not dealing with your post, I can do soonly when you demonstrate you understand the OP. Until that moment I cannot have a fair dialogue since it is only I maintaining the thread.
You must have short term memory loss!!!

YOU are the one that challenged my command of English - not the other way around!

And, I understand your OP perfectly, and it is exactly what I said before - A great big straw-man!!!
I have even provided two very good reasons why it is a straw-man in a previous post...
 

JaumeJ

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You have yet to address the actual congtent of my OP, instead you have maligned my character
on at least three occasions in your posting.......

Please read a book on civility and interaction with others before claiming grae and peace.....it dos not show in your posts, not at all.

Let me get back to what Jesus teaches us about our forgathers, you do know what He teaches on this subject and how we are of the faith of Abraham, right??


You must have short term memory loss!!!

YOU are the one that challenged my command of English - not the other way around!

And, I understand your OP perfectly, and it is exactly what I said before - A great big straw-man!!!
I have even provided two very good reasons why it is a straw-man in a previous post...
 

graceNpeace

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You have yet to address the actual congtent of my OP, instead you have maligned my character
on at least three occasions in your posting.......

Please read a book on civility and interaction with others before claiming grae and peace.....it dos not show in your posts, not at all.

Let me get back to what Jesus teaches us about our forgathers, you do know what He teaches on this subject and how we are of the faith of Abraham, right??
I have addressed your OP!
I quote: "Rubbish - I have read the whole thing several times...

Your opening gambit, "Why do so many believe Jesus Christ was teacing and spreding His gospel in Greek?", goes off the rails right there!
Who are the "so many"?
I know of no believers who believe this!
In fact I know of no one, believer or not, who does not understand that Jesus was a Jew....

So everything that follows is exactly what I said it was - a great big straw-man...
Especially the anti-Semite angle - this is a classic Hebrew Roots accusation!
" from post #25.

Your tactics are just misdirection...
 

JaumeJ

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Nice cut and paste, but payingattention to the content would help a lot. G'day.
 

graceNpeace

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Nice cut and paste, but payingattention to the content would help a lot. G'day.
Just because you do not like what I said does NOT mean I do not understand the content of the OP!
You can keep this false accusation going all day but it won't change the fact that your OP is full of dubious propositions....
 

JaumeJ

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I am still going over Grace and Peace's "rubbish", Sanctimonious," "blinkered," and other just plain old insiuations.

These have my mind too occupied to hear anything a person leveling such words would ever have to say about the Word of God......go ahead in all that grae and peace you are spreading.......

It is very unlikely Jesus Christ spoke to the sheep of His original flock in Greek.. Think about it if it is not too much for you , and do not come back with the huiman traditions of your intellectual endeabor. You will not be able to approach the Father as an intellectual or His equal in understanding..........

Perhaps you believe we should also study the OT& in Greek...your reasoning points to such. Why not just try to be a little bit uinderstanding of history according to God's will and not the dictates of Jew-hating ecclesiastica?


Just because you do not like what I said does NOT mean I do not understand the content of the OP!
You can keep this false accusation going all day but it won't change the fact that your OP is full of dubious propositions....
 

mailmandan

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Just because you do not like what I said does NOT mean I do not understand the content of the OP! You can keep this false accusation going all day but it won't change the fact that your OP is full of dubious propositions....
How can you take someone seriously who posts this? :eek:

Now you go ahead and learn of Paul and do all you think you learn of him, but I TELL YOU according to the Word that learning of Jesus Christ is the easiest manner to follow Him. He invites all to learn of Him but most refuse choosing traditions of man over the Word. Go ahead, make your life complicated by learning Paul, but be sure to satisfy others on all of his contradictions,.

I find none in Jesus Christ's teaching, no contradictions just salvation....go ahead.