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Mark 13:
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory
This is the part that is easy to see. You have the subject of Christ return here..
Acts 1:11
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Mark 13:
1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
( note that the west wall of the temple still stands to this very day .The wall also gos down into the foundation underground. They are massive stones. )
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,
4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
They are asking Him to tell them, about when is the end of the world and His return.
They are then taught seven, signs , that would consumate then end of the age & Christ return to this earth . In verse 19 Christ tells us of the significance these events:
19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. ( A roman general Titus did not fulfill this )
When you get into the Seven events Christ teaches, it starts to then come together ;God's plan for these end days. You can even aline, the seven signs you watch for, to come to pass: They aline with the seven seals written of in the Book of Revelation also. From top to bottom.
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The first warning Christ gives is about Deception and people coming in His name that shall deceive many: Christians . He didn't say maybe, but He said there would be a lot.. Later gets into a specific one, false Christ.
The first seal given in Revelation, is of a rider on a white horse. But the bow, he has shining around him is fake...
Not to be confused with Christ, in Revelation 19 ::
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
The first seal given in Revelation, is of a rider on a white horse. But the bow, he has shining around him is fake...
Not to be confused with Christ, in Revelation 19 ::
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
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Because its written . So its going to happen exactly as its written to the letter. :
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
Because of the subject matter , and the nature of what Christ is talking to them about. It's not spelled out just plainly in English in those First few verses, but that's Why we have to continue reading.. The subject revolves around Christ return, and as its written When Christ returns to this earth, it is the end of this way of life. That's it; that Is the end
Will the signs in the heavens be literal ? I think there will be, and I think, the appearance of Christ, will just take peoples attention from the sun, it will seem as though nothing else is there. So it can be looked at in that way also.
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
Because of the subject matter , and the nature of what Christ is talking to them about. It's not spelled out just plainly in English in those First few verses, but that's Why we have to continue reading.. The subject revolves around Christ return, and as its written When Christ returns to this earth, it is the end of this way of life. That's it; that Is the end
Will the signs in the heavens be literal ? I think there will be, and I think, the appearance of Christ, will just take peoples attention from the sun, it will seem as though nothing else is there. So it can be looked at in that way also.
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Jesus told of a coming of judgement upon that generation.
Similar to other past judgements of nations.
Jesus also told of his second coming.
Since we're almost 2000 years removed we miss the distinction.
That generation was judged in ad 70 in Jerusalem.
We're still waiting for his second coming to restore creation and raise dead bodies etc.
Jesus didn't lie. It's just that many have misinterpreted what Jesus said.
Similar to other past judgements of nations.
Jesus also told of his second coming.
Since we're almost 2000 years removed we miss the distinction.
That generation was judged in ad 70 in Jerusalem.
We're still waiting for his second coming to restore creation and raise dead bodies etc.
Jesus didn't lie. It's just that many have misinterpreted what Jesus said.
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We have to listen to All of what Christ said there. I already,, posted the scripture just below. Don't read over it.
I already informed you those stones of the temple still stand today; Christ said, Not One stone left. Not to mention all the heathen things there today.
But the place will be destroyed at Christ return ( When will it occur? Once Christ's foot touches this earth Zechariah 14:4; ) ( I gave the scriptures for Mark 13 below )
Zechariah 14:4
King James Version
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Like I said , a Christian must read and study the seven signs, Christ gave there. Revelation Must also be studied in conjunction with All His other teachings... There is not much more I can really talk about farther, if you believe this is not about His return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords to Rule all Nations with rod of iron.
I already informed you those stones of the temple still stand today; Christ said, Not One stone left. Not to mention all the heathen things there today.
But the place will be destroyed at Christ return ( When will it occur? Once Christ's foot touches this earth Zechariah 14:4; ) ( I gave the scriptures for Mark 13 below )
Zechariah 14:4
King James Version
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Like I said , a Christian must read and study the seven signs, Christ gave there. Revelation Must also be studied in conjunction with All His other teachings... There is not much more I can really talk about farther, if you believe this is not about His return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords to Rule all Nations with rod of iron.
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I don't need long explanation about your position that its Past tense: I know you believe this is past tense. You have already made that clear in your other post ((( Yet your mentioning the end of the age? ))). I thought you wanted to just focus on the seven things Christ mentions ? I can't leave the book of Revelation out of Christ teachings, they go hand in hand. Christ also gave seven signs, but you have less then that listed ? : / From our other discussions its not easy to talk about this with you in the forums. In the future if you would like to talk about this, it an only be in the chat rooms with voice.
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Okay , maybe we can talk about this another day. But I dont have the patience to take the time and make sure its not confusing in the forums tonight . But I can talk better and not kill my fingers in the possess in the Chat room. I probably wont discuss this farther in the forums with you . I might refer you to a Bible study vid if you like one day .
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