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How many of you heard of the argument that H2O, Ice, and Steam are all of the same and are equal to make the case for the Trinity?
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What about the 3 lights? Lol
Well this is another spin on my case in understanding the Trinity and how the 3 components of the Trinity are all equal and of the same.
Any of you ever done any acting in your life? Doesn't matter if it was Broadway or a school play lol, at the end of it there's one person who gets credit for a character that was played and that's the actor. How many times have you seen a film where one actor plays numerous roles in one film? Jim Carrey did so in "Man on the Moon" a Bio pic about Andy Kaufman. He played Andy Kaufman & he played Tony Clifton. He also played 2 characters early in his career in one film "The Mask".
Now I have a question, are the characters Jim plays seperately different people?
No. Andy Kaufman was Tony Clifton, Tony Clifton was Andy Kaufman, Jim Carrey was both in the film. Without Jim Carrey the characters would not have a source to be actual living figures with in the film. So take it like this the life we live is the movie and ofcourse we the creations are the extras. God is the source that is going to give Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit life to become living characters with in this film we the extras know as life.
I know you want to see proof of Jesus claiming this
So let's look at
John 5:17-19 ESV
But Jesus answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I am working." This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.
As you can see Jesus Christ is stating that God the Father is doing his works through him the son. Jesus can be looked at as the character & God the Father who is the actor in this film called "Life". The only thing is the character recognizes that he is a role to which God the Father is playing out and through this role he is accomplishing his will. Let's look at some other verses where Jesus makes himself equal to God the Father
John 10:28-30 ESV
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."
Now here you see Jesus (the role/character) holding his weight and letting you know what he can do and not only does he state what he can do he tells you right at the end as to why he can do what he has been doing, because he is one with the Father, he the role/character is not seperate from the actor with out the actor (God the Father) the role can not be played.
The evidence of the roles as to God plays with in the Bible is very over whelming like when Jesus gets baptised or like it is explained with in these words that can be found in
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
As you can see what the "Spirit" one of many roles is. Aswell the flesh is Jesus Christ and God remains God, with in these few words you can see how everything in this plot plays out and how God is able to show how great he and powerful he is. God plays himself as the actor who manifests into the Flesh/character known as Jesus of Nazareth or better yet Jesus Christ, in which he also plays the "Spirit" that vindicates that God is Jesus Christ. Its a complex plot but its all intertwines with itself.
So after reading about Jesus Christ now in going to list all the roles God plays through the Holy Spirit and even in these verses it explains further more the Trinity let's see if you can pick up on it.
The roles of the Holy Spirit
The Divine:
Acts 2:1-4 ESV
When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Creates Christian character:
Galatians 5:22-26 ESV
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
Gives Gifts:
1 Corinthians 12:4-11 ESV
Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
Gives Victory Over the Flesh:
Jude 1:20-23 ESV
But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ that leads to eternal life. And have mercy on those who doubt; save others by snatching them out of the fire; to others show mercy with fear, hating even the garment stained by the flesh.
Gives Physical Strength:
Judges 14:5-6 ESV
Then Samson went down with his father and mother to Timnah, and they came to the vineyards of Timnah. And behold, a young lion came toward him roaring. Then the Spirit of the Lord rushed upon him, and although he had nothing in his hand, he tore the lion in pieces as one tears a young goat. But he did not tell his father or his mother what he had done.
Judges 14:19 ESV
And the Spirit of the Lord rushed upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon and struck down thirty men of the town and took their spoil and gave the garments to those who had told the riddle. In hot anger he went back to his father's house.
Enables Man to Receive Divine Revelation:
Numbers 11:25 ESV
Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to him, and took some of the Spirit that was on him and put it on the seventy elders. And as soon as the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied. But they did not continue doing it.
2 Samuel 23:2 ESV
"The Spirit of the Lord speaks by me;
his word is on my tongue.
Acts 2:18 ESV
even on my male servants and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
Empowers the servants of God:
Psalm 51:12 ESV
Restore to me the joy of your salvation,
and uphold me with a willing spirit.
Joel 2:28-29 ESV
"And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh;
your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
and your young men shall see visions.
Even on the male and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit.
Micah 3:8 ESV
But as for me, I am filled with power,
with the Spirit of the Lord,
and with justice and might,
to declare to Jacob his transgression
and to Israel his sin.
Zechariah 4:6 ESV
Then he said to me, "This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of hosts.
That last verse is powerful read up on John 1:1-4 and compare the verses you will see total proof of the Trinity.
At the end of the day God receives all the glory (credit) even though he presents or plays many different roles and without him the roles/characters he plays they are nothing without God. I've heard it doesn't matter how big or small your role is just matters how powerful that role was played. God plays the performances of eternity to show us his creations how powerful loving amazing perfect he is and what we mean to him. If you still can't understand how the Trinity exist or works or how they are all equal after this my final advice is pray on in the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen. God bless you and Peace be unto you All.
-or-
What about the 3 lights? Lol
Well this is another spin on my case in understanding the Trinity and how the 3 components of the Trinity are all equal and of the same.
Any of you ever done any acting in your life? Doesn't matter if it was Broadway or a school play lol, at the end of it there's one person who gets credit for a character that was played and that's the actor. How many times have you seen a film where one actor plays numerous roles in one film? Jim Carrey did so in "Man on the Moon" a Bio pic about Andy Kaufman. He played Andy Kaufman & he played Tony Clifton. He also played 2 characters early in his career in one film "The Mask".
Now I have a question, are the characters Jim plays seperately different people?
No. Andy Kaufman was Tony Clifton, Tony Clifton was Andy Kaufman, Jim Carrey was both in the film. Without Jim Carrey the characters would not have a source to be actual living figures with in the film. So take it like this the life we live is the movie and ofcourse we the creations are the extras. God is the source that is going to give Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit life to become living characters with in this film we the extras know as life.
I know you want to see proof of Jesus claiming this
So let's look at
John 5:17-19 ESV
But Jesus answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I am working." This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.
As you can see Jesus Christ is stating that God the Father is doing his works through him the son. Jesus can be looked at as the character & God the Father who is the actor in this film called "Life". The only thing is the character recognizes that he is a role to which God the Father is playing out and through this role he is accomplishing his will. Let's look at some other verses where Jesus makes himself equal to God the Father
John 10:28-30 ESV
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."
Now here you see Jesus (the role/character) holding his weight and letting you know what he can do and not only does he state what he can do he tells you right at the end as to why he can do what he has been doing, because he is one with the Father, he the role/character is not seperate from the actor with out the actor (God the Father) the role can not be played.
The evidence of the roles as to God plays with in the Bible is very over whelming like when Jesus gets baptised or like it is explained with in these words that can be found in
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
As you can see what the "Spirit" one of many roles is. Aswell the flesh is Jesus Christ and God remains God, with in these few words you can see how everything in this plot plays out and how God is able to show how great he and powerful he is. God plays himself as the actor who manifests into the Flesh/character known as Jesus of Nazareth or better yet Jesus Christ, in which he also plays the "Spirit" that vindicates that God is Jesus Christ. Its a complex plot but its all intertwines with itself.
So after reading about Jesus Christ now in going to list all the roles God plays through the Holy Spirit and even in these verses it explains further more the Trinity let's see if you can pick up on it.
The roles of the Holy Spirit
The Divine:
Acts 2:1-4 ESV
When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Creates Christian character:
Galatians 5:22-26 ESV
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
Gives Gifts:
1 Corinthians 12:4-11 ESV
Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
Gives Victory Over the Flesh:
Jude 1:20-23 ESV
But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ that leads to eternal life. And have mercy on those who doubt; save others by snatching them out of the fire; to others show mercy with fear, hating even the garment stained by the flesh.
Gives Physical Strength:
Judges 14:5-6 ESV
Then Samson went down with his father and mother to Timnah, and they came to the vineyards of Timnah. And behold, a young lion came toward him roaring. Then the Spirit of the Lord rushed upon him, and although he had nothing in his hand, he tore the lion in pieces as one tears a young goat. But he did not tell his father or his mother what he had done.
Judges 14:19 ESV
And the Spirit of the Lord rushed upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon and struck down thirty men of the town and took their spoil and gave the garments to those who had told the riddle. In hot anger he went back to his father's house.
Enables Man to Receive Divine Revelation:
Numbers 11:25 ESV
Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke to him, and took some of the Spirit that was on him and put it on the seventy elders. And as soon as the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied. But they did not continue doing it.
2 Samuel 23:2 ESV
"The Spirit of the Lord speaks by me;
his word is on my tongue.
Acts 2:18 ESV
even on my male servants and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
Empowers the servants of God:
Psalm 51:12 ESV
Restore to me the joy of your salvation,
and uphold me with a willing spirit.
Joel 2:28-29 ESV
"And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh;
your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
and your young men shall see visions.
Even on the male and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit.
Micah 3:8 ESV
But as for me, I am filled with power,
with the Spirit of the Lord,
and with justice and might,
to declare to Jacob his transgression
and to Israel his sin.
Zechariah 4:6 ESV
Then he said to me, "This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of hosts.
That last verse is powerful read up on John 1:1-4 and compare the verses you will see total proof of the Trinity.
At the end of the day God receives all the glory (credit) even though he presents or plays many different roles and without him the roles/characters he plays they are nothing without God. I've heard it doesn't matter how big or small your role is just matters how powerful that role was played. God plays the performances of eternity to show us his creations how powerful loving amazing perfect he is and what we mean to him. If you still can't understand how the Trinity exist or works or how they are all equal after this my final advice is pray on in the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen. God bless you and Peace be unto you All.
