This is just my take on explaining the Holy Trinity

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Nov 19, 2012
5,484
27
0
#62
So you chose to ignore Isaiah 7:14 ?
Isa calls The Son Heavenly Father...you fell silent PDQ on that one...



Why don't you google " Islams view on the trinity " it will tell you what god (Allah) Muslims worship!! It's the same as ours,the god of Abraham,the god of moses!!!
Why would I need to 'google' something that I already spent researching in the original Koranic Arabic for the past two decades...?

You are utterly clueless...
 
Nov 19, 2012
5,484
27
0
#63
Nov 19, 2012
5,484
27
0
#64
This is why I find the whole trinity thing so hard to understand,that Jesus would worship himself,that Jesus would refer to God as " my father " and "our lord" if he was referring to himself ?
Jesus did not pray to Himself.

You are fighting a straw-man of your very own creation.

You still can't bring yourself to even state what you think The Trinity is...



I understand you belive he was the manifestation of God on earth,as a man,and as he was Gods son he is equal to Him,I'm not being disrespectful of your views,It just don't make sence for Jesus to be God,why would an omnipresent GOD need to manifest on earth as human? He can achieve anything he needs to as GOD,He don't need to become a man,if ever there was a time God may of wanted to be on earth as a human wouldn't of that been during the exodus when Gods chosen people were in such peril ? Or during the 2nd world war when Millions of Jews were being tourtured and killed?
God was in human form on earth in Exodus...He was called Malek Yahweh at that time.

More ignorance on your part...
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
#65
The Trinity IS One God.
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.
 
Aug 29, 2015
184
0
0
#66
Two decades and you still say Muslims don't worship the same God as Christians and Jews? Come on then,humour me,what God do Muslims worship? What God do jews worship? Is it some God I've never heard of? Are not Islam,Judaism and Christianity all abrahamic religions?
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
#67
Two decades and you still say Muslims don't worship the same God as Christians and Jews? Come on then,humour me,what God do Muslims worship? What God do jews worship? Is it some God I've never heard of? Are not Islam,Judaism and Christianity all abrahamic religions?

Christians and Jews worship the same God. Muslims worship allah,different name,different god.
 
Aug 29, 2015
184
0
0
#68
Hmmm,I think not but you know what,I'd love you to instruct me if you have the time and patients,I've just looked up Makek Yahweh,you obviously know what your talking about,I apologise if I have offended you in any way with my ignorance,I have read a lot on the internet about the three main religions mainly to find out how much they agree on and how many very small differences there are between the three,I'm also interested in the differences between Christian faiths like my own,prodestant and what I'm assuming is yours,catholic,again,I hope I haven't offended you,I truly thought Islam was the revelations given to mohammed by GOD,the jewish and Christian GOD,and written down in the Koran.
 

jb

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2010
4,940
589
113
#69
Christians and Jews worship the same God...
DEFINITELY NOT SO! lol

The Christian (and the Jew) worship Yahweh, One God, Three distinct Persons!

Muslims worship Allah, one god, one person, so NOT the same God!

QED!
 

jb

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2010
4,940
589
113
#70
The Christian (and the Jew) worship Yahweh, One God, Three distinct Persons!

Muslims worship Allah, one god, one person, so NOT the same God!

QED!
VERY SORRY Kaylagrl, misread your last post, which I wholeheartedly agree with!
 
Aug 29, 2015
184
0
0
#71
But I thought the Jew or Judaism worships only one God and does not belive in the trinity the don't belive in Jesus so how can they belive in the trinity,they worship the same God as Christians and Muslims but don't belive in the trinity just like Muslims,so it's only Christians that belive in the trinity not jews or Muslims.is that correct?
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
124
63
#72
Two decades and you still say Muslims don't worship the same God as Christians and Jews? Come on then,humour me,what God do Muslims worship? What God do jews worship? Is it some God I've never heard of? Are not Islam,Judaism and Christianity all abrahamic religions?
Actually, apart from true Christians they worship a god of their own imaginations. They do not worship the living God. Their eyes are blinded that they should not see. God is only worshiped 'in Spirit and in truth' (Joh 4.24). Only those who do so know the true God.
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
124
63
#73
But I thought the Jew or Judaism worships only one God and does not belive in the trinity the don't belive in Jesus so how can they belive in the trinity,they worship the same God as Christians and Muslims but don't belive in the trinity just like Muslims,so it's only Christians that belive in the trinity not jews or Muslims.is that correct?
That is correct and it is because the revelation that God gave of His OWN SON is rejected by them. Thus they do not know God in His fullness. They are unaware of the Triune God as revealed in Scripture because their eyes are blinded and their hearts are hardened.
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
124
63
#74
I've already said I am not a scholar,why are you being so rude? Why don't you answer my question? You are not as clever as you think you are,the Muslims and Jews and Christians all belive in the same GOD the father,and your calling me ignorant!!! Isaiah 7:14. And he shall be called Immanuel
The Muslims do not see Allah as their father. To them he is far off and unapproachable.

The Jews see God as the father of creation and of the nation, but NOT as THEIR individual Father.

It is only the Christian who, because of the teaching of Jesus Christ, can see God as his personal Father.

Jesus Christ WAS called Immanuel (Matt 1.23) which Matthew equates with JESUS (YHWH is salvation).
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
124
63
#76
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.
But notice that He did not say 'OUR Father' or 'OUR God'. Indeed He never does so. He ALWAYS distinguishes His own position and status from all others. Having been made man He could speak of MY God. Being unique He could NOT speak of OUR God. As true man God was His God. As the Son God the Father was His unique Father. But as He Himself said, 'He who has seen ME has seen the Father'. Only God could say that.
 
Last edited:
Nov 19, 2012
5,484
27
0
#77
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.
And...?

Is this supposedly to somehow thwart The Trinity?
 
Nov 19, 2012
5,484
27
0
#78
Two decades and you still say Muslims don't worship the same God as Christians and Jews?
Only Trinitarian Christians properly worship The Creator.



Come on then,humour me,what God do Muslims worship?
The 'allah' of the Koran is Satan.




What God do jews worship?

The remnant-few Jews who were allowed to advance into the future properly worshiped Yahweh, as told to us in the OT.

Modern-day Jews improperly worship Yahweh.



Is it some God I've never heard of?
The God of the Holy Bible is Triune.

Since your version of The Trinity is false, then, yes, you have never heard of it...






Are not Islam,Judaism and Christianity all abrahamic religions?
That would be a buzz-word of little meaning...
 
Nov 19, 2012
5,484
27
0
#80
Hmmm,I think not but you know what,I'd love you to instruct me if you have the time and patients,I've just looked up Makek Yahweh,you obviously know what your talking about,I apologise if I have offended you in any way with my ignorance,I have read a lot on the internet about the three main religions mainly to find out how much they agree on and how many very small differences there are between the three,
The differences are what matters.

All three believe in Jesus...so, He must be a very important figure.

Both islam and Judaism reject the Triune God - thus, they do NOT have eternal life.

Simple Biblical truth.




I'm also interested in the differences between Christian faiths like my own,prodestant and what I'm assuming is yours,catholic,again,I hope I haven't offended you,
I'm Protestant.



I truly thought Islam was the revelations given to mohammed by GOD,the jewish and Christian GOD,and written down in the Koran.
That is myth propagated by ignorant islam.

That the Koran copied copious amounts of Biblical material is fact.

This is stated numerous times, in numerous passages of Koranic scripture – beginning with the very definition of the term 'Koran', itself.

The trick is in determining what portion(s) of the Holy Bible were reformatted into Arabic.

For sura 89, it appears that the Gospel according to Matthew may be the most likely of the four Gospel accounts to have been used as source material. If so, then this will simply reinforce the Koranic confirmation of Jesus’ crucifixion until death upon the cross, and allow Muslims to reference more than one single solitary ayah (4.157) as evidence of Jesus crucifixion.

That the Koran uses the Biblical Gospels should not come as a surprise, as sura 86 uses material from the Gospel according to John, and then blended this with the Book of Revelation material.