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Larry_Stotle

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(1 Cor 15:22 KJV) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

(1 Cor 15:23 KJV) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

The above is in regards to the change from the physical to the spiritual - Christ was raised physically from the dead.

We all die the death that Adam died physically.

Paul stated they were already made alive or "quickened" spiritually.

(Col 2:13 KJV) And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
 
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Larry_Stotle said:
The remnant were saved and forgiven - read Romans....shakes head..

(Rom 11:5 KJV) Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
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Context of Romans 11:1-11b is the remnant of Jews. God has always had a remnant and has to this very day.
Paul sums it up here...

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
(Rom 11:25-29)

Only a determined preterist would deny such plain language. :)
 
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Larry_Stotle

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The deliverer did return in 70AD as promised.

(Rom 13:11 KJV) And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Nearer is not 1980+ years from when Paul wrote that.

Only a dishpanhandler would ignore imminence states to fit their fawtly "theology".

Of course you not "knowing the time" - you is all confused.
 
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Larry_Stotle said:
The deliverer did return in 70AD as promised.

(Rom 13:11 KJV) And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Nearer is not 1980+ years from when Paul wrote that.

Only a dishpanhandler would ignore imminence states to fit their fawtly "theology".

Of course you not "knowing the time" - you is all confused.
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Ok, I guess we pack our bags...it's all 'behind' us :(

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Larry_Stotle

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I would say you need to get rid of that dispensational baggage.
 
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2Thewaters

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There is only one truth

if there are three views then two or more people are not reading the Bible
 
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Larry_Stotle said:
(1 Cor 15:22 KJV) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

(1 Cor 15:23 KJV) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

The above is in regards to the change from the physical to the spiritual - Christ was raised physically from the dead.

We all die the death that Adam died physically.

Paul stated they were already made alive or "quickened" spiritually.

(Col 2:13 KJV) And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
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Adam died spiritually first, then he died physically. It is my opinion that we regain that spiritual life while we are still in the flesh. Then we die a physical death freeing us from the flesh. Sorry if that wasn't clear in my previous post.

Adam died twice.

He died spiritually that physical day.
He died physically that spiritual/heavenly day.

What God said was double true:)

We are made alive twice, if we accept Jesus.

We are born into our physical lives at birth.
We are born into our spiritual lives when we are baptized.
 
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