How can Satan be bound for a thousand yrs.?

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Hi everyone,

I thought since everyone seems to be so Revealation, End times, Tribulation minded
here lately I would ask this question, after all it does say that he wil.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Blessings
 
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7dBF6YzYlo[/video]

Satan is bound already and has no power over us, resist him and he shall flee from you.

People don't see it because it's spiritual.

However the day will come when he will be loosed.
 
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cronjecj said:
Satan is bound already and has no power over us, resist him and he shall flee from you.
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That is a contradiction. If he is bound, he is not here to resist.

People don't see it because it's spiritual.
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You don't see it, apparently... :)

However the day will come when he will be loosed.
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He must be bound before he can be loosed. He is not yet bound, which should be obvious.
 
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shroom2 said:
That is a contradiction. If he is bound, he is not here to resist.
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He is bound meaning he has no authority over us.

Satan lost his authority from the first advent, he will be loosed just before the tribulation.
 
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cronjecj said:
He is bound meaning he has no authority over us.

Satan lost his authority from the first advent, he will be loosed just before the tribulation.
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He is still the "god of this world". He is not currently bound. He lost his authority over Christians through what Christ accomplished. That's why we can resist him and he will flee. He will be bound at the start of the millennial kingdom, and loosed "for a season" at the end of it, after which he will be destroyed.
 
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2knowhim said:
Hi everyone,

I thought since everyone seems to be so Revealation, End times, Tribulation minded
here lately I would ask this question, after all it does say that he wil.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Blessings
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Look at what happens to the earth when Jesus returns
Revelation 16:19-20
(19) And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
(20) And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
Jeremiah 4:25-26
(25) I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
(26) I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

There are no more cities, all the earth will become like a desert, it also says there will be no man.
 Isaiah 13:9-11
(9) Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
(11) And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

These texts are yet to be fulfilled, when Jesus returns the earth will become something like Mars nothing and the wicked will be destroyed also there will be no light. The earth will go back to its original state.
Revelation 20:1
(1) And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

Bottomless pit can also be translated as deep, which is the original state of the earth
Genesis 1:2
(2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Jeremiah 4:23
(23) I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

What will happen to God's people during the 1000 years?
Revelation 20:4
(4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
John 14:2-3
(2) In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
(3) And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

For the 1000 years God's people will be in heaven, while only Satan and his angels will be here on this dark earth which will be like a desert.
Jeremiah 25:33
(33) And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

This verse is future it will be fulfilled when Jesus returns, the wicked will not be buried and they will be all over the earth. They will not be buried because there is no one to bury them. When the 1000 years are over then God's people come down with the city




 
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shroom2 said:
He is still the "god of this world". He is not currently bound. He lost his authority over Christians through what Christ accomplished. That's why we can resist him and he will flee. He will be bound at the start of the millennial kingdom, and loosed "for a season" at the end of it, after which he will be destroyed.
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Thats That (Amen) Thanks shroom, people really need to think for themselves, and stop having their religons think for them.

Forever in Christ :)
 
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Laodicea said:
...For the 1000 years God's people will be in heaven, while only Satan and his angels will be here on this dark earth which will be like a desert.
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That is not true. The millennial kingdom will be on earth. Christ will literally be reigning "with a rod of iron" here on earth. That's when satan will be bound, people will dwell in safety, "swords will be beat into plowshares", plenty of food, etc.
 
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shroom2 said:
That is not true. The millennial kingdom will be on earth. Christ will literally be reigning "with a rod of iron" here on earth. That's when satan will be bound, people will dwell in safety, "swords will be beat into plowshares", plenty of food, etc.
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Ditto, thanks AGAIN shroom :)

Forever in Christ :)
 
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shroom2 said:
He is still the "god of this world". He is not currently bound. He lost his authority over Christians through what Christ accomplished. That's why we can resist him and he will flee. He will be bound at the start of the millennial kingdom, and loosed "for a season" at the end of it, after which he will be destroyed.
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If you cannot see that the thousand years is used figuratively from the first advent to the second little will you understand the rest.

millennial is not in the bible.

the word thousand is used figuratively throughout the bible.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/34301-first-resurrection-part-2-a.html - thousand years explained.
 
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shroom2 said:
That is not true. The millennial kingdom will be on earth. Christ will literally be reigning "with a rod of iron" here on earth. That's when satan will be bound, people will dwell in safety, "swords will be beat into plowshares", plenty of food, etc.
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Did you read the rest of the post and tell me when will those verses I posted be fulfilled?
 
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shroom2 said:
That is not true. The millennial kingdom will be on earth. Christ will literally be reigning "with a rod of iron" here on earth. That's when satan will be bound, people will dwell in safety, "swords will be beat into plowshares", plenty of food, etc.
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I'm pretty sure this is true. I mean (looks at the news) if this is the Earth with Satan bound, it's not gonna survive much longer! If anything, it looks like we're living in Satan's playground at the moment. About the only thing left is a "Devilland" complete with a cartoon mouse with a pitchfork and horns running around!

 
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shroom2 said:
That is not true. The millennial kingdom will be on earth. Christ will literally be reigning "with a rod of iron" here on earth. That's when satan will be bound, people will dwell in safety, "swords will be beat into plowshares", plenty of food, etc.
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Christ will reign on the old earth a thousand years? You contradict Rev 20 vs Rev 21

The new Jerusalem only comes AFTER judgement and AFTER new heaven and earth not before upon Jesus glorious 2nd coming (read the parable of the wheat and the tears)

Nowhere in scripture does it say that, it says we (the saints) will reign with Christ a thousand years (from the first advent to the second) not the other way around.
 
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We reign with Christ from the moment you are born of the Spirit.

Christ doesn't reign on the old earth a thousand years but we reign with Christ because His Spirit dwells in us and are seated in heavenly places IN CHRIST. Ephesians 2:6 (KJV)

We reign with Christ now (spiritually) Ephesians 2:6 (KJV)

He has made us kings and priests unto God already Revelation 1:16 (KJV)

When Christ comes, He comes with glory and power ready to judge (final judgement) separating the wheat from the tares.

tares (goats) on His left and the wheat (sheep) on His right. Matthew 13:24-30 (KJV) ... Matthew 36-43 (KJV)
 
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cronjecj said:
If you cannot see that the thousand years is used figuratively from the first advent to the second little will you understand the rest.

millennial is not in the bible.

the word thousand is used figuratively throughout the bible.

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/34301-first-resurrection-part-2-a.html - thousand years explained.
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I believe your explanation of 1000 years is incorrect.

Yes, the word "thousand" is used figuratively at times. But not always. Yes, "millennial" is not in the bible.

Rev 20: [ after armageddon, which is still future ]
1) And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Satan is quite obviously not bound now. Christ is quite obviously not reigning now.

3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

This "first resurrection" is the resurrection of the just. (John 11:24) It will happen at the start of the thousand year kingdom (note I did not use the word millennial. Happy? :)) All OT believers, and believers killed during the trib, will be raised in this resurrection and reign with Christ. Christians will already be with Christ.

6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Note how many times "thousand years" is specifically used. It will be a literal kingdom on earth that will last 1000 years.
 
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shroom2 said:
Christ is quite obviously not reigning now.
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The scripture does not say Christ reigning on earth now however it does say WE are reigning in CHRIST in heavenly places Ephesians 2:6 (KJV)

....big difference.

and He (Christ) has made us kings and priests already. Revelation 1:6 (KJV)
 
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shroom2 said:
Rev 20: [ after armageddon, which is still future ]
1) And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Satan is quite obviously not bound now. Christ is quite obviously not reigning now.

3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

This "first resurrection" is the resurrection of the just. (John 11:24) It will happen at the start of the thousand year kingdom (note I did not use the word millennial. Happy? :)) All OT believers, and believers killed during the trib, will be raised in this resurrection and reign with Christ. Christians will already be with Christ.

6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Note how many times "thousand years" is specifically used. It will be a literal kingdom on earth that will last 1000 years.
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You are looking with the physical eye and trying to interpret them with the naked eye but you cannot see that the thousand years is used figuratively.

Read this --------> http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/34301-first-resurrection-part-2-a.html
 
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cronjecj said:
Christ will reign on the old earth a thousand years? You contradict Rev 20 vs Rev 21
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Yes, he will reign on this earth for 1000 years. After that, satan will be loosed, amass an army, and God will destroy him and it. THEN the new heaven and earth will be created, and new Jerusalem will descend.

The new Jerusalem only comes AFTER judgement and AFTER new heaven and earth not before upon Jesus glorious 2nd coming (read the parable of the wheat and the tears)
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Yes. Here is how I believe things will play out:

1) rapture of the Christian church
2) the 7 years of trib.
3) Christ returns to earth (the "second advent") to fight armageddon. We Christians will be with him.
4) The millennial kingdom will be set up, also the resurrection of the just will take place. Satan will be bound.
5) the 1000 year millennial kingdom, with Christ reigning here on earth. This current earth...
6) Satan will be loosed, amass an army against Christ, and will be destroyed by God.
7) the resurrection of the unjust, and the "great white throne judgment".
8) this heaven and earth destroyed, the new one is created.
9) new Jerusalem descends
10) we will live forever with God and Christ.

Nowhere in scripture does it say that, it says we (the saints) will reign with Christ a thousand years (from the first advent to the second) not the other way around.
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Yes, we will reign with Christ for the thousand year millennial kingdom. Christ is not reigning now, we are not reigning now. It is still future.
 
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Revelation 20:6 (KJV) says WE reign with CHRIST a thousand years (spiritually) in Christ Ephesians 2:6 (KJV) ... Revelation 1:6 (KJV) ...it does not say Christ reigning a thousand years here.
 
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