5 Wise Virgins---------------------------------5 Foolish Virgins

88 · Feb 28, 2017

**** 1 John 5:11, 12***** Life is in the Son****is we deny Him or reject Him or are foolish I believe there are enough warnings ---------make sure to take "extra" oil...

GuessWho · Feb 28, 2017

JesusRules1 said:

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

The 5 wise and the 5 foolish,are virgins,who are 10 people that claimed Jesus as Lord,but the 5 wise had the Holy Spirit,and the 5 foolish did not have the Holy Spirit.

The 5 foolish were not unbelievers,for they are virgins,and they said Lord,Lord,open to us.

The 5 wise had oil in the vessel,which could be in themselves,and the lamp could be the word of God,for the Bible says the word of God is a lamp unto my feet,and a light unto my path.

The lamp could be the word of God,and the 5 foolish were not taught by the Spirit,for the Bible says they have a form of godliness,but deny the power thereof(Holy Spirit),ever learning and never able to come to the truth,and Jesus said the Holy Spirit will guide us in to all truth,and show us things to come,and we need not that any person teach us,but the Spirit will teach us.

Without a person receiving the Spirit they never come to the truth of God's word,and that truth is to allow the Spirit to lead you so you can live like Christ,which a Spirit led life will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.

The wise had oil in their vessels,and their lamps,which might be oil in themselves,and taught the word of God,by the Holy Spirit,where the foolish did not have the Holy Spirit in them,and was not taught by the Holy Spirit concerning the word of God.

Maybe the five foolish ones are the pharisees who have the Law and are very confident in it and don't think it's necessary to add something to the Law while the wise ones are the jews (and gentiles) who accept Jesus as the Messiah and add the New Covenant (the extra oil) to the Old Covenant.

popeye · Feb 28, 2017

mailmandan said:

Yet not all the virgins were foolish and once again, these foolish virgins may have simply tried to minimized their foolishness by describing their plight as "running out" so as to look less foolish. As Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - When the five foolish virgins lit their lamps, they discovered the lack of oil. The sputtering, flickering, smoking wicks were a sad revelation. "And perhaps we are to understand that there is something in the coincidence of the lamps going out just as the Bridegroom arrived. Mere outward religion is found to have no illuminating power."

"Foolish" virgins are not "wise" virgins and Jesus did not know these foolish virgins, which means they had no intimate relationship with Jesus which means they were not saved, so they are something else. Just because they are called "virgins" does not mean they were saved and not everyone who is referred to a "disciple" is saved either (John 6:64-71). Only those who continue in His word are TRULY His disciples (John 8:31) so those who don't continue are something else as well. Don't be so naive.

What flame? The foolish virgins had no oil.

So they claim their lamps are gone out. What part of Jesus DID NOT KNOW THEM do you not understand? You are so obsessed with accommodating your doctrinal agenda that you left that part out. Do you that these many people in Matthew 7:22 that Jesus NEVER KNEW were saved also? They claimed they did many wonderful works, yet Jesus refers to them as workers of iniquity.

You are changing the components of the parable.

How did the foolish lamps go out with no oil and no flame???

You are stuck in ascribing your own meaning to something so simple.

Amazing how you cling and pursue error

Almost unprecedented because you are shown your error and still persist in falsehood.

popeye · Feb 28, 2017

mailmandan said:

And so you NEED 'virgins",light,oil,waiting on Jesus,To be descriptive of the unsaved.

Like I said you are basing your deal on changing components.

You are basically making the story fit your deal.

Very bad decision

popeye · Feb 28, 2017

GuessWho said:

The Holy Spirit in the book of acts was imparted by other believers through the laying on of hands (as demonstrated in the parable" give us some of yours").

popeye · Feb 28, 2017

samuel23 said:

The problem is often the deceitful heart of man that has an agenda and is quite willing to manipulate the scriptures in order to make the bible appear to support that agenda. I have ran into this all my life, I have told many of the folks that do this, why not just tell the truth? In many cases it would cause no harm to the person to be truthful and you will be right with God. I think the willingness to change and manipulate the word of God comes from a real lack of fear of God. If we really fear God we should be terrified to change His word because we cannot fool God and He will hold us accountable for it.

Yes indeed.

I have had to change many times when shown to be wrong.

You just have to swallow your pride and make adjustments

popeye · Feb 28, 2017

fredoheaven said:

I think we are seeing a bonus revelation.

We are seeing some,over and over stumbling at " virgins" not allowed into the marriage chamber.

Hence all the " well they have to be heathens"

Untill that threshold is broken,we are going to continue to see the parable beat to pieces.

popeye · Feb 28, 2017

Saddens me to see so many change the parable.

Grace777x70 · Feb 28, 2017

88 said:

Where is this "extra oil"?

GuessWho · Feb 28, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

[FONT=&quot]25 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps.[/FONT]

88 · Feb 28, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

****since this is a parable----we are looking at the focus of the teaching (being prepared for the Lord's Coming)----taking extra oil with us is realizing that the Lord has tarried---people expected Him in the 50's and people expected Him in the 70's----many of them let their lamps go out or go very low-------go to the Seller of Oil...

Grace777x70 · Feb 28, 2017

GuessWho said:

Thank you. But what does that mean in real life? This is a parable. Where are these "jars" now? What are these "jars"?

Then we are back to the question - "just what is this oil to begin with?"

Grace777x70 · Feb 28, 2017

88 said:

You still have not answered what this extra oil is and how one gets it. Unless you mean that "extra oil" is simply realizing that the Lord is delaying His return. This makes no sense whatsoever to me. I can't see how the 50' and 60's have anything to do with it. We have had time going on for over 2,000 years now - I could be missing something though...

How do we "buy" this oil from the seller?

88 · Feb 28, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

****I think in real life we need to "Jar" people awake to the fact that Christ is coming----He taught this parable to warn us to be prepared-----a lot of the teaching today tends to focus on good things ect.-----but shortly I believe God will raised up servants to Cry Aloud-----to help us prepare...

Grace777x70 · Feb 28, 2017

88 said:

Sorry but this makes no sense at all to me. We are to bring extra oil from our jars - and now the jars are to "jar" us awake?

88 · Feb 28, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

****in our personal time with the Lord He will speak to each of us in regard to preparation----some of us may need an oil change...

Grace777x70 · Feb 28, 2017

88 said:

So now we need an oil change? If the Holy Spirit is the oil - do we need to change Him out for another oil? How many different Holy Spirit's do we have?

88 · Feb 28, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

***sorry---just read the parable and be prepared---if you are truly seeking God and want to hear from Him He will speak to you...

Grace777x70 · Feb 28, 2017

88 said:

How do we prepare?

I personally believe a lot of religious views go into "interpreting" these parables by all of us. We need the Holy Spirit to illuminate Jesus in these parables or we'll create our own religion using Christianized terms like God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, scriptures..etc.

I believe that God will bring light to us as we rely on Him. He will give us the desires of our heart. His desires will manifest. That's what I declare to be true. He lives within me so now I trust Him to do what He said He will do.

Enow · Feb 28, 2017

PANCAKES said:

The Holy Spirit is not the One to pray to. The Son is as He is at that throne of grace. The Son is the only Mediator between God and men. The Lamb of God is how we have access to God the Father in prayer. This is why the Holy Spirit is called the Comforter whereas the Son is called the Bridegroom. The Bridegroom speaks to us thru the Holy Spirit but our response as the bride is to the Bridegroom; not to the Comforter since it is really the Bridegroom speaking to us.

John 16:[SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.[SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.[SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

So return to your first love because the Holy Spirit was never meant to serve as the Go To Person of the Triune God, but the Son is as He meant what He had said that He is the only way to come to God the Father by so as to avoid seducing spirits.

John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me......[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

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