57 Countries urged to create army to attack Israel

Laish · Mar 18, 2018

I checked out several news site on the article in the Turkish paper . The article is actually a propaganda pice from a military consultant firm called SDAT . The article has been on the company’s website for quite some time . The article was published on the heals of several military defeats that the Turkish military suffered against the Kurdish fighters. The firm has close ties to Turkeys president. The government there is just trying to distract from embarrassing losses.
Still somthing to watch but too many Islamic neighbors are not even close to wanting to let Turkish government start WWIII
Blessings
Bill

abcdef · Mar 18, 2018

Laish said:

Hi Laish,

Try to remember that we are just seeing these events beginning to take their final forms. The 200 mill army is forming around Israel and Jerusalem.

It may be some time before the final events of Armageddon, possibly years, I don't know the time according to men.

WE can know the events when we can identify the entities and the time line.

The restoration of Jerusalem to Israel and the forming of the 200 mill army in the Euphrates region.

Events and entities never before fitting the profile of the time line. Events thought never to be possible until recent times.

These things are too close to the prophecies to be ignored.

louis · Mar 18, 2018

abcdef said:

Brother abcdef,
You will notice that there are books in the bible that provide complete synopsis of some future event/s in one or two chapters, and then later on in that book provide one or more synopsis with additional details on the same event. The book of Isaiah and the book of Jeremiah and the book of Daniel are good examples. The book of Revelation likewise provides complete synopsis of events, only to be further elaborated upon in other chapters.
When the beast rises from the bottomless pit, he is simultaneously ascending from the sea, as the sea is simply a different term used for the bottomless pit.
When the two witnesses are killed by the beast in Revelation 11, the beast has already risen from the sea, aka, the bottomless pit.
In regards to the power the devil will give the beast that causes his rising from the sea, aka the bottomless pit; this would then be synonymous with the key used to open the bottomless pit.
As I previously mentioned you need to be well versed in Revelation in order to understand what's going on; I then now need to explain what the power, aka the key to the sea/bottomless pit is.
As one reads in Revelation 9:20 where mankinds love for the products his hands produce is attributed as the cause for all the environmental issues seen in Revelation 8 and 9; it is then after the first four envirnmental catastrophies in which 1/3 of land, sea, and air resources are destroyed by use of conventional fossil fuels, when another angel then pronounces woe, woe, woe, to the inhabitants of earth, by reason of the last three angels who are about to sound (Revelation 8:13). As this woe, woe, woe, was not pronounced by the first four angels in which 1/3 of the earth is destroyed, it then indicates that the last three soundings are considerably worse that the first four soundings.
It is when the devil gives his power to the beast, aka the key to open the bottomless pit (the fifth sounding), in which all the woe, woe, woe will break forth upon mankind.
Revelation 12:12 corroborates this woe upon mankind and the earth when the devil is cast to the earth, and he then gives his power/the key to the beast.
If we then understand the first four environmental catastrophes caused by conventional fossil fuel use; the power (key) the devil gives the beast which causes him to rise from the sea and have all the world worshipping the beast and the devil would have to be a source of energy that will be seen as environmentally friendly.
Fusion, the same energy that powers our sun and the stars, requires hydrogen.
The sea has an unlimited amount of hydrogen (a bottomless pit), to produce all the energy industry will ever want.
Though the scientific community has been looking for many decades now to finding the key to attain fusion energy, it is still beyond today's technology. We have to wait until reaching 1/3 of earth's environment being destroyed, before the devil and his angels are cast to the earth, when he provides the beast his power/the key to fusion energy.

Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Desdichado · Mar 18, 2018

Man, they're really giving Jack White a run for his money.

louis · Mar 18, 2018

Apparantly, however, by the results seen in Revelation 9, the opening of the bottomless pit of fusion energy will be anything but a benign energy source.

abcdef · Apr 11, 2018

Friends,

Again I must remind you that Jerusalem is about to fall. 3 1/2 days later is the rapt/resurrection of the 7th trumpet when Jesus comes for the kingdom, and then it is the end.

All these things that are happening now in the middle east are leading up to this event.

When Jerusalem falls this time, there will be no "fleeing" from the "sword" as in Lk 21:20-24 in 70 ad.

Israel will never control the Jerusalem of this planet again. Israel will be destroyed as a nation, as a distinct genetic race.

That is why Jesus comes for the kingdom and destroys this planet with the fire from heaven, the stone.

It may be that you will not be able to communicate on the net ever again, soon, I don't know. But it is possible. That is why I have tried to explain the details as I have.

And we cannot change what is about to happen, as it is prophecy, but we can focus on the gospel and God's love for all.

The salvation of the soul is all that really matters.

How much time is left? I don't know? But when Jerusalem falls, Jesus is coming for the kingdom.

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Why do you think that Jerusalem will not fall?

Most teach that Jerusalem does fall in the future. Some mid trib, some post trib.

The trouble is, that the fall of Jerusalem that is coming upon us, is that it shows that their time line is not correct.

They will say, "This is not mid trib, or post trib, how can Jerusalem be falling now?"

Then they will realize that they had the time line wrong and the 7th trumpet is about to sound.

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I cannot make anyone believe what I say, that is the work of the Holy Spirit. It is my part to tell what the scriptures say.

I believe that Jesus is coming for the kingdom.

Look at the middle east. Face it! Look at reality! Look at the prophecies coming true!

Jerusalem is about to fall!

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Bladerunner · Apr 11, 2018

abcdef said:

Neither.....But it certainly lead to those eventually.. As Birth Pangs go....THey get closer and bigger in pain until they reach a level where one is right after the other.

This does appear to the prophecy of (Asaph) psalms 83 where a confederate of countries surrounding Israel are conspiring to do away with them..... Ah, you can read it for your self.....

A lot of people speak about the Gog and Magog war is upon us...There are several Prophecies that have to happen prior that war. One of them, I believe is the Psalm 83 War...WHY?

A prerequisite to the Gog/Magog war is that Israel is unafraid, living without walls. They appear to be financially well off since it appears that Russia, Iran and Turkey are attacking them for Booty. Rem,,,also Russia is economically in bad shape.. So, is Iran, plus they also have a problem with their citizens including the fact that Conversions to Christianity is up to about 19%.

Turkey on the other hand would like to see the Ottoman Empire come back, will leave the NATO, and join forces with Russia (oops, they did that the other day).

Getting back to the Psalm 83 War. the countries that will attack Israel will be those that surround her. Exception will be Jordan, Sheba and Dedan (Saudi Arabia). After God helps the IDF to win this war by Blinding the enemies horses (probably tanks, etc), Israel will have (as they did in the 1967 war) increased their land mass back to almost the original land GOD gave Israel through Moses.

The ones who attack Israel at the Gog, Magog war besides Russia, Turkey and IRAN will be NON of those that were in the psalm 83 war. It appears they were defeated during that time. Countries in Northern Africa and those above Syria and to the north eastern countries that once were part of Russia will take part in this war, (wanting part of the spoils???).

As far as the 2 Million Man Army, it will most likely come about from the East as part of Pakistan, India and China. This will be later on in Daniel's 70th week as the Euphrates has to dry up enabling them to pass.

The 7th trump has nothing to do with anything than Bring the 7 vials of Wrath.of GOD's Judgement upon man. These are Heavenly judgements as we see in REv. 16. While all judgements from Seal #6 to the 7th vial are God's Wrath, The wrath from Seal #6 to the 7th trumpet have come from earth herself.

Other prophecies include , the total destruction of Damascus, a problem in ELam where its citizens Flee to other countries (most likely nuclear as in Powerplant). Elam is where Iran has their power plants. Whatever takes place, the IDF will do it.

Please exercise Acts 17:11 after reading this post.

abcdef · Apr 11, 2018

Brother Br,

Bladerunner said:

The Psalm 83 war happened in the time of David.The cities without walls indicated peace during that time. Just because it says "cities without walls", does not prove that it is future, our present time.

The kings of the east, are Iran.

The drying of the Euphrates has already happened. It is the life and strength of the people of that area (the waters are people). Besides, it is not a significant problem for a modern army/airforce.

Iran is already in Syria, building bases with the Russians, and growing in power.

Soon they will turn to attack Jerusalem. Then it is the end.

The 7th trumpet is Jesus coming for the kingdom at the rapt/resur. That is the end of the story of the little scroll.

The Damascus prophecy is fulfilled in 2 Kings 16:9.

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You are saying, "No, this cannot be the end yet, all these must happen first." But they already have happened.

We are at the end of the Revelation. Just before the fire from heaven, where Jerusalem restored to Israel is surrounded by the gentile nations.

abcdef · Apr 11, 2018

You can know the answers, if you want to.

But you must understand a "new" time line.

The 7 times are the same time period as the statue of Dan. 2. This is proven by the angel in Dan. 12 who tells that it will be 3 1/2 times from Babylon until the people are scattered in 70 ad.

The 2nd 3 1/2 times is from 70 ad until 1967 when Jerusalem was restored. This makes 7 times, the same time shown as the Dan. 2 statue.

The Revelation focuses on the 2nd 3 1/2 times from 70 ad until 1967.

The 2 Wit's and the woman of ch 12 are both describing the second 3 1/2 times, also known as the times of the gentiles.

When Jerusalem was restored to Israel it was the end of the 7 times and the times of the gentiles, the horns and toes.

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Just to tell you, CC is the only place that you will hear this understanding for now.

It doesn't matter who I am, only if what I am saying is the correct understanding of scripture.

Look at the middle east, soon Israel will be standing alone. They are already surrounded.

One important thing is, that you understand the time line. So that even if we cannot communicate further for some reason, you will know the possibilities that are coming.

When Jerusalem falls, after 3 1/2 days, the 7th trumpet will sound, and this planet will end in fire when the stone strikes.

Bladerunner · Apr 12, 2018

abcdef said:

Brother Br,

The Psalm 83 war happened in the time of David.The cities without walls indicated peace during that time. Just because it says "cities without walls", does not prove that it is future, our present time.

From what I read, David lead Armies against numerous peoples during this period...But if you seriously think this is the time, we can speak later of it...

Isa 46:9-10.."Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, ver 10. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

The kings of the east, are Iran.

Can Iran or any multiple of mid east countries create a 2 million man army...China, India, Pakistan are directly east of IRan...Iran is connected with Russia and TUrkey in the Gog/Magog War.....God Destroys most every man in these three armies. Has that happened YET? NO,,,,WHen God does destroy them, how can IRAN come across the Euphrates with a 2 million man army.. I don't think you really have thought this out..If that is the Case,,,You have bigger problems than worrying about who is crossing the Euphrates

The drying of the Euphrates has already happened. It is the life and strength of the people of that area (the waters are people). Besides, it is not a significant problem for a modern army/airforce. God's WORD tells you this Prophecy and you say this?

Yes, the MAN_MADE dam is there that can dry up the river below it...The BIBLE tells us GOD Dries it all up.

Rev 16:12."And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared."

Iran is already in Syria, building bases with the Russians, and growing in power.

Ah but Israel is not without fear, or walls. While the Natural Gas wells are just the beginning, the Booty (Wealth of Israel) the Prophecy speaks of is just not there at this time.

Soon they will turn to attack Jerusalem. Then it is the end.

Not YET but is getting here....ARE YOU READY????

Like I said, several other prophecies have to happen according to the Bible before the Last Half of Daniel's 70th week (Great Tribulation) begins. Keep in mind, the Anti-christ is not on the scene and will not be until Jesus' Church is removed from God's Wrath.

The 7th trumpet is Jesus coming for the kingdom at the rapt/resur. That is the end of the story of the little scroll.

The 7th trumpet is simply a part of a trinity of Plaques, Famines and wars placed upon the Non-believers and Israel in the End days. It is one of 21 steps (7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and 7 Vials (Bowls). The 7th Trumpet like the 7th Seal only announces the next Step. 7th seal to 1st trumpet and 7th trumpet to 1 st Vial or bowl judgement. The 7th Vial or Bowl Judgement is unlike the other two as it actually has actual judgements within it verses.

The Damascus prophecy is fulfilled in 2 Kings 16:9.

Damascus Has never been completely destroyed, especially in 2 Kings 16:9. Try reading the rest of that Chapter... Damascus is the Oldest continuous livable city in the world.

(Isaiah 17.1-3.."The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. ver 2. The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. ver 3.The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts."

Jer. 49: 23-27).."Concerning Damascus. Hamath is confounded, and Arpad: for they have heard evil tidings: they are fainthearted; there is sorrow on the sea; it cannot be quiet. ver 24. Damascus is waxed feeble, and turneth herself to flee, and fear hath seized on her: anguish and sorrows have taken her, as a woman in travail.ver 25 How is the city of praise not left, the city of my joy! ver 26. Therefore her young men shall fall in her streets, and all the men of war shall be cut off in that day, saith the LORD of hosts. ver 27. And I will kindle a fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall consume the palaces of Benhadad."

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You are saying, "No, this cannot be the end yet, all these must happen first." But they already have happened.

Show me in the Bible via verses that all of this is in the past not the future.

We are at the end of the Revelation. Just before the fire from heaven, where Jerusalem restored to Israel is surrounded by the gentile nations.

Where did the rest of Revelation go to...I have not see any part of it. Pray tell me where I have gone wrong.

abcdef · Apr 12, 2018

Bladerunner said:

Brother Br,

Please try to take a fresh look at the prophecies again.

The difference is being able to identify the events in the time line with the events taking place in the world.

Only certain events can be identified. These would be surrounding known entities. Rome, Jerusalem, the people of Israel, for example.

The biggest known event that many agree on is that Jerusalem will be or is, restored to Israel.

This is one event that shows our place in the time line.

This allows for the other things surrounding the restoration to come true. Which is, the coming of Jesus for the kingdom.

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The next question might be, where is this restoration shown in the prophecies?

Dan. 2, The statue ends when Israel is restored to Jerusalem. The times of the gentiles ends. The 7 times are the same time period shown as the statue.

The first 3 1/2 times, Babylon - 70 ad. Dan. 12.

The second 3 1/2 times, 70 ad - 1967.

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The 2 Witnesses, They are restored to Jerusalem after the 3 1/2 times, 70 ad - 1967.

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The woman of Rev 12, She flees to the wilderness of the gentiles for 3 1/2 times, 70 ad - 1967. When the 3 1/2 times is ended, she returns from the wilderness to restore Jerusalem.

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Rev 20, The gentile nations surround restored Jerusalem. (Happening now, at the end of the church/kingdom age.)

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The dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns Rev 12, the iron legs/toes Dan.2, the 4th beast of Dan. 7, the beasts of Rev 13, the beast of Rev 17, and the dragon in Rev 20 are ALL Rome.

Rome, almost everybody is refusing to acknowledge this fact. That is confusing many, because it contradicts some traditional teachings designed to disguise that the Bishop of Rome/Caesar is the Antichrist

But the iron legs/toes clearly show that Rome dominates the people of Israel until the statue ends when Jerusalem is restored.

Then the stone strikes. But the stone is not Jesus coming to establish the kingdom, that happened way back just after the iron began of the statue (Pentecost), the stone striking is Jesus coming for the kingdom at the 7th trumpet. After that, the wheat/chaff judgment and the new earth.

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For people like you and I, who love the scriptures, it really isn't a matter of being wrong, necessarily, it is more like, the time of God's revealing it to us, is when He decides.

Bladerunner · Apr 12, 2018

abcdef said:

Brother Br,

Please try to take a fresh look at the prophecies again.

The difference is being able to identify the events in the time line with the events taking place in the world.

Only certain events can be identified. These would be surrounding known entities. Rome, Jerusalem, the people of Israel, for example.

The biggest known event that many agree on is that Jerusalem will be or is, restored to Israel.

This is one event that shows our place in the time line.

This allows for the other things surrounding the restoration to come true. Which is, the coming of Jesus for the kingdom.

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The next question might be, where is this restoration shown in the prophecies?

Dan. 2, The statue ends when Israel is restored to Jerusalem. The times of the gentiles ends. The 7 times are the same time period shown as the statue.

The first 3 1/2 times, Babylon - 70 ad. Dan. 12.

The second 3 1/2 times, 70 ad - 1967.

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The 2 Witnesses, They are restored to Jerusalem after the 3 1/2 times, 70 ad - 1967.

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The woman of Rev 12, She flees to the wilderness of the gentiles for 3 1/2 times, 70 ad - 1967. When the 3 1/2 times is ended, she returns from the wilderness to restore Jerusalem.

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Rev 20, The gentile nations surround restored Jerusalem. (Happening now, at the end of the church/kingdom age.)

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The dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns Rev 12, the iron legs/toes Dan.2, the 4th beast of Dan. 7, the beasts of Rev 13, the beast of Rev 17, and the dragon in Rev 20 are ALL Rome.

Rome, almost everybody is refusing to acknowledge this fact. That is confusing many, because it contradicts some traditional teachings designed to disguise that the Bishop of Rome/Caesar is the Antichrist

But the iron legs/toes clearly show that Rome dominates the people of Israel until the statue ends when Jerusalem is restored.

Then the stone strikes. But the stone is not Jesus coming to establish the kingdom, that happened way back just after the iron began of the statue (Pentecost), the stone striking is Jesus coming for the kingdom at the 7th trumpet. After that, the wheat/chaff judgment and the new earth.

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For people like you and I, who love the scriptures, it really isn't a matter of being wrong, necessarily, it is more like, the time of God's revealing it to us, is when He decides.

Well,,,,Is there anything I can do to may be change your mind because you have things completely wrong...Your, the above view has been debunked by many scholars many many times....Yet, you still persist. Oh, Well!

abcdef · Apr 13, 2018

Bladerunner said:

Brother Br,

Please, when you are in the Spirit, in prayer, ask Him, ask Jesus to reveal the truth to you. Think about it, pray on it. The time has come for all these things to be revealed. You don't need me. I am just one who plants and waters and is permitted to share in His glory, as all Christians do.

Seriously, pray to Jesus and ask Him to reveal the truth. Ask Him if what I am saying is the truth. The time has now come for it all to be understood. Ask Him, then you will know, not from my confirmation, but from His confirmation.

Bladerunner · Apr 13, 2018

abcdef said:

Friends,

Again I must remind you that Jerusalem is about to fall. 3 1/2 days later is the rapt/resurrection of the 7th trumpet when Jesus comes for the kingdom, and then it is the end.

All these things that are happening now in the middle east are leading up to this event.

When Jerusalem falls this time, there will be no "fleeing" from the "sword" as in Lk 21:20-24 in 70 ad.

Israel will never control the Jerusalem of this planet again. Israel will be destroyed as a nation, as a distinct genetic race.

That is why Jesus comes for the kingdom and destroys this planet with the fire from heaven, the stone.

It may be that you will not be able to communicate on the net ever again, soon, I don't know. But it is possible. That is why I have tried to explain the details as I have.

And we cannot change what is about to happen, as it is prophecy, but we can focus on the gospel and God's love for all.

The salvation of the soul is all that really matters.

How much time is left? I don't know? But when Jerusalem falls, Jesus is coming for the kingdom.

----------

Why do you think that Jerusalem will not fall?

Most teach that Jerusalem does fall in the future. Some mid trib, some post trib.

The trouble is, that the fall of Jerusalem that is coming upon us, is that it shows that their time line is not correct.

They will say, "This is not mid trib, or post trib, how can Jerusalem be falling now?"

Then they will realize that they had the time line wrong and the 7th trumpet is about to sound.

-----

I cannot make anyone believe what I say, that is the work of the Holy Spirit. It is my part to tell what the scriptures say.

I believe that Jesus is coming for the kingdom.

Look at the middle east. Face it! Look at reality! Look at the prophecies coming true!

Jerusalem is about to fall!

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I reject what you are Saying...God tells us that Jerusalem will survive intact, the Psalm 83 War and the GOG and Magog WAR.... It will also survive WWIII. What it will not do is survive the Abomination of Desolate during the "Great Tribulation" or the last 3-1/2 years, the last 42 months or the last 1280 days of Daniels 70th week.

You are simply preaching and teaching a false (the Other) Gospel.

abcdef · Apr 14, 2018

Bladerunner said:

Brother Br,

In Psalm 83 the Amalekites mentioned there were completely destroyed and ended as a people shown in 1 Ch 4:41-43, so this passage cannot be future from that point.

Ezek Chs 38-39, are also history shown by the weapons used to fight.
Ezek 38:4, horses, horsemen, swords and shields. Ezek 39:9, shields, bows and arrows, spears.

It never says 3 1/2 "years", 3 1/2 "times" is what is said.

The tribulation is the times of the gentiles, 70 ad - 1967.

If you found some one who told you the truth, would you turn away?

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If Jesus is your Savior, if you pray to Him and are close to Him, ask Him if what I am saying is true. Then read over what I have written again.

But with this knowledge comes great obligations in this world, and great blessings in heaven. But also, with increasing knowledge, comes increasing pain.

Ask Jesus in faith, if you want to know the truth. Otherwise, you can turn away from the light and stay in the darkness of confusion, if that is want you want.

tanakh · Apr 14, 2018

Interesting to see the Hal Lyndsey School of Eschatology is still up and running

abcdef · Apr 14, 2018

tanakh said:

Brother tanakh,

I'm sure that there are some who will hold to pre-trib until the very end.

Many want to say, "Jesus will come back and save Jerusalem, it will not fall." But that does not fit in to the pre trib time line. They say that Jerusalem will fall mid trib, some post trib.

But what will they say when Jerusalem falls in front of them? In our present time? And Jesus does not save Jerusalem from falling to the forces of the kings of the east (Iran), and Magog (the forces of the gentile nations)?

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There is an answer, but to understand it, you must face the truth and abandon the pre trib preconceived time line.

The 7 times are not 7 years. The 7 times are showing the same time period as the statue in Dan. 2. The toes end when Jerusalem is restored to Israel 1967. Proven by Dan. 12:5-7, 7, the scattering was 70 ad.

Bladerunner · Apr 14, 2018

tanakh said:

SO SAD!
Blade

preston39 · Apr 14, 2018

abcdef said:

Brother tanakh,

I'm sure that there are some who will hold to pre-trib until the very end..../QUOTE]

a...,

The Bible does not change.

It has always said there will be a pre trib rapture and it always will.

abcdef · Apr 14, 2018

preston39 said:

Hi p39,

1 Cor 15:23-28, 23-24, Shows only 2 resurrections.

The #1 resur. is Jesus, the first fruits.

The #2 resur. is those who are His at His coming.

Then it is the end, where death is destroyed. (Rev 20:14-15)

The #2 resur, is the rapture/resurrection. But then it is the end, no more resurrections, only 2 are shown.

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Pre trib has many variations, on the number of resurrections. I have heard as many as 7 or more resurrections.

How many resurrections do you count?

Paul says 2, #1 and #2, then it is the end.

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