the blowing of the shofar
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The tighter you tighten your lips, the harder you have to blow, and you get different notes. It's pretty much a given that you will get two of the same note an octave apart, but any more than that in between or higher than that will depend on your lip strength and the particular shofar.
You can expect two or three notes all an octave apart, but not really any more than that unless you've had bugle practice and get lucky with a shofar that will do it. I doubt the people making and selling them put much effort into grading them. Getting the third octave will make you feel like you are about to give yourself an anuerism, if you can even do it.
They might fiddle with the length sometimes to get them tuned to the closest actual note and keep the size intact, they'd probably have mentioned that in the sale of it if that were the case.
You can find instructions on the note patterns for use in different situations from jewish websites, but I don't know if those are authentic or just what they believe are authentic.
I can't think of any where in the bible that it specifies a way to play it except the final "long" burst before the wall comes down, which would also indicate some other technique prior to that.
An interesting bit of trivia, if the seven shofars played while marching around the wall were all tuned to different notes, by our modern definition of tuning, then those guys could have played pretty much any songs they knew while marching around that wall, if they traded off notes and timing the same way a group of people play the bells.
I thought for a second that somewhere in the OT, there was one specific pattern of bursts given, but now I think I might be imagining it, or confusing it with other literature. Wherever I saw that instruction was long ago, and I'd think I'd have seen it again by now, but I haven't.
Whatever the case, enjoy it. It kinda brings some mysterious thing from the bible a bit closer to home to go out in a pasture and blow that thing on a nice quiet weekend afternoon.
You can expect two or three notes all an octave apart, but not really any more than that unless you've had bugle practice and get lucky with a shofar that will do it. I doubt the people making and selling them put much effort into grading them. Getting the third octave will make you feel like you are about to give yourself an anuerism, if you can even do it.
They might fiddle with the length sometimes to get them tuned to the closest actual note and keep the size intact, they'd probably have mentioned that in the sale of it if that were the case.
You can find instructions on the note patterns for use in different situations from jewish websites, but I don't know if those are authentic or just what they believe are authentic.
I can't think of any where in the bible that it specifies a way to play it except the final "long" burst before the wall comes down, which would also indicate some other technique prior to that.
An interesting bit of trivia, if the seven shofars played while marching around the wall were all tuned to different notes, by our modern definition of tuning, then those guys could have played pretty much any songs they knew while marching around that wall, if they traded off notes and timing the same way a group of people play the bells.
I thought for a second that somewhere in the OT, there was one specific pattern of bursts given, but now I think I might be imagining it, or confusing it with other literature. Wherever I saw that instruction was long ago, and I'd think I'd have seen it again by now, but I haven't.
Whatever the case, enjoy it. It kinda brings some mysterious thing from the bible a bit closer to home to go out in a pasture and blow that thing on a nice quiet weekend afternoon.
I found a church that actually uses the shofur in their service. The ministers, Adam Spears and John Klein believe that Christ completed and explained what God told about in the Old Testament, Christ gave a way to grow and didn't wipe everything out. They teach a lot from the book of Hebrews. They even have dancers at the service worshipping with the dances of David. They wrote the popular book "Lost in Translation". It is quite an experience, going there.
shofars? really?
why do you folks insist on antagonizing jews and embarrassing christianity.
for Christians - the 'shofar' signals Christ's victory over the power of sin and death.
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"As I go, one of the things that concerns me deeply is how much misunderstanding there is among believers. I never thought I would live to see the day when those who know the Lord and are born again were supporting the efforts of rabbis who, frankly, not only don't know Christ, but don't want to know Him.
To be an honest ministry, it can only come from the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit can only indwell those who have the new birth and are born again. Therefore, I would urge you to think very seriously before you support any "ministry" that involves Jewish people and doesn't actually bring the gospel to the Jews."
- from: Moishe Rosen's Farewell Letter (1932-2010)
why do you folks insist on antagonizing jews and embarrassing christianity.
for Christians - the 'shofar' signals Christ's victory over the power of sin and death.
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"As I go, one of the things that concerns me deeply is how much misunderstanding there is among believers. I never thought I would live to see the day when those who know the Lord and are born again were supporting the efforts of rabbis who, frankly, not only don't know Christ, but don't want to know Him.
To be an honest ministry, it can only come from the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit can only indwell those who have the new birth and are born again. Therefore, I would urge you to think very seriously before you support any "ministry" that involves Jewish people and doesn't actually bring the gospel to the Jews."
- from: Moishe Rosen's Farewell Letter (1932-2010)
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SHOFAR - ARE YOU CALLED TO THE SHOFAR MINISTRY?
Apostolic Evangelist Jim Barbarossa was called into the Shofar ministry in 1996 and is known internationally as The Shofar Man. God has used Jim to raise up sons and daughters in the Lord all over the world to answer the call to Shofar Ministry. His teachings include the following topics:
The ancient Jewish Shofar, Shofar Blowing, Yemenite Shofar, Rams Horn Shofar, how to buy a Shofar Horn, types of Shofar Sounds a typical Judaica Shofar will make, different types of Shofar For Sale, how to buy Shofar, different Shofar Sounds, and much more about Shofars and what to look for in a Shofar Sale.
In 1996, God called, appointed, and anointed Jim Barbarossa to teach on and blow the Shofar from a Biblical Christian perspective. Since then, Jim has been asked to blow the Shofar to start conferences all over the country. As Jim sounds this ancient Hebrew instrument of repentance, praise, worship, and warfare, the awesome presence of God is experienced and healings, miracles, signs and wonders follow.
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Shofar Ministry?
Apostolic Evangelist Jim Barbarossa was called into the Shofar ministry in 1996 and is known internationally as The Shofar Man. God has used Jim to raise up sons and daughters in the Lord all over the world to answer the call to Shofar Ministry. His teachings include the following topics:
The ancient Jewish Shofar, Shofar Blowing, Yemenite Shofar, Rams Horn Shofar, how to buy a Shofar Horn, types of Shofar Sounds a typical Judaica Shofar will make, different types of Shofar For Sale, how to buy Shofar, different Shofar Sounds, and much more about Shofars and what to look for in a Shofar Sale.
In 1996, God called, appointed, and anointed Jim Barbarossa to teach on and blow the Shofar from a Biblical Christian perspective. Since then, Jim has been asked to blow the Shofar to start conferences all over the country. As Jim sounds this ancient Hebrew instrument of repentance, praise, worship, and warfare, the awesome presence of God is experienced and healings, miracles, signs and wonders follow.
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Shofar Ministry?
Would you give scripture to show that when the shofar was blown it was to announce Christ's victory over the power of sin and death? I thought that was done at the resurrection, not when scripture tells of blowing shofar.
If these words by this Rosen you seem to think are of such wisdom rather than scripture, how is it that he doesn't seem to know that the 4,000 years of life on earth the bible tells of was a preparation for Christ? He seems to feel they are, instead, something that interferes with Christ. He says the gospel through the Holy Spirit is important, nothing new in that. But what in the world has that fact to do with the shofar?
If these words by this Rosen you seem to think are of such wisdom rather than scripture, how is it that he doesn't seem to know that the 4,000 years of life on earth the bible tells of was a preparation for Christ? He seems to feel they are, instead, something that interferes with Christ. He says the gospel through the Holy Spirit is important, nothing new in that. But what in the world has that fact to do with the shofar?
SHOFAR - ARE YOU CALLED TO THE SHOFAR MINISTRY?
Apostolic Evangelist Jim Barbarossa was called into the Shofar ministry in 1996 and is known internationally as The Shofar Man. God has used Jim to raise up sons and daughters in the Lord all over the world to answer the call to Shofar Ministry. His teachings include the following topics:
The ancient Jewish Shofar, Shofar Blowing, Yemenite Shofar, Rams Horn Shofar, how to buy a Shofar Horn, types of Shofar Sounds a typical Judaica Shofar will make, different types of Shofar For Sale, how to buy Shofar, different Shofar Sounds, and much more about Shofars and what to look for in a Shofar Sale.
In 1996, God called, appointed, and anointed Jim Barbarossa to teach on and blow the Shofar from a Biblical Christian perspective. Since then, Jim has been asked to blow the Shofar to start conferences all over the country. As Jim sounds this ancient Hebrew instrument of repentance, praise, worship, and warfare, the awesome presence of God is experienced and healings, miracles, signs and wonders follow.
Shofar Ministry?
Apostolic Evangelist Jim Barbarossa was called into the Shofar ministry in 1996 and is known internationally as The Shofar Man. God has used Jim to raise up sons and daughters in the Lord all over the world to answer the call to Shofar Ministry. His teachings include the following topics:
The ancient Jewish Shofar, Shofar Blowing, Yemenite Shofar, Rams Horn Shofar, how to buy a Shofar Horn, types of Shofar Sounds a typical Judaica Shofar will make, different types of Shofar For Sale, how to buy Shofar, different Shofar Sounds, and much more about Shofars and what to look for in a Shofar Sale.
In 1996, God called, appointed, and anointed Jim Barbarossa to teach on and blow the Shofar from a Biblical Christian perspective. Since then, Jim has been asked to blow the Shofar to start conferences all over the country. As Jim sounds this ancient Hebrew instrument of repentance, praise, worship, and warfare, the awesome presence of God is experienced and healings, miracles, signs and wonders follow.
Shofar Ministry?
Both you and I have pointed out that if rituals are used as an end in themselves they are wrong in God's eyes. And you have never been able to quietly consider any of this, now you post a ritual!
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naw, I assume OP is just a guy who innocently wants to know what it was like to hold and make a noise with a shofar. Like I did at one point.
And it only costs him about $20 to find out (hopefully)
As far as the references to people using them in church services, I'd wager it's no worse than reciting the apostle's creed in monotone, or singing verses 1,3, and 4 of a hymn but dropping verse 2 because they don't have time or because it doesn't sound "as holy" as the other verses.
And it only costs him about $20 to find out (hopefully
)As far as the references to people using them in church services, I'd wager it's no worse than reciting the apostle's creed in monotone, or singing verses 1,3, and 4 of a hymn but dropping verse 2 because they don't have time or because it doesn't sound "as holy" as the other verses.
naw, I assume OP is just a guy who innocently wants to know what it was like to hold and make a noise with a shofar. Like I did at one point.
And it only costs him about $20 to find out (hopefully)
As far as the references to people using them in church services, I'd wager it's no worse than reciting the apostle's creed in monotone, or singing verses 1,3, and 4 of a hymn but dropping verse 2 because they don't have time or because it doesn't sound "as holy" as the other verses.
And it only costs him about $20 to find out (hopefully
)As far as the references to people using them in church services, I'd wager it's no worse than reciting the apostle's creed in monotone, or singing verses 1,3, and 4 of a hymn but dropping verse 2 because they don't have time or because it doesn't sound "as holy" as the other verses.
where does scripture EVER tell christians to blow shofars.
answer: it doesnt.
you have no business doing any of that.
1 Corinthians 15
51Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality
Matthew 24:31
And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
salpigx: a trumpet
Original Word: σάλπιγξ, ιγγος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: salpigx
Phonetic Spelling: (sal'-pinx)
Short Definition: a trumpet
Definition: a trumpet, the sound of a trumpet.
HELPS Word-studies
4536 sálpigks – "properly, a war-trumpet" (WS, 797) that boldly announces God's victory (the vanquishing of His enemies).
In the OT, trumpets were used to called God's people to war, and to announce victory wrought by Him. That is, a military clarion that proclaimed the Lord inspired and empowered the victory on behalf of His people.
["The trumpet was the signal employed to call the hosts of Israel to march as to war, and is common in prophetic imagery (Is 27:13). Cf. The seventh angel (Rev 11:15)" (WP, 1, 193).
Trumpets in the OT summoned God's saints for His righteous wars (Nu 10:9; Jer 4:19; Joel 2:1). See also Lev 23:24,25; Nu 10:2-10; Ps 81:3.]
nothing. his warning for Christians (he was a jewish christian) was to stay away from Rabbinic `ministries`and buying into all that stuff.
honestly...who do you think you are dressing as a jew and behaving as a jew.
you say you love them - yet you have no problem antagonizing them.
the OT stuff was for ancient Israel; out of whom you came NOT.
their history is NOT your history.
youve been grafted into a New covenant; and theres not ONE call for humans to blow shofars - the only NT references are of ANGELS doing it.
you have NO business blowing shofars.
answer: it doesnt.
you have no business doing any of that.
1 Corinthians 15
51Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality
Matthew 24:31
And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
salpigx: a trumpet
Original Word: σάλπιγξ, ιγγος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: salpigx
Phonetic Spelling: (sal'-pinx)
Short Definition: a trumpet
Definition: a trumpet, the sound of a trumpet.
HELPS Word-studies
4536 sálpigks – "properly, a war-trumpet" (WS, 797) that boldly announces God's victory (the vanquishing of His enemies).
In the OT, trumpets were used to called God's people to war, and to announce victory wrought by Him. That is, a military clarion that proclaimed the Lord inspired and empowered the victory on behalf of His people.
["The trumpet was the signal employed to call the hosts of Israel to march as to war, and is common in prophetic imagery (Is 27:13). Cf. The seventh angel (Rev 11:15)" (WP, 1, 193).
Trumpets in the OT summoned God's saints for His righteous wars (Nu 10:9; Jer 4:19; Joel 2:1). See also Lev 23:24,25; Nu 10:2-10; Ps 81:3.]
nothing. his warning for Christians (he was a jewish christian) was to stay away from Rabbinic `ministries`and buying into all that stuff.
honestly...who do you think you are dressing as a jew and behaving as a jew.
you say you love them - yet you have no problem antagonizing them.
the OT stuff was for ancient Israel; out of whom you came NOT.
their history is NOT your history.
youve been grafted into a New covenant; and theres not ONE call for humans to blow shofars - the only NT references are of ANGELS doing it.
you have NO business blowing shofars.
We open our service with blowing of the shofars. Nothing too terribly spiritual there, other that calling the Body to wake up and get ready to minister and be ministered to.
There are 2 basic types of shofars. The smaller Ram's horn, which is slightly smaller than a half-circle, and what's often called an African Kudu, which is a longer twisted shofar. We have a Kudu shofar about 36" long, tip to tip. I can get 5 octaves and sometimes a very weak 6th. (but I used to play the trumpet.) Obviously with a longer shofar, you can get a larger airway that allows you to get more octaves)
There are 2 basic types of shofars. The smaller Ram's horn, which is slightly smaller than a half-circle, and what's often called an African Kudu, which is a longer twisted shofar. We have a Kudu shofar about 36" long, tip to tip. I can get 5 octaves and sometimes a very weak 6th. (but I used to play the trumpet.) Obviously with a longer shofar, you can get a larger airway that allows you to get more octaves)