Some question for you to explain to me

[CRC]

Authentication is not nullified by variation.!!!!

 

[4enlightment]

I believe that the rich man was Herod or one of his siblings. At the time Jesus wasn't able to speak of them because the pharisees weren't far away and waiting for Jesus to have said the wrong thing so that they can find a reason to get rid of Him.

Matthew 22:17
Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not?”

Siblings of Herod: Herod Antipas, Herod Archelaus, Philip the Tetrarch, Herod Philip, Antipater II, Aristobulus IV, Salome, Cypros, Alexander, son of Herod, Salampsio, Olympias, Herod, Roxanne, Phasael

Herod Archelaus was the ethnarch of Samaria, Judea, and Idumea from 4 BC to 6 AD. He was the son of Herod the Great and Malthace the Samaritan, the brother of Herod Antipas, and the half-brother of ... Wikipedia





Born: 23 BC



Died: 18 AD



Parents: Herod the Great



Siblings: Herod Antipas, Herod Philip

 

[Elin]

Hey, I got some questions, I was reading Luke 16 and 15. I saw that Jesus is talking parables in theae two chapter, but when it gets to the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Is he still talking in parables or is he talking literal?
Luke 16: 19-31

Also, I was reading the resurrection of christ in all 4 books and I saw that the four books dont agree with each other
Matthew 28:1-10
Mark 16:1-8
Luke 24:1-12
John 10:1-10

I read this carefully and i see that there was different number of women coming to the burial place. Different number of angels, different places that the angel were, and also different times. Sunrise and the Sunset
Why are these verses different

Are you a practicing Christian, luis?

When were you saved by faith in the blood of Christ (Ro 3:25)?

 

[Elin]

The fact that Jesus uses a specific name (Lazarus) , and that in his description of the event he is precise and graphic tends to lead us to believe it was an actual occurrence. It is indeed a solemn warning to those who have not received his gift of eternal life. Hell is a very real, horrific place where one is in eternal, conscious torment forever.

Regarding the four Gospel accounts of the resurrection, here is how they are all reconciled:
A cursory reading of the resurrection in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John reveals a few differences in the recorded facts. While these supposed discrepancies sometimes alarm modern readers, they tend not to concern historians because any differences are merely relegated to secondary details.
In each Gospel account the core story is the same: Joseph of Arimathea takes the body of Jesus and puts it in a tomb, one or more of Jesus’ female followers visit the tomb early on the Sunday morning following his crucifixion, and they find that the tomb is empty. They see a vision of either one or two angels who say that Jesus is risen. Despite the differences concerning the women’s number and names, the exact time of the morning and the number of angels, we can have great confidence in the shared core story that would be agreed upon by the majority of New Testament scholars today....
The differences between the empty tomb narratives are indicative of multiple, independent affirmations of the story. Sometimes people say, “Matthew and Luke just plagiarized from Mark,” but when one examines the narratives closely, the divergences suggest that even if Matthew and Luke did know Mark’s account, they also had separate, independent sources....
While that may be enough to satisfy historians, also consider that many of the alleged contradictions in the Gospel accounts are rather easily reconciled. For example, the accounts vary in the reported time of the visit to the tomb. One writer describes it as “still dark” (John 20:1), another says it was “very early in the morning” (Luke 24:1), and another says it was “just after sunrise” (Mark 16:2). But if the visit was “at dawn,” (Matthew 28:1), they were likely describing the same thing with different words.
As for the number and names of the women, none of the Gospels pretends to give a complete list. They all include Mary Magdalene, and Matthew, Mark, and Luke also cite other women, so there was probably a group of these early disciples that included those who were named and probably a couple of others. Perhaps when the women came, Mary Magdalene arrived first and that’s why only John mentions her. That’s hardly a contradiction. In terms of whether there were/was one angel (Matthew) or two (John) at Jesus’ tomb, have you ever noticed that whenever you have two of anything, you also have one? It never fails. Matthew didn’t say there was only one. John was providing more detail by saying there were two.

There can be something record differently and be the same. Seen 2 doesnt make it 1.
And the lazarus story looks more like a parable than reality

Non-responsive to the major points of the article.

 

[Elin]

It's probably a good thing that they are not perfectly the same. If they where, then one could say, if there were multiple witnesses, then how can they be credible if they are all exactly the same; meaning they conspired together . The fact they they are different, shows we have many different witnesses to the same account .

While the writers may not have been overly concerned that we have an exhaustive account, of every single minute detail . I'm sure If you study into it, you'll see many good reasons why, there are those subtle differences . That takes study.

That takes study in faith with obedience (Jn 7:17).

 

[Elin]

Then which of the account is the truth. How many angels?
How many women?
What is peter doing there?
Where were the angels?

And they are not witness because if they were witness that mean they were there watching..

Soo many question

So little (zero) saving faith and obedience.

 

[Elin]

They are all true accounts. The important thing to note, is that there was a resurrection, and the teachings of Christ are there. That is whats important. If you get hung up on details like how many angels are standing around , and other small details that can't teach you anything important. Then you just might begin to miss the importance of the things Christ and the disciples taught about .

And in such false concerns is revealed lack of saving faith.

 

[homwardbound]

Then which of the account is the truth. How many angels?
How many women?
What is peter doing there?
Where were the angels?

And they are not witness because if they were witness that mean they were there watching..

Soo many question

No one can answer these in truth for you, only God if you beleive and have received you will see
So, seek:
Romans 9:15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

Romans 9:18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
Romans 11:30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,




Romans 11:32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

Seek Mercy to be Justified from God the Father through the Son Christ

[h=3]Luke 18:9-14[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[h=3]The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector[/h][SUP]9 [/SUP]To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: [SUP]10 [/SUP]“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. [SUP]11 [/SUP]The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. [SUP]12 [/SUP]I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
[SUP]14 [/SUP]“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

Once you decide to beleive God and read, God will reveal the truth to you, me and all who are diligent to know God as God is


[h=3]Hebrews 8:11[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.

 

[Elin]

Im not a Christian, i used to be and like you i used to believe everything. But when i started thinking by myself and read carefully. I started to see clear. I couldnt see this before and now i can. Why? Because now im using my mind to think for myself.
And when i read this over and over. Who ever told this story to this writter he told them different story. Which is weird

Well, there is the answer to your problem.

Scripture can be understood only by those who have saving faith, because understanding comes
from the Holy Spirit.

God doesn't throw his pearls before swine who have no Holy Spirit.

 

[Elin]

Is good to notice small details because when you have to put all your trust in something you got to know everything about it. And if there is something that is wrong or not in harmony. That means is not right

Your trust is based on your own self-effort because you have no Holy Spirit.

That is not Biblical trust, of the power of grace, which is given to those of saving faith.

 

[homwardbound]

Is good to notice small details because when you have to put all your trust in something you got to know everything about it. And if there is something that is wrong or not in harmony. That means is not right

If one knows every thing then there is no need for Faith, belief in a merciful God shown to us through Son Christ the way, the truth and the new life her today in the Spirit of Father

 

[homwardbound]

Then which of the account is the truth. How many angels?
How many women?
What is peter doing there?
Where were the angels?

And they are not witness because if they were witness that mean they were there watching..

Soo many question

It was witnessed by over 500 people that he was risen and is risen form the dead
It is what it is, and only god can show you the truth that sets you free, sorry you are not seeing this, but love you regardless as God does in 1 cor. 13:4-13

 

[homwardbound]

One problem, in this article the guy is trying to put the story together.
Ima put the verse and tell me how can u put it together.

Matthew. Marry and the other women come with her and see the angel removing the rock and he sat down on the rock. They left joyful and jesus appear to them and hug him.

Mark. Marry and two other women come with her and they ask who is going to remove the rock, but the rock is already remove, they go inside And saw one angel sitting. And they left

Luke They came to the burial place, the rock was already removed. They went inside and there was no one. Then two angel appears. They left to tell the diciples. Peter came and he was amazed and left.

John. Marry came saw the rock removed, she when to tell the disciples. Peter and another deciple came saw nothing and left.
Marry was still outside crying and she look inside and saw two angels sitting . I guessing she went inside and the angel told her stuff, then jesus was behind her. But then jesus told her not to touch her.

So put the story together that makes perfect sense please

If all these written accounts from each person were exactly the same then I would ? it.
Thanks for the reassurance of the truth, no matter what Christ is risen, and we are to in the Spirit if we beleive and God has shown us this

 

[Elin]

Thinking is a dangerous thing for some people. If you don't know how to do it :/

It takes, years, and years, to study the Bible. It's a life long effort. Your not going to be able to learn it all, without some really effort, over a long period of time. With prayer and study with understanding. Its just kinda sad to think, what people throw away on a whim.

Won't happen without saving faith.

 

[homwardbound]

Let say u and someone else were suspect of a murder and they police come and question you both about what happened. And u both say a different story. They gonna say, one of you is lying.

Which is the fight of flesh and the Spirit of God in the resurrected Christ, you are from flesh fighting the Spirit of truth of God he did what he did bottom line
tell me do beleive he rose from the dead and is alive and on the right hand of Father resting for now?

 

[Elin]

You ever play the game telephone ? One person can hear something from someone else, Or, even witness the same thing even:
Yet, people are only able to remember what most stands out to them.

And, if your very active with many things going on, I can see how some small details can be overlooked, or remembered over another detail , because it stood out more in your mind.

It may be , that the rock was moved, and that's what could be remembered and Christ resurrected was the important thing to note to one, and the other, could recall the angels .

This is all good, because if they all alined perfectly, that would mean there maybe was not as many witnesses to the events.

The very fact we have different angles something can be viewed at, instead of one, allows us to see the same event from different peoples perspectives .

If your looking for one perfect account from one person; then your actually limiting what information you can have.

The problem is simple, and it can't be fixed; i.e., the door to understanding the Scripture is saving faith,

and those who reject Christianity have barred that door.

It's not complicated.

 

[Elin]

Let say u and someone else were suspect of a murder and they police come and question you both about what happened. And u both say a different story. They gonna say, one of you is lying.

Straw man.

 

[Elin]

The fact that each writer does not include every woman who went to the tomb, does not constitute a contradiction. All four gospels report that Mary Magdalene went to the tomb of Christ. John chose to focus on Magdalene, but does not say she was alone. Its the same with telling the apostles about the empty tomb, all 4 gospels report Magdalene, but some mention the other women. No contradiction in what happened, some just reported the occurrence in more detail. If one of them said that Mary Magdalene did not go to the tomb or tell the apostles, then you would have a contradiction.

Matthew does not say the women saw an angel roll the stone away (Matthew 28:2). This occurred before the women arrived (Luke 24:2, Mark 16:4, John 20:1). The lad inside was an angel, all angels appear as young men.

They saw two angels at the tomb.

1. An angel rolls away stone from tomb before sunrise (Matt. 28:2-4). The guards seized with fear, eventually flee.
2. Women disciples visit the tomb and discover Christ missing (Matt. 28:1; Mark 16:1-4; Luke 24:1-3; John 20:1)
3. Mary Magdalene leaves to tell Peter and John (John 20:1-2)
4. Other women remain at tomb; they see two angels who tell them of Christ’s resurrection (Matt. 18:5-7); Mark 16:5-7; Luke 24:4-8)
5. Peter and John run to the tomb and then leave (Luke 24:12; John 20:3-10)
6. Mary Magdalene returns to the tomb; She see's 2 angels standing at the head and feet of where the body had lain (John 20:12). Christ appears to her (Mark 16:9-11; John 20:11-18).
7. Jesus appears to the other women (Mary, mother of James, Salome, and Joanna) (Matt. 28:8-10).

No contradictions there.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Won't happen without saving faith.

Faith is indeed the key to spiritual understanding of Scripture and of the saving work of Christ.

Blessings.

 

[luis109g]

1 faith is blind faith.. is saying even if u dont understand or it dont make sense, just believe it okay. .

2. You need the holy spirit to understand, and all of you have the holy spirit as you say, but reading through this forum, you be fighting because there is different opinions, so which one is right if yall have the holy spirit. So the spirit tell one person something and another person sonething else,

3 indeed i was a Christian and even while been christian i saw some of this errors but i didnt question it because of my fear of hell, now that i have no fear im not scare to question my belief and do some research