A Question about Free Will, Hell and how it is all set up.
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Its hard for me to express my thoughts in English. Have you read some books from C.S. Lewis? It will illustrate it better.
Simply said - we are unable (now) to comprehend the spiritual reality, what will be heaven like, what will be hell like (will hell be eternal? etc) in new, spiritual Universe.
Therefore, your questions "how could a loving God..." is not possible to answer specifically. Like one dog cannot explain how my computer works to another dog.
We can respond only generally - "Because its the best way to do things and if God would limit evil in this universe (including people in hell) more, it would not be the best possible creation anymore".
Simply said - we are unable (now) to comprehend the spiritual reality, what will be heaven like, what will be hell like (will hell be eternal? etc) in new, spiritual Universe.
Therefore, your questions "how could a loving God..." is not possible to answer specifically. Like one dog cannot explain how my computer works to another dog.
We can respond only generally - "Because its the best way to do things and if God would limit evil in this universe (including people in hell) more, it would not be the best possible creation anymore".
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Because perfect love =/= sending people to Hell.
If perfect love is beyond my understanding because of my limited perspective then how can I know that I want it? You can say faith, but the same can be said of Satan tempting people to Hell. "How do I know that I want to deny God's perfect love, Satan? I do not fully know what it is."
"Faith" - Satan.
If perfect love is beyond my understanding because of my limited perspective then how can I know that I want it? You can say faith, but the same can be said of Satan tempting people to Hell. "How do I know that I want to deny God's perfect love, Satan? I do not fully know what it is."
"Faith" - Satan.
People choose sin because they are in rebellion against God. Most people know the consequences, but say to hell with it because they don't believe in God. They are smarter than all those sheeples, right? Basing our beliefs on ancient writings of primitive knuckle dragging cave dwelling goat herders. Yeah. I have actually been told that. How we are brainwashed and believe in fairy tales and have an imaginary friend, and can't think for ourselves, but they want to tell us what to believe instead, something they read in a book and never researched or experienced for themselves, when we have personal empirical experiential evidence and KNOW God. God resists the proud. He gives grace to the humble. Believe that He is loving and just, and knows better than any of us. His ways are not our ways. Don't mean to go all cliché on you. The birds are starting to sing here. I should go to bed 
It was lovely meeting you! Be encouraged. Keep seeking.
It was lovely meeting you! Be encouraged. Keep seeking.
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1. Why? Because we cannot have a perfect love, we are not able to say what it is or what it is not.
2. God is not only love. God is a person, a person that chooses what is best. And when He makes a decision, its not driven by love only. Its driven by what is best, including love, justice, glory, teaching, forming of adult beings, wisdom etc.
2. God is not only love. God is a person, a person that chooses what is best. And when He makes a decision, its not driven by love only. Its driven by what is best, including love, justice, glory, teaching, forming of adult beings, wisdom etc.
How am I supposed to believe in God if I cannot see him and he does not make sense? There are in infinite number of things that I can dream up that I can't see and that don't make sense. There is no reason to believe in one of those things over any of the others. I need something to at least make sense.
Welcome Kevin, the reason you have problems with this question is because the whole premise is wrong. The Bible uses carnal teachings to explain spiritual lessons. Once your eyes are open you can see the flaws, not in the words, but in how to understand it.
Let’s use a different analogy. Your body “creates” cells to serve the body for a function. As designed these cells work synergistically to moderate our health and maintain homeostasis. Let’s say a cell “chooses” to act on its own. Instead of fulfilling its role it eats indiscriminately and reproduces uncontrollably. The body has natural ways to fight cancer but if they are compromised the cancer continues, infecting all other systems that your body has created. So you get radiation/chemotherapy to kill everything then hope the cancer doesn’t return....but it does.
Are you with me? We are the cancer. Just like the cancerous cells behave selfishly ignoring their purpose apart from the system, we have also. Don’t confuse what is metaphor in scripture with what were actual events. I will warn you ahead of time, most Christians are reading but not perceiving. Many will disagree with me and miss the point, just like they did with Christ. They disagreed and misunderstood up to the point of killing Him. At least you can identify there are unreconcilable flaws with interpretation.
Let’s use a different analogy. Your body “creates” cells to serve the body for a function. As designed these cells work synergistically to moderate our health and maintain homeostasis. Let’s say a cell “chooses” to act on its own. Instead of fulfilling its role it eats indiscriminately and reproduces uncontrollably. The body has natural ways to fight cancer but if they are compromised the cancer continues, infecting all other systems that your body has created. So you get radiation/chemotherapy to kill everything then hope the cancer doesn’t return....but it does.
Are you with me? We are the cancer. Just like the cancerous cells behave selfishly ignoring their purpose apart from the system, we have also. Don’t confuse what is metaphor in scripture with what were actual events. I will warn you ahead of time, most Christians are reading but not perceiving. Many will disagree with me and miss the point, just like they did with Christ. They disagreed and misunderstood up to the point of killing Him. At least you can identify there are unreconcilable flaws with interpretation.
People choose sin because they are in rebellion against God. Most people know the consequences, but say to hell with it because they don't believe in God. They are smarter than all those sheeples, right? Basing our beliefs on ancient writings of primitive knuckle dragging cave dwelling goat herders. Yeah. I have actually been told that. How we are brainwashed and believe in fairy tales and have an imaginary friend, and can't think for ourselves, but they want to tell us what to believe instead, something they read in a book and never researched or experienced for themselves, when we have personal empirical experiential evidence and KNOW God. God resists the proud. He gives grace to the humble. Believe that He is loving and just, and knows better than any of us. His ways are not our ways. Don't mean to go all cliché on you. The birds are starting to sing here. I should go to bed It was lovely meeting you! Be encouraged. Keep seeking.
It was lovely meeting you! Be encouraged. Keep seeking.
