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drichgirl

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Read (Gen 1:6-10) very carefully, the gathering together of the waters he called seas was only good because it let the dry land appear. This water was water that was under the firmament.(not good). The water above the firmament good.
Then of course night (evening) is always not a good thing (John 9:4 )& (John 11:10) and others. This ties into the fall of Lucifer thread.
 
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I'm so sorry I don't seem to know how to post correctly and I'm messing up your thread, perhaps I should find another forum. Sorry.
 
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I'm so sorry I don't seem to know how to post correctly and I'm messing up your thread, perhaps I should find another forum. Sorry.
*Gives you a hug*

It's okay. Nobody is perfect except God. I created this thread so as to glorify Jesus Christ. I wanted to uplift His Word and have Christians come together (That may not always agree on everything) to post in a postive way (preferably with Scripture) on God's Stories.

If you disagree about something, all you have to do is mention why you disagree in one or two sentences and then create another thread with a posted link to that thread to debate the topic (So as to not derail this thread or discussion). For I wanted this to be a study thread and not a debate thread. Sometimes debating God's Word can be fruitful and helpful. But in this case, I wanted believers to come together in peace and in sharing what they know.

But you do not have to leave. If you feel the urge to debate or disagree, then just provide a link for people to discuss that debate or disagreement elsewhere in the Bible forums section.

Hope you stick around to comment in a postive way on the stories we are discussing.


Side Note:

If you don't know how to create another thread and leave a posted link, please feel free to PM me and I will be happy to help.
 
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As for Commenting about the first chapter of the Devil' Story (i.e. Lucifer's Fall):

I wanted to also add that while Lucifer had fallen, people today do not have to be fallen like him (or stay in his fallen kingdom). They can repent and trust in Jesus and put on the whole armor of God so as to be able to (above all) to just .....

"stand."

For people today do not have to be fallen (like Lucifer). They can now "stand" in Jesus Christ.

(For the Armor of God reference, see Ephesians 6:10-17).
 
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I heard one guy say that when God created in the 6 days recorded in Genesis, it included angels. He quoted this verse to prove his point:

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. Ge.2:1
Dear Jdbear:

Okay, now I can reply to your post seeing we are on the topic of angels (And we are still under the window of recent discussion of God's Creation). Granted, I do not want to turn this into a debate, but I do want to reply to your post. If you disagree (still), create a thread with an available link to it. Anyways, to get down to business in reply to what you had written:

Is not Heaven the Kingdom of God? Are not hosts or angels a part of Heaven (or the Third Heaven as Paul calls it)?

For Jesus said in Matthew 19:4 that the creation of Adam and Eve was the beginning. Read what it says: “And he answered and said unto them, “Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female.” Romans 5:12 says that there was no death until Adam sinned, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.” Those who say that Satan fell from heaven and wiped out the pre-Adamic civilization are placing death before sin. They have just eliminated the need for Christ to die on the cross. There was no death until sin came into the world.

Now, some might say that the sons of God (angels) shouting for joy when God laid the foundations of the Earth in Job chapter 38.

However, folks have to understand that the Earth had no foundations yet because Genesis 1:2 clearly tells us that the Earth was without form and void. In other words, a foundation has a form and it is not void. Also, the chronology of when the angels were created is mentioned to us within Psalm 104.

Psalm 104:1-6KJ2 -

1 "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, you are very great; you are clothed with honor and majesty.

2 Who covers yourself with light as with a garment: who stretches out the heavens like a curtain:

3 Who lays the beams of his chambers in the waters: who makes the clouds his chariot: who walks upon the wings of the wind:

4 Who makes his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed forever.

6 You covered it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains."

Verse 2 - Light (Day One)
Verse 3 - The Heavens (Day Two)
Verse 4 - Creation of Angels
Verse 5 - Dry Land (Day Three)
(Foundations Laid) (The angels shouted for joy)

.... Gap of Time .....

Verse 6 - The Global Flood

Anyways, I hope this helps and may God bless you.

With loving kindness to you in Christ:

Sincerely,

~Jason.



Side Note:

Oh, and before someone mentions the passage in Jeremiah chapter 4 (that supposedly defends a pre-world existence. This passage in Jeremiah is actually describing the aftermath of the destruction of the Earth after the 7 year tribulation and Jesus' return and how it will soon then be purified by fire (similar to what the global flood had done). Then Jesus will create a whole new world off the ashes of the old one and reign for 1000 years, which is followed by the Judgment and the Eternal New Earth.

The Aftermath of The 7 Year Tribulation (Epilogue):
(The Conclusion of the Day of the Lord):

The Earth is A Dark & Desolate Wasteland:

Jeremiah 4:23ERV, Jeremiah 4:24AMP, Jeremiah 4:25ERV,
.. Jeremiah 4:26aISV, Jeremiah 4:26bWEB, Jeremiah 4:27GWT

I looked at the earth. It was empty; there was nothing on it. I looked at the sky, and its light was gone. I looked at the mountains, and... they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly to and fro. I looked, but there were no people. All the birds of the sky had flown away. I looked, and the fruitful land had become a desert. All its cities were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. This is what the LORD says: The whole earth will be ruined, although I will not destroy it completely.

The Earth is Purified by Fire:

(All Things Upon the Earth Are Destroyed By Fire)
(And the Polluted Atmosphere Passes Away With a Great Noise):

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come
as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

If your interested in seeing my full chronology of Revelation and the Olivet Discourse (I created with extensive commentaries), you can check that out here.

Source Used:
When did Satan fall from Heaven? | Creation Today
(Note: I do not hold to all the views expressed in this article and or website).
 
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In other words, Satan was once a good angel that was created on Day 2 of the Creation week and he fell sometime after God declared everything within his creation to be "very good."
 
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Story #2 - Adam and Eve's Story (Continued).
(We are continuing on after Chapter 1 of Adam and Eve's Story):

Brief Recap: In the 1st Chapter of Adam and Eve's Story we see Adam & Eve's creation and God commanding them not to eat of the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil."

Chapter 2: - The Fall of Adam and Eve.

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

And he said unto the woman,
"Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"

And the woman said unto the serpent,
"We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."

And the serpent said unto the woman,
"Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him,
"Where art thou?"

And he said,
"I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

And he said,
"Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

And the man said,
"The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."

And the LORD God said unto the woman,
"What is this that thou hast done?"

And the woman said,
"The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

And the LORD God said unto the serpent,
"Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

Unto the woman he said,
"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

And unto Adam he said,
"Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."

And Adam called his wife's name
"Eve";

Because she was the mother of all living.

Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

And the LORD God said,
"Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever":

Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. (Genesis 3:1-24).
 
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And The LORD God said,
"Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever":

Serious stuff
Lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life... We die any other way
 
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And The LORD God said,
"Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever":

Serious stuff
Lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life... We die any other way
It is indeed serious, my brother. For the wages (punishment) of sin is death (Romans 6:23). If they didn't die or had their bodies destroyed or erased in some way (like with Enoch's translation), then they couldn't partake in the bodily resurrection. Eating of that tree, means that their flesh and blood could never die and or have their body eliminated totally like with one being translated. For if Adam and Eve ate of the Tree of Life after their fall, they would have had to live forever in sinful flesh. But as we both know, God made sure that didn't happen, though.
 
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Story #2 - Adam and Eve's Story (Continued).
(We are continuing on after Chapter 1 of Adam and Eve's Story):

Brief Recap: In the 1st Chapter of Adam and Eve's Story we see Adam & Eve's creation and God commanding them not to eat of the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil."

Chapter 2: - The Fall of Adam and Eve.

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
The devil is subtle or crafty in the way he deceives people. We are to be as wise as serpents to know the devil's tactics so as not to be deceived by them. One of the devil's major subtle tactics is that he can appear as an angel of light (And not as something evil). For there are many wolves in sheeps clothing. For many of the devil's minions have been transformed into the ministers of righteousness and are deceiving people. For the pharisees appeared as ministers of righteousness, too. But Jesus labeled them as a brood of vipers, though. Here is a really great article that goes more into detail about it.

Be Wise as Serpents

And he said unto the woman,
"Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"
In one of the devil's subtle tactics in appearing to give good advice, the devil will use:

Devil's Tactic #1 - "Question & Remove God's Word & Focus on a Half Truth within His Word"

"Yea, hath God said, ....?

The devil was trying to get her to question God's Word by getting her to focus on one part or truth of His Word (While removing from God's other words). We see this happening all the time today. The devil get's people doubt to God's Word is true or accurate. They question it. "Yea, hath God said, ...?" Others have fallen into deception and they create false theologies or false truths within Scripture. They will look at one part of Scripture that is true and yet they will ignore and twist other portions of His Word (Thereby removing God's words). In other words, many hold onto a half truths within God's Word (and are blinded to what God's Word really says).

And the woman said unto the serpent,
"We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."
Eve quotes God's Word and says if they eat of the tree in the middle of the Garden, they will die. God's reference to death here is talking about spiritual death and physical death (More on this to come).

And the serpent said unto the woman,
"Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
Devil's Tactic #2 - "God's Word is a lie & Yet Focus on a Half Truth within His Word (To Make it Sound Good)"

The devil just flat out lies about what God's Word says and he focuses again on another half truth in Scripture to make it sound good. Again, many just flat out lie about what God's Word actually says plainly today. Prospertiy preachers, Antinomianism teachers, and those who deny Jesus is God are just a few of them. It is evident that they are wrong in their twist on Scripture by the type of spirit that is moving within them (moving them to speak words that are inappropriate and un-Christ-like - Many times with no thought that what they are doing is wrong).

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Many today walk by sight and not by faith in God's Word. They see things like the fruit and trust that it is good for them. They make decisions based on one's fleshy (carnal) desires and not on the things unseen by trusting in God's Word by faith.

And the eyes of them both were opened,
It is interesting that it wasn't until Adam ate of the fruit until both of their eyes were open. This is just one of the pieces in Scripture that talks about "Federal Headship" (Which one can study in Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15). For it's one of the major reasons why Jesus could not have a human father.

and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
When one is naked today in the religious world, they do not trust in God's robe of righteousness, but they seek to cloth themselves with their own righteousness and focus on what they do instead of God has done for them. For God later gives them animal skins to cloth their nakedness. Their attempt to cloth themselves was inferior and unacceptable.

When Adam & Eve had heard God they were afraid about their wrong doing and so they looked to hide themselves, just like roaches seek to hide when the Light is turned on.

And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him,
"Where art thou?"
God asking "Where they are" was not in the fact that God did not know their location but it was to draw them out. It also spoke of their fallen spiritual condition, too (i.e. spiritual death). For if one has spiritual life, one has fellowship with God and they know Him.

And he said,
"I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

And he said,
"Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

And the man said,
"The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."

And the LORD God said unto the woman,
"What is this that thou hast done?"

And the woman said,
"The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

And the LORD God said unto the serpent,
This is the "name blame game." Oh, it's not my fault, the other person made me do it. Have you ever seen people who never admit that they are wrong and they always point to everyone else as the problem? However, many are prideful today and they would rather die than admit defeat that they could ever be wrong about anything. They are self righteous and without fault. We can see the "name blame game" even in Luke 18:9-14 when the Pharisee points to the Tax Collector and says he is better then him. When in reality we are all nothing and all our righteousness is as filthy rags. For it is only in God and His righteousness and what the Lord works thru us that counts.

"Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
This is part of the creation being cursed. Animals start to change, starting with the serpent.

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
This is a famous Messianic prophecy of Jesus Christ. Satan will be at enmity with the woman's seed because the devil later seeks to destroy many children who he believes to be the upcoming future Messiah. We see this in the Old Testament, but the most notable moment is of course in the beginning of the New Testament when Herod slaughters children in order to end the life of Jesus (Who is our promised king and Messiah).

The prophecy is saying, that this enmity between them will lead to the culmination (or final conclusion) of it bruising satan's head or power when Jesus dies upon the cross and is resurrected and that Satan will bruise HIS heel (i.e. the Messiah's heel) when he crucifies him.

Unto the woman he said,
"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
A woman's desire shall be to her husband and he shall have rule over her. This is not in the sense of rule as in being a dictator. This is rule as in with love and by leading with example. For men shall love their wives as Christ loves the church. For how can one hurt their own body if they are one flesh in marriage? However, that said, many today deny that a man should be the head of the household and or have ultimate authority in the church. Yes, we true believers are all one in Christ, but that does not mean there are different body parts (with different functions), though.

And unto Adam he said,
"Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."
Thorns and Thistles and Death is a part of the curse of the Fall. Death, here is speaking of physical death because Adam is going to return to the dust by which he came.

And Adam called his wife's name
"Eve";

Because she was the mother of all living.
Interesting that Eve is mentioned as the mother of all living at this point in Scripture here. I think it is stressing the importance that while they faced hardship and death, that there would also be life ---- A promised life of an upcoming Messiah to ultimately save them.

Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
God made the first sacrifice (by killing an animal to cloth their nakedness) and God made the last sacrifice (By sending His Son to cloth us with the robe of righteousness and cover our spiritually naked dead state by washing away our sins).

And the LORD God said,
"Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever":
Man shall be like one of us knowing good and evil. Man shall be like God. This was the problem. See, the devil told the truth that they shall be as gods. But God did not want this, though. Today, many seek to be their own gods and they do not seek to worship God in Spirit and in truth.
 
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God's Love

About God's love (sending His only son to die as sacrifice to pay our sins), I like to see also from the point of view of faith "before and after". The faith our patriarchs had, believing the King of Kings would come, and obeying God, even dying without seeing the first coming of Christ. They were brave, sometimes weak, but always loved by our Lord. And then, us, we believe in Jesus die and ressurection, that happened very before we were born, even not seeing His first coming too.
That's faith.
Jesus is returning soon.

Miqueias 5:2
Zacharias 9:9
Psalms 22:16-18
 
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The actual description of faith is defined for us in Hebrews chapter 11. It is further elaborated upon in James 2. Now, I am not promoting "salvation by works" here; But I do need to point out that a true born again faith will always be followed by works (Thereby confirming one's salvation). For one cannot obviously live in unrepentant sin and open rebellion against God and still be saved. That would make a believer no different than the world. In fact, I was actually just going over Hebrews 11 just now (before you posted) and I want to tie it in to Enoch's Story (That is upcoming). I believe there are some great lessons to learn from his story (That is briefly told in the Bible).

We are not saved by works because God does the work within a person after they repent of their sins and accept Jesus. But like I said, true faith will always confirm itself to be true with good fruit and not bad fruit.
 
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Story #4 - Caine and Abel's Story


Chapter 1:
- Am I My Brother's Keeper?


And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said,
"I have gotten a man from the LORD."

And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

And the LORD said unto Cain,
"Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."

And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

And the LORD said unto Cain,
"Where is Abel thy brother?"

And he said,
"I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

And he said,
"What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth."

And Cain said unto the LORD,
"My punishmentis greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me."

And the LORD said unto him,
"Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him."

And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (Genesis 4:1-17).


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Story #4 - Caine and Abel's Story
Not to be confused with "Michael Caine" the actor. This was simply a mispelling on my part of Cain's name. I added an "e" by mistake. Sorry, about that.

Chapter 1: - Am I My Brother's Keeper?

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said,
"I have gotten a man from the LORD."
Here we see Adam and Eve in having their first child. After Eve had just given birth to Cain, she said

"I have gotten a man from the LORD."

Wow. How different times have changed. Who actually says that today? Everyone just thinks they are the center of the universe and they make things to happen and not God. Eve was not giving herself the credit here but she was giving the credit to God. Too many times we see people (Even self professing Christians) who walk by sight and not by faith in the unseen. They think God is uninvolved in our current affairs. But Eve didn't think that way. She perfectly knew where the credit belonged in her having a child.

One of the reasons Eve said this is because her and Adam talked with God. They knew Him; And this was the first time a child has ever been born into this world. For Adam and Eve were created out of the dust from the ground directly by God during the six day creation. Things were different back then. Yes, Adam and Eve are no perfect than you and I; But they knew God (Unlike many today).

And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Abel was a type of Jesus Christ. He was a keeper of sheep and he obeyed God properly in keeping the right sacrifice. He also was betrayed by his brother and killed. Just as Jesus Christ was betrayed by his brother Judas and killed.

And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

And the LORD said unto Cain,
"Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."
Cain offered the wrong offering. He disobeyed God by offering the fruit from the ground and not an animal sacrifice as God wanted. In other words, Cain was the first person who partaken in the concept of what we would call a Biblical cult. He offered a sacrifice but it was not a sacrifice that God wanted. He was the first to man to twist the truth of God's ways.

Also, God knows what evil Cain is going to do, but God is still loving with Cain and desires him to see that his actions will have consequences. That if he does good, he will be accepted, and if he does not do good, he will give way to open the door to sin whereby he will be ruled by it. Paul in the New Testament speaks about being a slave to sin in Romans chapter 6. However, Paul encourages us to be slaves to righteousness and not sin. For Paul asks the question,

"Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?"

Paul replies, "God forbid."

Paul then shortly asks the question,

"Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"

In other words we have a choice. Free will. To decide one way or the other (With there being consequences to a certain action that we take).

And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
Cain killed his brother. John talks about how that no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. John also says to hate your brother is the equivalent of murdering him. No doubt Cain had hate towards his brother before murdering him. For we see Cain getting angry by the fact that his sacrifice not accepted by God. No doubt this hatred was focused upon Abel because he did what was right in the sight of the Lord.

The same thing happens today. Religious men hate those who obey God's Word. They may not murder them, but we do see a hatred in them like Cain over those true believers who seek to love God and to love all others (Including their enemies) (According to his Word).

And the LORD said unto Cain,
"Where is Abel thy brother?"

And he said,
"I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
Again, this question asked by God does not mean God does not know where Abel's brother is at. The Lord here is trying to get Cain to confess his wrong. For Jesus wants us to love our brothers. For Jesus said to Peter several times, "Do you love me?" When Peter replies in convincing the Lord that he does love him, Jesus then replies in saying to: "Feed his sheep." The sheep are our brothers and sisters in Christ. Abel was a shepherd or a keeper of sheep. Cain needed to have the spiritual attitude in being a shepherd to his brother. To look after to him and to care for him. To be a fellow companion in obeying God. To protect him. To feed and cloth him (If ths situation called for it). In other words, Cain was to love Abel. To know where he is at is to care about him. For Jesus seeks to go after in just one stray sheep that is lost. Jesus is a true shepherd and true brother.

Jesus is the ultimate keeper of the brethren. For Jesus can truly say, "I am my brother's keeper" because He will never leave us, nor forsake us. For even His disciples had scattered when he was captured. But Jesus is always with us no matter what.

And he said,
"What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth."
"The blood of sprinking, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." (Hebrews 12:24).

Abel offered animal sacrifices. But we know the blood of goats and bulls never took away sin. Only Jesus blood paid the price for the sins of the entire world so that man can accept His free gift of salvation.

Also, Abel's blood cried out from the ground in vengeance. For God responds in punishing Cain for taking Abel's life by cursing him and banishing him away so as to be a vagabond in the Earth.

But Jesus blood did not cry out for vengeance, though. Jesus blood brings peace and salvation to all who believe and follow Him.

And Cain said unto the LORD,
"My punishmentis greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me."
Notice how Cain does not get it? He is focused on little ole "ME." But he is not focused on what he did wrong. From the beginning he is concerned with only himself. He offers his own sacrifice and not God's sacrifice. He takes Abel's life because he is angry at him. When asked by God (The Most Hight God who is Holy and perfect and all powerful), Cain doesn't break down in tears and sob and confess his sin. Cain again thinks only of himself and shows his lack of concern when he says, "Am I my brother's keeper?" Then when God does cast Judgment upon him for his sin, he is again concerned for only himself and thinks of how he might be killed now. He is selfish and not selfless like a true child of God who seeks to love God and all others.

And the LORD said unto him,
"Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him."
Cain was given a mark by God. This was not the same type of mark of protection like the 144,000 will be given in the future (As we read in Revelation). Cain's mark was a mark of vengeance. That those who did slay him, would face God's vengeance seven fold. In a way this could have been a deterrent to certain foes against Cain, but it was not a 100% guarantee that nobody could harm him, though.

And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (Genesis 4:1-17).
Cain went out from the presence of the Lord. This is suggestive that Cain was on his own now. He made his bed and it was without God.

Cain continues to have a life elsewhere and has a son named Enoch. In fact, instead of Cain naming a city after God, Cain shows the path he has taken, by focusing on that which is carnal, and names a city after his son (Enoch). This is not the same Enoch in the line of Seth that walked with God.
 
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I think Cain killed out of emotions like most do, controlling ones emotions is very necessary, he was jealous of Able, And lead to anger, then hate, then murderer, when God banished him, it set him further apart from God then he already was.
 
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I think Cain killed out of emotions like most do, controlling ones emotions is very necessary, he was jealous of Able, And lead to anger, then hate, then murderer, when God banished him, it set him further apart from God then he already was.
I agree, my brother.
 
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Glad you agree brother Jason, I think it says a lot for the death penalty we have today as well, if God left this murderer alive why shouldn't we?
 
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Glad you agree brother Jason, I think it says a lot for the death penalty we have today as well, if God left this murderer alive why shouldn't we?
Indeed. Very true. But as the Scriptures essentially say, the love of many will wax cold. In other words, things will keep getting darker and darker before Christ's return, my friend.
 
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Yes sir, I believe that, getting worse, glad to see and hold some light, as you brother, we have a big giant in front of us. Good thing I brought my rocks ..