A Study of the Scriptures: All the Stories in the Bible.

[Jason0047]

Story #5 - Enoch's Story

~ A Walk with God. ~

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying,
"Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."
(Jude 1:14-15).

By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. (Hebrews 11:5).

And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. (Genesis 5:24).


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[Marian29]

I know you were not addressing me, but I want you to know that while we may not always say things perfectly (myself included), you are still more than welcome to stick around and still comment on the Stories in the Bible.

While I may voice my beliefs about God and His Word passionately, I strive not to attack people personally or put them down. For you will get nothing but my love to you as a fellow member in Christ.

Anyways, please be well.
And hope to see you still comment.

Thank you,

I know no one is better than the other..

I ask apologize again to who I would have offended, it wasn't my intention

May God guide us in this thread.

 

[Jason0047]

Story #5 - Enoch's Story

~ A Walk with God. ~

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying,

Enoch was the seventh from Adam. Seven occurs hundreds of times within Revelation and in many other places in the Bible. Seven has a meaning of perfection or completion. For example, the seventh day is the completion of the week and it is the day that God gave man time to rest. In the New Testament, we learn that Jesus Christ is our true rest. No doubt Enoch had entered into this type of rest.

"Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him." (Jude 1:14-15).

Also, we see here that Enoch declares the end from the beginning (i.e. the generations of Adam in the beginning). For Isaiah 46:10 says,

"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

Enoch speaks of the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ (followed by ten thoudands of his saints) to execute judgment upon all that should live ungodly or in sin. See, Enoch did not live in unrepentant sin. He walked with God and knew Him. For when one walks with God they are in agreement with each other. For the Scriptures ask us the question,

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" (Amos 3:3).

This is what always boggles my mind about the Antinomianists or those that say that they can sin and still be saved (with no remorse for their sin). They think they can walk out of fellowship with God and live ungodly lives because all they have to do is just have a mental acknowledgment of Jesus alone. There is no confessing of one's sins or repentance that is needed for them. There is no need to live upright or holy before the Lord for them. One can serve two masters (i.e. God and sin). But it doesn't work like that, though. Enoch from the very beginning warns us about those who live ungodly. He prophecies that the Lord's return will be for the purpose of executing judgment to CONVINCE ALL who live ungodly lives.

By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. (Hebrews 11:5).

Enoch was translated and he did not see death. His body was translated from the physical to the spiritual by God. See, this method of being taken home could not work for Adam and Eve at any point if they were to partake of the Tree of Life. For if they were to eat of the Tree of Life after the fall, they could no longer die or have their bodies eliminated (by a spiritual translation). They would have been trapped to live forever in their fallen bodies (which had a fleshy or sinful nature).

Also, what is beautiful is that Enoch had the testimony by the Lord Himself that he pleased God. Imagine having a testimony like that. Wouldn't that be amazing? To know that you lived in such a way (righteously) whereby God would be so happy with you that He told you He was pleased with you? To be taken home directly by God and not see death?

And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. (Genesis 5:24).

Enoch walked in God's righteous ways before God took him. He was not. Meaning, he was once in physical world or existence and then he seized to be out of our physical existence. For he was there and then he was gone.

Also, Enoch is a parallel of the Pre-Trib Rapture. He is translated before God's Judgment or trial hits the Earth with the Global Flood, just as the remaining church (who are alive) will be translated to meet the Lord in the air.

 

[Brainfreeze]

I agree, the words speak for themselves " a new creation in Christ" but to be righteous and perfect are two different things, you have to be righteous to reap perfection, but we are not God, it is a daily battle of the flesh, you might be battling over eating, while this one still curses when he stubs his toe, the other still battling greed, to say you are perfect and dole out your judgment on others is wrong to me and not of God, now to teach repentance and salvation through Christ, sounds "righteous"

 

[Jason0047]

Enoch is not talking about those who struggle with sin and seek to put it away thru repentance or confession. Enoch is talking about those who live ungodly lives as a way of life. They live in sin habitually like they breath in air. Their thoughts are evil continually like with those who perish in the global flood. One who believes they can serve God and serve sin is double minded in all his ways. The solution is walking after the Spirit as mentioned in Galatians chapter 5. For the more we excercise I spiritual muscles with the Spirit, the stronger one becomes in their walk with God.

As for perfection: One is not perfect unless they are first born again and they walk with God and they crucify the affections and lusts with the Lord's help. This is not an overnight process for most people. But God does call us to be ye Holy as He is Holy. For it is what the Scriptures say.

As for Judging Others: Most people misunderstand: "judge not lest ye be judged yourself." This passage is talking about judging hypocritically. But I do understand where you are coming from. I strive not to attack people personally. I strive to attack wrong beliefs or false churches or evil doctrines. I think one's walk needs to be strong with God and they have to be overcome by the Spirit to judge another personally. But Jesus said that we can judge righteous judgment. The Scriptures say we are not to have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but we are to rather reprove them. Paul even judged others righteously. So it is not in the fact that we can't judge others, it just needs to be done under the appropriate circumstances and it must always be done in love. In fact, when one has a belief about right and wrong, one cannot help but to judge, whether one opens their mouth or not.

 

[Marian29]

I don't believe the Scriptures are fiction (If that is what you are trying to say). Also, your response here did not address the two verses I quoted which support why I believe the Stories in the Bible speaks to us (i.e. the Scriptures can talk to us). For I believe they are divinely inspired and can open a person's understanding and heart. If you disagree or desire to reply on this point, please start another thread to express what you are really trying to say. But please do not discuss that here, though. I already made these types of discussions off limits in the OP (Original Post). This thread is about discussing the Stories in the Bible. It is not a debate thread, my friend. It is a Study Thread whereby we are to share comments on the stories in the Bible.

Side Note: Oh, and calling me "bro" sounds like "dude." It sounds sarcastic in tone (From my experience). I hope that was not your intention, my friend. For if it was, it would be un-Christian and or unloving.

I think royalscot just wanted to say the title of the thread uses the word "STORIES". There is a difference between "STORIES" and "HISTORIES".

STORY or STORIES means = fiction.
HISTORY or HISTORIES means = truth.

It's normal to be confused.

God bless.

 

[Brainfreeze]

1 John 4:18 - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

If people want to preach condemning others, let them, I will lead them to God and to repentance and of love.
I know I'm not perfect, I get angry sometimes, I might even smoke a cigarette every few hours, I'm still a warrior, fighter for God, with all my armor of God, new creation in Christ though, and no one can tell or convince me other wise, God knows my heart personally, my walk and cross maybe a little heavy then others, He address are needs as such, so trying to bunch everyone in and judge, you can't because you don't know their circumstances, you don't know their heart, as we agree, the Spirit convicts with God doing the judging, slight disagreement but I respect your opinion brother Jason,

When God said move the log out of your own eye first, I think he was saying, some will have specks in their eyes and He is working on them, not for us to do. He knows what needs to be done not us, all we know is what's right and the truth. God doesn't act on our time, He has His own, do you see what I'm saying brother?

 

[Brainfreeze]

I guess what I'm saying we can judge right and wrong, but not hearts and people, as said in a few other threads.
I apologize for getting off topic all.

 

[Jason0047]

I think royalscot just wanted to say the title of the thread uses the word "STORIES". There is a difference between "STORIES" and "HISTORIES".

STORY or STORIES means = fiction.
HISTORY or HISTORIES means = truth.

It's normal to be confused.

God bless.

When a person walks into a book store or a library, there is a non fiction section and a fiction section. You can ask someone for non fiction stories and it would be grammatically correct to say that because that is what they are.

In fact, Dictionary.com defines the word "story" as a narrative that is either fictitious or true.

Story | Define Story at Dictionary.com

However, I am glad you brought this up, though; For I noticed that the word "histories" is like a play on the words "His Stories."

 

[Brainfreeze]

Com'on guys, it's easy judge the sin, not the sinner

has nothing to do with scifi, fiction and non, God said this is simple, the devil is one of confusion, God is love, period.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Can we get back to Gods truths, stories, books, whatever we want to call them. Let whoever think what they want, stay focused brothers.

 

[Marian29]

I guess what I'm saying we can judge right and wrong, but not hearts and people, as said in a few other threads.
I apologize for getting off topic all.

I totally agree with you.
I ask apologize.
I was stressed, I had just arrived from hospital, many tough things happening in the same time.

Let's go on.

God bless.

 

[Jason0047]

1 John 4:18 - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

If people want to preach condemning others, let them, I will lead them to God and to repentance and of love.
I know I'm not perfect, I get angry sometimes, I might even smoke a cigarette every few hours, I'm still a warrior, fighter for God, with all my armor of God, new creation in Christ though, and no one can tell or convince me other wise, God knows my heart personally, my walk and cross maybe a little heavy then others, He address are needs as such, so trying to bunch everyone in and judge, you can't because you don't know their circumstances, you don't know their heart, as we agree, the Spirit convicts with God doing the judging, slight disagreement but I respect your opinion brother Jason,

When God said move the log out of your own eye first, I think he was saying, some will have specks in their eyes and He is working on them, not for us to do. He knows what needs to be done not us, all we know is what's right and the truth. God doesn't act on our time, He has His own, do you see what I'm saying brother?

I am not claiming to be perfect. In fact, I am nothing and Christ is everything. It is only God's righteousness that counts. But it is not wrong to correct false doctrines and beliefs. The false belief known as Antinominianism says that the moral law does not apply to the believer. That you can mow down a crowd of people and still be saved. But one who is born again and transformed will not want to sin against God or hurt other people because they are a new creature in Christ. One does not even have to confess their sins in Antinomianism. But how can a person have forgiveness without asking to be forgiven? Does such a tactic work in the real world with real people? In fact, the Scriptures say, if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). Jesus' first word was repent in his ministry. Why?

 

[Brainfreeze]

I will pray God guide a easy as possible path for your struggles Marian29, I know you've got the right guide though so your good.

 

[Jason0047]

I will be preparing to post Noah's real life story as accounted in Genesis late tonight (early in the morning). His story will be broken up into what is called "Acts." Traditionally, most stories (even non fiction ones) are broken up into three Acts. The 1st Act is the "Set Up", the 2nd Act is the "Conflict", and the 3rd Act is the "Resolution."

 

[Marian29]

I will pray God guide a easy as possible path for your struggles Marian29, I know you've got the right guide though so your good.

Amen, brother. You too.
Many blessings.

 

[Marian29]

Noah, it seems it will be a great study.

Can't wait for Moses study time too.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Brother Jason has good understanding on the Bible as a whole, that I don't have yet, I can already see this, I can tell his sword is pretty sharp, trying to hone in and sharpen mine as well. Going to be fun, I hope we get some good discussion after each story and we don't go to fast because I want it to sink in to me.

 

[Kerry]

I will be preparing to post Noah's real life story as accounted in Genesis late tonight (early in the morning). His story will be broken up into what is called "Acts." Traditionally, most stories (even non fiction ones) are broken up into three Acts. The 1st Act is the "Set Up", the 2nd Act is the "Conflict", and the 3rd Act is the "Resolution."

Will it reveal the cross, If not it's a waste of time.

 

[Jason0047]

Will it reveal the cross, If not it's a waste of time.

I have already talked about Jesus Christ (Who is the source of salvation - 1 John 5:12), in several of the narratives so far. Why would you doubt that I would stop?