A thread we can all agree on!

[newbirth]

God forgave us the moment we did it, He saved us KNOWING we would do whatever it was we did.

It does not mean he will not discipline us, or just remove the consequences (he is not going to be like alot of people and try to remove the result of sin of their children) but he still loves us unconditionally.

where does the scripture teach that?

God forgave us the moment we did it

that is like saying I can't resist fornication but God will forgive me as soon as I am finished...
1 Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
1 John 1:9

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

 

[newbirth]

I do try to do that...but there is a point where you have to understand that some are not in a search for truth and only trying to provoke others...I guess that's kinda the definition of a troll or whatever?

that is what I am doing ....this is truth...call me a troll or whatever
Hebrews 10:24

And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

 

[Mitspa]

that is what I am doing ....this is truth...call me a troll or whatever
Hebrews 10:24

And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

I didn't call you anything...I think this is the first time ive have read one of your post? I thought what was said about feeding was kinda funny..and I was relating it to other conversations that have happened on the forum. Sorry no insult intended toward you a all

 

[eternally-gratefull]

that is what I am doing ....this is truth...call me a troll or whatever
Hebrews 10:24

And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

dude, Are you that proud that you can not even read what your posting.

this is a thread made up so Gods people can have some POSITIVE conversation, it was made up so we can take a break from arguments LIKE YOU ARE CURRENTLY MAKING and trying to provoke.

So do us all a big favor will you not?

Post something you KNOW all christians would agree on. OR OPEN ANOTHER THREAD!

continuing to post and try to argue in here just PROVES you have no desire to do anything but argue..which PROVES you have no humility, which PROVES I am justified in having you in my ignore bin!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I didn't call you anything...I think this is the first time ive have read one of your post? I thought what was said about feeding was kinda funny..and I was relating it to other conversations that have gone happened on the forum. Sorry no insult intended toward you a all

he has a habit of doing that, been doing it since he came in here. Which is why I have him on ignore. and suggest everyone do the same, He has no desire to discus anything, just pound and pound his belief down everyone's throat, and condemn you if you do not agree with him

 

[newbirth]

I agree and think that it is one of the biggest things that people cannot get over...Jesus paid our sin debt almost 2000 years ago....every sin we would commit and Jesus called us to eternal life knowing full well every sin we would commit and still loved us, called us and eternally saved us and eternally justified us with a foreknowledge of every sin that we would commit!

Many do not grasp this truth!

if that were true then sin would no longer be sin to us....and there would be no need to say... sin no more....if you know I am going to sin and I cannot help it ...then why tell me don't sin?

Romans 6:1-3King James Version (KJV)
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


1 Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

 

[newbirth]

I didn't call you anything...I think this is the first time ive have read one of your post? I thought what was said about feeding was kinda funny..and I was relating it to other conversations that have happened on the forum. Sorry no insult intended toward you a all

no offence taken...

 

[posthuman]

I have a reason why I posted the J. I. Packer quote also. I have a serious allergic reaction to some things and trying to keep my mouth shut.

gesundheit!

 

[Mitspa]

if that were true then sin would no longer be sin to us....and there would be no need to say... sin no more....if you know I am going to sin and I cannot help it ...then why tell me don't sin?

Romans 6:1-3King James Version (KJV)
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


1 Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

The flesh is still flesh and sin is still sin, but we have the Spirit of God and the Spirit of His grace that is always washing those who trust in His Blood. A believer who lives in sin is in the flesh just like a nonbeliever...and will suffer in the flesh the effects of that sin.

 

[newbirth]

dude, Are you that proud that you can not even read what your posting.

this is a thread made up so Gods people can have some POSITIVE conversation, it was made up so we can take a break from arguments LIKE YOU ARE CURRENTLY MAKING and trying to provoke.

So do us all a big favor will you not?

Post something you KNOW all christians would agree on. OR OPEN ANOTHER THREAD!

continuing to post and try to argue in here just PROVES you have no desire to do anything but argue..which PROVES you have no humility, which PROVES I am justified in having you in my ignore bin!

so you can post false doctrine here to deceive ?...putting me in your ignore bin is like throwing me out of your synagogue ...

 

[newbirth]

The flesh is still flesh and sin is still sin, but we have the Spirit of God and the Spirit of His grace that is always washing those who trust in His Blood. A believer who lives in sin is in the flesh just like a nonbeliever...and will suffer in the flesh the effects of that sin.

so we agree with the word....
Christ's blood washes those who have fellowship with him....a believer who lives in sin has faith without works...which cannot save
[SUP]
6 [/SUP]If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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[SUP]12 [/SUP]So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
[SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

 

[newbirth]

he has a habit of doing that, been doing it since he came in here. Which is why I have him on ignore. and suggest everyone do the same, He has no desire to discus anything, just pound and pound his belief down everyone's throat, and condemn you if you do not agree with him

do you want me to believe this..

.God forgave us the moment we did it

where is that in scripture...show me that quote in scripture that I may believe it...

 

[dcontroversal]

I do try to do that...but there is a point where you have to understand that some are not in a search for truth and only trying to provoke others...I guess that's kinda the definition of a troll or whatever?

Amen and I agree......some will be like that for sure.....!

 

[dcontroversal]

All I know is that were sin did abound, grace did much more abound<---Grace is far ahead of our sin covering each and every sin we would commit....and to say that Jesus or God did not know which sins we would commit is erroneous at best!

 

[dcontroversal]

The flesh is still flesh and sin is still sin, but we have the Spirit of God and the Spirit of His grace that is always washing those who trust in His Blood. A believer who lives in sin is in the flesh just like a nonbeliever...and will suffer in the flesh the effects of that sin.

And not to mention that this is why God uses chastisement....he will whip the sons and daughters that he receives and the loss of reward is also implied and directed at the children of God who will sin repeatedly (concerning habitual sin)......the bible is clear!

 

[dcontroversal]

gesundheit!

NO speaking in tongues here hahahhahhah Bless YOU HAHa!

 

[dcontroversal]

More truth that we can agree on....

Jesus Christ came to save SINNERS of whom I am chief!

 

[dcontroversal]

Jesus also said...Those who are whole need no Physician....I came not to save the righteous.........!

 

[dcontroversal]

Jesus also said,

You who are without sin cast the first stone!

 

[newbirth]

More truth that we can agree on....

Jesus Christ came to save SINNERS of whom I am chief!

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

[h=1][/h] [SUP]10 [/SUP]When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.