All Sins Are Forgiven? Really?

[2knowhim]

Did I capitalized the 't'?

Surely, you would go and see if I did or nit.

It is true that a fork tongue spews forth lies (twisted Truth)?

How can you argue this knowing that Satan twisted the Truth in the Garden? Is this not true?

Satan never had the Truth, he can only twist what he hears.


Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 

[cfultz3]

Satan never had the Truth, he can only twist what he hears.


Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I really do not know why you are insisting that this conversation must continue. Have i said something which irks your conscious?

 

[cfultz3]

His Blood Atoned for All Souls.


Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar, to atone for your souls; for it is the blood which makes atonement for the soul.

And this He did before we were ever borne.


All Souls are Atoned for, but until God quickens the person they cannot share in the benefits of The Atonement as we do who have been awakened out of slumber.

I ask, to whom was God speaking to if not the Levitican priesthood, those who perform religious service to God? How did/does one receive atonement, if they do/did not bring sacrifice? Did not God also said concerning those who are "strangers":


Exo 29:33 And they (those of the temple) shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy.


So, it would seem to me, that Atonement, in the OT and in the NT, is for those who accept it (Christ as their Atonement) and not those who do not bring that sacrifice (of Christ) to the alter of their LORD.

Maybe, this is why you are irked?

 

[2knowhim]

I ask, to whom was God speaking to if not the Levitican priesthood, those who perform religious service to God? How did/does one receive atonement, if they do/did not bring sacrifice? Did not God also said concerning those who are "strangers":


Exo 29:33 And they (those of the temple) shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy.


So, it would seem to me, that Atonement, in the OT and in the NT, is for those who accept it (Christ as their Atonement) and not those who do not bring that sacrifice (of Christ) to the alter of their LORD.

Maybe, this is why you are irked?

Christ was God's Sacrifice to The World, he did not ask you or me.
Those that partake of Him have life here and now that is the benefit.
But that is God's choosing not man's.

God is the ONE who made Him Saviour of The World, not man.
God is the ONE who was IN Christ Reconciling The World unto Himself, not IMPUTING our sins unto us.
God is the ONE who does all these things. Not man.

Man cannot choose God in his natural state he must be Quickened By God.
As in Adam ALL Die, So also IN Christ Shall ALL be made Alive (Quickened)

 

[cfultz3]

Christ was God's Sacrifice to The World, he did not ask you or me.
Those that partake of Him have life here and now that is the benefit.
But that is God's choosing not man's.

God is the ONE who made Him Saviour of The World, not man.
God is the ONE who was IN Christ Reconciling The World unto Himself, not IMPUTING our sins unto us.
God is the ONE who does all these things. Not man.

Man cannot choose God in his natural state he must be Quickened By God.
As in Adam ALL Die, So also IN Christ Shall ALL be made Alive (Quickened)

An old argument I ask once again, if they who were once enlightened turn and spit upon the blood of Christ, they who call Satan their father, they who call God unjust and choose to purposely "derail" God's plan, they too will be FORCED into accepting Christ as their Atonement? You see where this goes, "I will do as I please, knowing that I will eventually be in Heaven", so says Satan's lie.

 

[Tommy4Christ]

No such thing as pre forgiveness of sins, you must endure to the end, be seperate, hold fast to the truth, be holy as He is holy, wilfull deilberate sin will disqualify you from the kingdom, so do you first works, and repent, IF you are In wanton sin.. Rev 2-5!

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are clearly revealed, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lustfulness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, fightings, jealousies, angers, rivalries, divisions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envyings, murders, drunkennesses, revelings, and things like these; of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God

 

[Tommy4Christ]

Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

 

[Tommy4Christ]

Your candle stick is your salvation, so what is the solution???

2Co 7:10 For the grief according to God works repentance to salvation, not to be regretted, but the grief of the world works out death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this same thing (you being grieved according to God); how much it worked out earnestness in you; but also defense; but also indignation; but also fear; but also desire; but also zeal; but also vengeance! In everything you approved yourselves to be clear in the matter

 

[cfultz3]

Repent, repent, repent, repent!!!!!!

 

[2knowhim]

An old argument I ask once again, if they who were once enlightened turn and spit upon the blood of Christ, they who call Satan their father, they who call God unjust and choose to purposely "derail" God's plan, they too will be FORCED into accepting Christ as their Atonement? You see where this goes, "I will do as I please, knowing that I will eventually be in Heaven", so says Satan's lie.

I've never known Satan to say that, was you forced into receiving His forgiveness?

Tell me how Love is Forced.

 

[cfultz3]

I've never known Satan to say that, was you forced into receiving His forgiveness?

Tell me how Love is Forced.

So it was not his lie, was it?

Indeed, out of Love, God offered up His Son, not because we love and deserve it, but because He loved. By no means will He love a person less because one does not accept the free gift of grace, that is a choice He has set before us, you know, life and good, death and evil.

Look within your heart, and ask yourself, knowing that Satan chose not to worship God but rebelled, do you think that one day God, out of love, will say of the devil, "You have been puinished long enough, come home?" The resounding answer is no. Why? Because he, and those who chose not God, have a choice (freewill) as to whom they will follow. If God is a god who goes against one's choice, would He not be any better than a dictator? Will He, out of love, welcome back the rebellious angels who are in everlasting chains?

 

[Ugly]

"But God has a way to make people right with him without the law, and he has now shown us that way which the law and the prophets told us about. God makes people right with himself through their faith in Jesus Christ. This is true for all who believe in Christ, because all people are the same: Everyone has sinned and fallen short of God’s glorious standard, and all need to be made right with God by his grace, which is a free gift. They need to be made free from sin through Jesus Christ." -Romans 3:21-24

OK, so I really, truly honestly believe the biggest false doctrine in the church today is that you can "fall out of forgiveness." You can fall out of grace, but not forgiveness... ALL sins we're forgiven 2,000 years ago, on the cross. Don't believe me? Here are a few verses:

"For Christ also suffered ONCE for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit." -1 Peter 3:18

This is a verse you chose to prove your idea that all sins on all people are forgiven. It goes on to state that they are made alive in the spirit. So yes, you did say it.

 

[Tommy4Christ]

1Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Willful sin against God will keep you out of the kingdom, its clear, and easy to understand, the sin stops in repentance. 2 Cor 7-10-11.

 

[Tommy4Christ]

You are Saved by: James1:21-22
Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

The Receiving with Meekness is Repentance with godly sorry. The Implanted Word is what you Obey.

FAITH IS OBEDIENCE TO THE TRUTH, A WORK, YOU DO NOT OBEY, YOU SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

 

[hislastwalk]

I lol when ppl say I justify sin. If I was trying to justify sin I'd still be gay.

 

[loveme1]

Ezekiel 18:24
(24) But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

I was thinking of this verse earlier.

 

[Red33]

You are Saved by: James1:21-22
Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

The Receiving with Meekness is Repentance with godly sorry.

That is not what meekness is, you have not studied but rather randomly given the definition of your own understanding.

meekness is the disposition of the mind and heart that agrees with God and His word against itself and any self knowledge that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. This is the fruit of the Spirit within the believer that is directed toward God when ministering to others. The engrafted word is received with meekness to keep the heart in check from being exalted with pride through self-knowledge that leads to internal deception.

Along with receiving the word in meekness we must humble ourselves before the mighty hand of God to be given grace to be edified and lifted up. If your repentance includes this understanding then you are okay, if not, then you have some major problems with your heart and the grace of God.

The Implanted Word is what you Obey.

FAITH IS OBEDIENCE TO THE TRUTH, A WORK, YOU DO NOT OBEY, YOU SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

COMMENTS ABOVE !!!

 

[VII]

so if we are covered and good to go why do they bother to tell us

Matthew 7:21 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven

1 John 3:10 10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.

Romans 2:1-10

1 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.
2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things.
3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?
4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”:
7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;
8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek;
10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.


so now that we are forgiven are we to do whatever we want and make it into heaven?
does the servant have to serve the master after repenting or serve himself?

 

[VII]

if you are not trying to justify sin, the way you word it makes it sound like it does not matter what we do or how we live after we repent.

 

[Grandpa]

if you are not trying to justify sin, the way you word it makes it sound like it does not matter what we do or how we live after we repent.

The sinner is saved by Grace. Initially and forever after.

It is not by your blood or by your works in which you are saved.

People who don't understand Grace don't understand Salvation. They are still under a servant/slave mentality.

Don't you understand that YOU ARE the prodigal son? God Loves you, not to be His Slave, but as a Son. That is why sin flees. Because Love has filled its place.

The Grace of God is His Love for us.