All Sins Are Forgiven? Really?

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Especially when one knows it is poisoned truth
There is no such thing as "poisoned Truth", Truth cannot be poisoned, Because Truth isn't something
you know, it's who you know.
 
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All sins are forgiven if you confess Christ as your savior,and repent of your sins,which not everybody on this earth will do.

Jesus said if you do not repent of your sins you will perish.

Jesus blood does not take away all sins in people's lives whether they confess Christ or not,but if they participate in the program and follow God repenting of their sins.

Which means to allow the Spirit to lead you and vow to never sin again,which a Spirit led life will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.

If you have sin you do not want to get rid of the Spirit will not lead you,which some have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof,ever learning but never able to come to the truth,which is to abstain from sin,which Jesus said many will say to Him one day,we confessed you and labored for the kingdom of God,but He will say,I never knew you,you workers of iniquity.

The people in the world will not confess Christ and repent of their sins,so the blood of Christ will not remove their sins.

Some people who claim Christ will not let go of every sin,so the blood of Christ cannot take away their sin,and all sin is unrighteousness with God.
 
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#43
All sins are forgiven if you confess Christ as your savior,and repent of your sins,which not everybody on this earth will do.

Jesus said if you do not repent of your sins you will perish.

Jesus blood does not take away all sins in people's lives whether they confess Christ or not,but if they participate in the program and follow God repenting of their sins.

Which means to allow the Spirit to lead you and vow to never sin again,which a Spirit led life will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.

If you have sin you do not want to get rid of the Spirit will not lead you,which some have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof,ever learning but never able to come to the truth,which is to abstain from sin,which Jesus said many will say to Him one day,we confessed you and labored for the kingdom of God,but He will say,I never knew you,you workers of iniquity.

The people in the world will not confess Christ and repent of their sins,so the blood of Christ will not remove their sins.

Some people who claim Christ will not let go of every sin,so the blood of Christ cannot take away their sin,and all sin is unrighteousness with God.
So you don't believe you're completely forgiven? You don't believe He made you completely righteous? You are spitting on the blood of Christ if you don't believe in that, and bought into a false gospel.
 
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hislastwalk

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#44
How can you say you're Christian if you don't believe you're completely forgiven.
 
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#45
His Blood Atoned for All Souls.


Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar, to atone for your souls; for it is the blood which makes atonement for the soul.

And this He did before we were ever borne.


Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Rom 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.


All Souls are Atoned for, but until God quickens the person they cannot share in the benefits of The Atonement as we do who have been awakened out of slumber.
 
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#46
So you don't believe you're completely forgiven? You don't believe He made you completely righteous? You are spitting on the blood of Christ if you don't believe in that, and bought into a false gospel.
He didn't say anything about forgiveness. He's talking about the moral standard given to us by Christ Himself. Two completely different discussions.

Let me ask you... is your faith in Christ or in Paul? Your faith should be in Christ. As for Paul, everything Paul teaches, agrees with Christ. If you hold to certain beliefs where you believe that Paul's teachings somehow conflicts or opposes Christ's own teachings, then your beliefs are wrong. Paul never once contradicts Christ.

Read your bible and take it at face value. Stop trying to interject your own denominational spin on it and let the scripture speak for itself.
 
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#48
He didn't say anything about forgiveness. He's talking about the moral standard given to us by Christ Himself. Two completely different discussions.

Let me ask you... is your faith in Christ or in Paul? Your faith should be in Christ. As for Paul, everything Paul teaches, agrees with Christ. If you hold to certain beliefs where you believe that Paul's teachings somehow conflicts or opposes Christ's own teachings, then your beliefs are wrong. Paul never once contradicts Christ.

Read your bible and take it at face value. Stop trying to interject your own denominational spin on it and let the scripture speak for itself.
lol. Paul preached the finished works. :) Jesus was talking to people under the law, He hadn't spilled his blood for the world yet, although truth, the Kingdom of God hadn't came yet.
 
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#49
So Christ goes and dies multiple times for their sins?
No, he died once for his sheep.

John 10:15
English Standard Version (ESV)
15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep.


Their sins are forgiven,
If a person is not saved, no, their sins are not forgiven. That would be what is called Justification. Learn up bro'.

but as I said, it benefits them absolutely nothing if they condemn themselves.
Everyone prior to the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit, which is an act wholly of God, condemns themselves.
 
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hislastwalk

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#50
Calvanism is false, so why bother?
 
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jimmydiggs

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#51
Calvanism is false, so why bother?
Well, if you want to make this a thread about Calvinism, be my guest.

Proverbs 16:4
The LORD works out everything for his own ends--even the wicked for a day of disaster.


Romans 8:7
the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.

John 6:44
44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

Romans 6:5
If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.


Romans 9


19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25 As indeed he says in Hosea,

Care to explain the previous?

inb4 "out of context" (but refuse to explain how it is)
 
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Well, if you want to make this a thread about Calvinism, be my guest.

Proverbs 16:4
The LORD works out everything for his own ends--even the wicked for a day of disaster.


Romans 8:7
the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.

John 6:44
44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

Romans 6:5
If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.


Romans 9


19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25 As indeed he says in Hosea,
It doesn't say he predestined them to be evil.
 
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jimmydiggs

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#53
It doesn't say he predestined them to be evil.

Exodus 9

13 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Rise up early in the morning and present yourself before Pharaoh and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, “Let my people go, that they may serve me. 14 For this time I will send all my plagues on you yourself,[a] and on your servants and your people, so that you may know that there is none like me in all the earth. 15 For by now I could have put out my hand and struck you and your people with pestilence, and you would have been cut off from the earth. 16 But for this purpose I have raised you up, to show you my power, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth. 17 You are still exalting yourself against my people and will not let them go. 18 Behold, about this time tomorrow I will cause very heavy hail to fall, such as never has been in Egypt from the day it was founded until now. 19 Now therefore send, get your livestock and all that you have in the field into safe shelter, for every man and beast that is in the field and is not brought home will die when the hail falls on them.”’” 20 Then whoever feared the word of the Lord among the servants of Pharaoh hurried his slaves and his livestock into the houses, 21 but whoever did not pay attention to the word of the Lord left his slaves and his livestock in the field.


Romans 9

16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?


Psalm 139:16
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
 
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jimmydiggs

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#54
I'ma go eat me some lunch. Peace out yo'.

 
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Exodus 9

13 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Rise up early in the morning and present yourself before Pharaoh and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, “Let my people go, that they may serve me. 14 For this time I will send all my plagues on you yourself,[a] and on your servants and your people, so that you may know that there is none like me in all the earth. 15 For by now I could have put out my hand and struck you and your people with pestilence, and you would have been cut off from the earth. 16 But for this purpose I have raised you up, to show you my power, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth. 17 You are still exalting yourself against my people and will not let them go. 18 Behold, about this time tomorrow I will cause very heavy hail to fall, such as never has been in Egypt from the day it was founded until now. 19 Now therefore send, get your livestock and all that you have in the field into safe shelter, for every man and beast that is in the field and is not brought home will die when the hail falls on them.”’” 20 Then whoever feared the word of the Lord among the servants of Pharaoh hurried his slaves and his livestock into the houses, 21 but whoever did not pay attention to the word of the Lord left his slaves and his livestock in the field.


Romans 9

16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?


Psalm 139:16
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
good job for allowing the spirit of anti christ to twist stuff in your mind.
 
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Crossfire

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lol. Paul preached the finished works. :) Jesus was talking to people under the law, He hadn't spilled his blood for the world yet, although truth, the Kingdom of God hadn't came yet.

*shaking head*

Technically speaking, the kingdom has yet to come even now so what you are saying is utterly invalid. However, one of the benefits of salvation is that, upon faith in Christ, we can tap into the spiritual realities of the next age which is the Millennial Kingdom just as various Old Covenant saints such as David and Abraham were allowed to walk in New Covenant faith. In Christ's coming kingdom, Christ will share his throne (authority) with us thus you and I will be kings and priests, judging both men and angels. While that has yet to happen, as believers in Christ, you and I are capable of walking in that authority even now - casting out devils, healing the sick, etc. That is why both Jesus and John the Baptizer both preached that "the kingdom of heaven is at hand" or, in other words, the kingdom of heaven is within our reach. That Kingdom will not fully manifest until the 2nd Coming of Christ.

Anyways, I thank God for his mercy and grace because you are walking on very dangerous ground. I'm very concerned that you so easily dismiss the teachings of Christ for your own denominational spin on the teachings of Paul. As I stated, our faith is in Christ - not Paul. Nothing Paul says will ever contradict Christ and upon further study of the bible, one day you too will come to this realization.

Now I don't expect you to believe everything I say however, you owe it to yourself and the Lord and to yourself to seek out real truth. I strongly suggest that you really dig into the word and ask God to teach you Himself, that he will expose any errors that you might be holding on to.
 
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good job for allowing the spirit of anti christ to twist stuff in your mind.
I find it sad that you almost never explain your views on the basis of scripture. If someone says something you don't agree with, you just ignore it and move on.

Bye, bye, Sola Scriptura;
Bye, bye, sound doctrine;
Hello, Modo opinionem;
 
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#58
There is no such thing as "poisoned Truth", Truth cannot be poisoned, Because Truth isn't something
you know, it's who you know.
Why are you so angered. Did I capitalized the 't'? If that which is spewed from a snake is twisted, then it is posioned truth.
 
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Why are you so angered. Did I capitalized the 't'? If that which is spewed from a snake is twisted, then it is posioned truth.
There are things that are true, but that don't make it Truth.
 
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#60
There are things that are true, but that don't make it Truth.
Did I capitalized the 't'?

Surely, you would go and see if I did or nit.

It is true that a fork tongue spews forth lies (twisted Truth)?

How can you argue this knowing that Satan twisted the Truth in the Garden? Is this not true?