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Hello Persuaded,
"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." - Dan.9:27
"So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."
"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God." - 2 Thes.2:4
The above are just a few of the major scriptures which support your question. Dan.9:24-27 sets the stage, covering the entire seventy seven year periods that were decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem. Seven 'seven' year periods to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, with sixty-two seven year periods tacked onto that with the Messiah being crucified at the end of the sixty-two sevens. Seven 'sevens' and sixty-two sevens equals sixty-nine seven year periods, which at the end of, the Messiah was crucified.
Then Dan.9:27 provides the information regarding that last, unfulfilled, seven year period referring to "the ruler" as the "He" in the verse as the one who will establish that seven year period. We know that the agreement is made with Israel because the seventy seven year periods were decreed upon Israel, with that last seven bringing the decree to its fulfillment.
We also know that the agreement is established with Israel because, in the middle of the seven years, "the ruler" puts a stop to their sacrifices and offerings. And since the seventy sevens are concerning Israel, it would demonstrate that the abomination being set up on the holy place would be referring to that room within the Jewish temple. If sacrifices and offerings are being ceased and the abomination that causes the desolation is being set up in the holy place, it would demonstrate that there must be an existing temple.
Consequently, none of the prophesies of Dan.9:27 or Matt.24:15-21 have yet taken place. That ruler who is also mentioned in Dan.7:25 and Rev.13:6-8, is given authority over the saints for a time, times and a half a time, also described as 42 months in Rev.13:5, both referring to that last 3 1/2 years of that last seven year period.
From the time that the abomination is set up in the middle of the seven years, this is when "the ruler" that antichrist, has the abomination set up in the holy place and when he will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God or anything that is called God - 2 Thes.2:4. It is this during this last 3 1/2 years that the antichrist/beast is given authority to make war and to conquer the saints.
At the end of that last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period, after the pouring out of the 7th bowl judgment, Jesus will return to the earth to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom. The beast and the false prophet will be thrown alive into the lake of fire (Rev.19:20) and Satan will be thrown into and restricted in the Abyss (Rev.20:1-3) and the saints who died during the great tribulation will be resurrected to rule with Christ during his thousand year reign, along with the church who will have been resurrected and caught up prior to that seven year period. The judgment of the sheep and the goats will take place along with other millennial business, which will most likely include refurbishing the earth which will be in shambles by the time the Lord returns.
Hope this is beneficial
"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him." - Dan.9:27
"So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."
"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God." - 2 Thes.2:4
The above are just a few of the major scriptures which support your question. Dan.9:24-27 sets the stage, covering the entire seventy seven year periods that were decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem. Seven 'seven' year periods to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, with sixty-two seven year periods tacked onto that with the Messiah being crucified at the end of the sixty-two sevens. Seven 'sevens' and sixty-two sevens equals sixty-nine seven year periods, which at the end of, the Messiah was crucified.
Then Dan.9:27 provides the information regarding that last, unfulfilled, seven year period referring to "the ruler" as the "He" in the verse as the one who will establish that seven year period. We know that the agreement is made with Israel because the seventy seven year periods were decreed upon Israel, with that last seven bringing the decree to its fulfillment.
We also know that the agreement is established with Israel because, in the middle of the seven years, "the ruler" puts a stop to their sacrifices and offerings. And since the seventy sevens are concerning Israel, it would demonstrate that the abomination being set up on the holy place would be referring to that room within the Jewish temple. If sacrifices and offerings are being ceased and the abomination that causes the desolation is being set up in the holy place, it would demonstrate that there must be an existing temple.
Consequently, none of the prophesies of Dan.9:27 or Matt.24:15-21 have yet taken place. That ruler who is also mentioned in Dan.7:25 and Rev.13:6-8, is given authority over the saints for a time, times and a half a time, also described as 42 months in Rev.13:5, both referring to that last 3 1/2 years of that last seven year period.
From the time that the abomination is set up in the middle of the seven years, this is when "the ruler" that antichrist, has the abomination set up in the holy place and when he will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God or anything that is called God - 2 Thes.2:4. It is this during this last 3 1/2 years that the antichrist/beast is given authority to make war and to conquer the saints.
At the end of that last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period, after the pouring out of the 7th bowl judgment, Jesus will return to the earth to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom. The beast and the false prophet will be thrown alive into the lake of fire (Rev.19:20) and Satan will be thrown into and restricted in the Abyss (Rev.20:1-3) and the saints who died during the great tribulation will be resurrected to rule with Christ during his thousand year reign, along with the church who will have been resurrected and caught up prior to that seven year period. The judgment of the sheep and the goats will take place along with other millennial business, which will most likely include refurbishing the earth which will be in shambles by the time the Lord returns.
Hope this is beneficial
I think you would agree that Christ confirmed the Abrahamic when he came the first time. I think you would also agree that the once Jesus was sacrificed, the need for animal sacrifices was done.... Why do you think Daniel 9:27 is about antichrist knowing that Jesus did everything those verses mention?
You keep banging on about replacement theology. I had never heard of it until a few months ago. It appears to be the new hate object on site to add to the long list of various others that dont happen to fully agree with someone elses beliefs.
The kingdom of God is a spiritual Kingdom. Christ himself said his kingdom is not of this world. If you want to believe there are two kingdoms one of heaven and one here in the middle east its up to you. And thats my last reply.
The kingdom of God is a spiritual Kingdom. Christ himself said his kingdom is not of this world. If you want to believe there are two kingdoms one of heaven and one here in the middle east its up to you. And thats my last reply.
Tanakh,,,,,,The replacement theology is put forth from the churches (essentially the same as the Catholic church)in 80-90% of the US churches. This theology tells us that everything happened in 70AD that whatever tribulatons there are, we are going through them, That God is finished with Israel so it is the Church and those who believe who will be in heaven on His 2nd coming.
There are many sites on YouTube that have the information of this theory, those that like it and those that debunk it. AS you can see, God has said he will never leave Israel yet, I am to believe in their theory, I cannot believe in the rapture or many of the prophacies revelation shares with us.
I read the Bible literally and would consider myself calling God a liar if I told you the replacement Theology is a good one.
Now,,,,,the Spiritual kingdom.... Our souls as far as I know are spirits. However, in heaven we are to joined together with our new bodies (absent of blood and bone) that are no longer mortal. The Bible does tell us we have Bodies.... On the other hand, the Bible speaks of spirits known as demons. The have no bodies and have to take over a body for them to be able to do anything. Rem, the demons that wanted Jesus to put them into the pigs bodies rather than to be killed!
Jesus tells us that he will reign from King David throne in Jerusalem for the 1000 year millennium. Since everyone alive during this period of time will also be able to see Him even though their bodies will be human and mortal. i.e. the Angel of the Lord appearance to Baalams donkey and eventually to Baalam.
Revelation tells us that that this earth and heaven will be destroyed and a new one will take its place. It appears there will be no seas.
I do not see any of these examples a spirit world with the exception of the demons.
In a good debate, what are your opinions!
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I think a lot of this speculation comes from the Biblical concept that every human being must die ones.. The scriptures say that it is appointed for every man to die and then the judgement.. Elijah was caught up to God by a charriot of God and so the Bible never records his actual death.. So therefore He is seen as becoming one of the two witnesses so that he actually can finally die..
But who knows maybe in the process of being caught up He did die, Or to say He was transformed and his old flesh body died.. It is like the day of the LORDS return when those saints who remain and a living will be caught up to meet Jesus in the Sky.. They will be transformed and maybe in that transformation they will die..
But who knows maybe in the process of being caught up He did die, Or to say He was transformed and his old flesh body died.. It is like the day of the LORDS return when those saints who remain and a living will be caught up to meet Jesus in the Sky.. They will be transformed and maybe in that transformation they will die..
Hi Ahwa. He will confirm the covenant with the many. People have tried to make this place in scripture say, he will make a covenant with the many, but it does not say that. In order to CONFIRM the covenant, there has to ALREADY be the covenant in place in order for it to be CONFIRMED. So no covenant is MADE with Israel, however a covenant that is ALREADY in place is confirmed. Since we are speaking of Israel as the many then we know the covenant that they had, it was the covenant given to them by God through Moses. So this person "he" is going to confirm the covenant that God gave to the nation of Israel. The word "confirm" means to establish, so if the "he" is the Antichrist then why in the world would he be confirming God's covenant with Israel? Now Jesus confirmed the covenant when he did what he did on the earth...but I don't think the Antichrist could confirm the covenant between God and Israel.
Samuel23.....In Isaiah 28:14-18......God tells us that the leaders of Israel make a covenant with Death and Hell....
This corresponds to the fourth seal in rev 6:8..."And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him......"
It is very obvious that God tells the Jewish people that try to hide cannot but will be destroyed in the end. Here is a short version of the chapter.
Isaiah 28:14-18
"14 Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. 17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. 18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it".
NOTE: The following is a reference to Jesus Christ that was shunned when he was on this earth.
Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
This corresponds to the fourth seal in rev 6:8..."And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him......"
It is very obvious that God tells the Jewish people that try to hide cannot but will be destroyed in the end. Here is a short version of the chapter.
Isaiah 28:14-18
"14 Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. 17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. 18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it".
NOTE: The following is a reference to Jesus Christ that was shunned when he was on this earth.
Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.