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prodigal

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Oh I pray for peace alright, but as a representative of the Christian faith I wouldn't shake hands with a Muslim terrorist.
Would you?
yes i would, i follow the bible which tells me to love my enemies, want the verse,:


Matthew 5:43-48New International Version (NIV)




Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
 
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yes i would, i follow the bible which tells me to love my enemies, want the verse,:


Matthew 5:43-48New International Version (NIV)




Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
You can love and pray for your enemies for the blood of Christ was shed for their wicked sin as it was for ours, but we are to have no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness. Shaking of the hand is extended for friendship and agreement. Christian's did not extend any hand shakes of friendship with Saul or the members of the Sanhedrin before his conversion, who made it his practice to have Christians persecuted and killed. If you want to shake the hands of the terrorist who are set on destroying Israel, the Jews and all Christians, then you may as well make a covenant with them to do as they do as you shake their hand.
 
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Fishbait

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Strange,can anyone really say the US has been blessed as a Nation since America started supporting Israel?

This is a list of what has happened to America since she started supporting Israel


Well, the fact is that America is the world's greatest benefactor and blesser of Israel. We bless the Jews in countless ways, and yet, consider the many curses that America is now suffering:

  1. America is now suffering a staggering economic collapse; with banks and corporations failing, prices skyrocketing, real estate being dumped, jobs being lost, the whole bit. Our federal deficit and national debt are staggering.
  2. America is riddled with narcotics, meth, and other illegal drugs.
  3. America is saturated to the hilt with pornography and blasphemy against God.
  4. America’s political leaders consistently lie, cheat, fornicate, kill and otherwise disgrace our once, great country.
  5. The whole world thinks of the United States as a rogue, warmongering nation led at the top by a moron, George W. Bush.
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    [TD="width: 100%"]Mainly to further the Israeli agenda, the United States is embroiled in two foreign wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan. As a result, flag-draped coffins of slain U.S. military personnel are regularly brought home by transport aircraft. Is this an example of how much God is blessing America for its support of Israel and the Jewish Zionist Agenda?
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    The United States is now engaged in two foreign wars simultaneously. Over 4,000 of our young people have been slain and tens of thousands maimed with limbs torn off by roadside bombs in far-off Iraq. Thousands more are casualties of the Afghanistan conflict, a war we are losing to the dreaded Taliban. And our crazy, bamboozled leaders, manipulated by the powerful Jewish lobby (ADL, AIPAC, AJC, etc.) are hankering to plunge headlong into yet a third war—against Iran.
  7. America is suffering an illegal alien invasion. Some 20 to 40 million illegals are inside our nonexistent borders—no one really knows the real number, but it’s huge. Their care and welfare is costing us tens of billions per year, and the illegal aliens are taking millions of jobs away from unemployed and desperate American workers.
  8. Our Christian TV evangelists—men like Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, and Paul Crouch—push positive thinking, feel good theology, and a smorgasboard of other nonsense.
  9. Our nation’s warped children are showing sick effects of having imbibed too much "gangsta" rap and heavy metal rock music and watching too much sorcery and occult TV cartoons. Many youngsters are on Prozac, Ritalin, and other mind-altering drugs.
  10. Our nation’s teenagers and even many adults idolize and want to be just like their decadent idols—Madonna, Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears and the rest of the Motley Crew of Hollywood. Oh yes, there’s also Whoopi Goldberg, Rosie O’Donnell, and similar cretans—all of whom are adored, admired, and paid fabulously for their vulgar, profane jokes, blasphemous conduct, etc.
  11. Crime waves roar not only in American cities, but in small town America. Rapes, murders, kids killing parents, parents killing kids, car jacking, the list goes on and on. Lock your doors, folks, the bad guys are now breaking down doors to rob suburban dwellers, too.
  12. The police in America are corrupt, abusive, and often incompetent. Call 911 in many locales and nothing happens. But get on someone’s blacklist and a black-uniformed, masked police Swat Team may just show up at your residence, ready to slay your pets, frighten your kids into tears, and take you and the Missus off to jail. Then, they discover, "Whoops, wrong house."[TABLE="width: 1%"]
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  13. Virtually every merchant, every appliance repairman, every auto mechanic in America has become a shyster, ripping consumers off. Identity theft is commonplace.
  14. Bribes and pay-offs are now S.O.P. for city officials and politicians, from lowly city councilmen to the halls of Congress.
  15. America is rapidly becoming a Police State, as our liberty and constitutional rights are systematically stripped from us, and Big Brother’s high-tech spy apparatus bears down on citizens more each day.
  16. We have just handily elected as President a man, Barack Obama, who endorses both gay marriage and the horrors of partial-birth abortion.
READ THIS LIST OF AMERICA'S WOES OVER ONCE AGAIN, AND TELL ME, IS AMERICA REALLY BEING BLESSED BY GOD FOR ITS GENEROSITY, INFLUENCE AND MONEY GIVEN TO ISRAEL AND THE JEWS?

The Curse of the Illuminati? - Texe Marrs

(Never mind Korea,Vietnam etc etc etc)
"Strange,can anyone really say the US has been blessed as a Nation since America started supporting Israel?"

Perhaps you meant to say, "Strange, can anyone really say the US has been blessed as a Nation since America kicked God out of it's schools?"

You should add a #17 to your list as to why America is suffering curses from God:

17. God kicked out of American schools! In June 1963 the Supreme Court upheld the argument of the atheist Madelyn Murray O'Hare and promulgated an edict with ramifications so widespread it insured that God would be evicted from public society across the entire spectrum of the American governmental system. From that day to this, not only has prayer been outlawed, God's very name has been declared anathama to the United States Constitution, and forbidden to be mentioned in any federal, state, county, city or municipal context.
 
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"Strange,can anyone really say the US has been blessed as a Nation since America started supporting Israel?"

Perhaps you meant to say, "Strange, can anyone really say the US has been blessed as a Nation since America kicked God out of it's schools?"

You should add a #17 to your list as to why America is suffering curses from God:

17. God kicked out of American schools! In June 1963 the Supreme Court upheld the argument of the atheist Madelyn Murray O'Hare and promulgated an edict with ramifications so widespread it insured that God would be evicted from public society across the entire spectrum of the American governmental system. From that day to this, not only has prayer been outlawed, God's very name has been declared anathama to the United States Constitution, and forbidden to be mentioned in any federal, state, county, city or municipal context.

Israel was declared a nation WHEN? May 14,1948 which is BEFORE the Supreme Court upheld the argument in 1963. All these were ALSO before 1963. Korea 1950,Vietnam 1961,Bay of Pigs 1961.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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in theory it is possible to criticize israel without being an anti semite...

in practice this hardly ever actually happens...here are some of the immediate giveaways that an 'anti zionist' is really just an anti semite...

...they deny the validity of israel's desire to establish a secure and independent jewish state in the israelite homeland...unless they similarly denounce the notions of sovereign statehood and ethnic self determination in general...then they are denying the jews a right they grant to every other ethnic group...which is pure racism...

...they insinuate that israel is wrong simply for defending itself from violent aggression...unless they similarly denounce the notion of self defense in general...then they are denying israel a right they grant to every other nation...which is also racism...denying israel's right to self defense also carries the implication that israel and its population should just passively allow themselves to be destroyed...which is a wish for genocide against the an almost exclusively jewish population...

...their criticism of israel is unbalanced and one sided...israel is always the sole guilty party and even the documented crimes of its enemies are always to be overlooked or excused...this kind of criticism sets up a double standard between the jewish state and its arab neighbors...holding one state to different standards from another state when the primary distinction between the states is ethnic is racism as well...

...their criticism of israel includes frequent mention of crimes committed by israeli citizens long dead and by israeli or pre israeli organizations long since disbanded...this is nothing more than a variation on the classic racist theme of 'racial guilt'...

if a person does any of the above...then their 'anti zionism' is really just loosely veiled anti semitic racism...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Strange,can anyone really say the US has been blessed as a Nation since America started supporting Israel?

This is a list of what has happened to America since she started supporting Israel
conveniently omitted from the list were some of the following events that also happened within the same time frame...

american surgeons perform the first successful kidney transplant...
american engineers build the first nuclear power plant...
american engineers invent the first personal computer...
american doctors develop synthetic penicillins...
american doctors invent the first polio vaccine...
the united states lands people on the moon...
the civil rights movement leads to the abolishment of legal segregation in the united states...
american scientists invent nuclear MRI...
american surgeons perform the first successful heart-lung transplant...
the cold war ends in the united states' favor...
american engineers develop the internet...
american companies dominate the airline industry for decades...

and there are lots more of these blessings...

now for the record i don't believe God is either blessing or cursing the united states based on our policy towards israel...i merely want to point out the dishonesty of the author's extremely selective use of history...
 
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Ukorin

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in theory it is possible to criticize israel without being an anti semite...

in practice this hardly ever actually happens...here are some of the immediate giveaways that an 'anti zionist' is really just an anti semite...

...they deny the validity of israel's desire to establish a secure and independent jewish state in the israelite homeland...unless they similarly denounce the notions of sovereign statehood and ethnic self determination in general...then they are denying the jews a right they grant to every other ethnic group...which is pure racism...

...they insinuate that israel is wrong simply for defending itself from violent aggression...unless they similarly denounce the notion of self defense in general...then they are denying israel a right they grant to every other nation...which is also racism...denying israel's right to self defense also carries the implication that israel and its population should just passively allow themselves to be destroyed...which is a wish for genocide against the an almost exclusively jewish population...

...their criticism of israel is unbalanced and one sided...israel is always the sole guilty party and even the documented crimes of its enemies are always to be overlooked or excused...this kind of criticism sets up a double standard between the jewish state and its arab neighbors...holding one state to different standards from another state when the primary distinction between the states is ethnic is racism as well...

...their criticism of israel includes frequent mention of crimes committed by israeli citizens long dead and by israeli or pre israeli organizations long since disbanded...this is nothing more than a variation on the classic racist theme of 'racial guilt'...

if a person does any of the above...then their 'anti zionism' is really just loosely veiled anti semitic racism...
On the basis of definitions and logical congruence, I have to disagree with you.

The first point is missing far to many variables. There is no universal right for ethnic groups to have separate soveriegn nations. That very notion is actually considered as racism by segregation.
Khoikhoi of South Africa do not have their own country, and it would be racist to create one and import them to it.
Following your logic, Palistinians also deserve the right to their own sovereign nation (but the logic is flawed in the first place).
I do not reject the sovereignty that has been granted to the state of Israel by the UN, but I also don't trust the UN and their motives. On a world system basis, the nation of Israel is legitimate. The concern of most non-Zionists is not about world system legitimacy, but concerning motive, and spiritual legitimacy.

The second point deals with defense, and is subjective. On most of the news reports, I tend to side with Israel, however I don't think that the Israeli leadership has handled any of this conflict with impunity.
I have not heard anyone on this forum actually deny Israel's right to defend its citizens. The only thing that gets brought up is where the line of self-defense meets aggressive domination.

As for 'unbalanced criticism', it is difficult to give balanced criticism when you are speaking to someone with an unbalanced disposition. It is easier to simply state the one side, and let them fill in the other.
When I am debating socialism with a socialist, I don't bring up the good potential that socialism can produce, but focus on it's failures. I have a balanced disposition on socialism, but I am trying to bring the other person's attention to the issues that they have been avoiding by their fanaticism for socialism.
I don't need to criticize Hamas. They are obviously terrorists. I don't need to state the obvious every time I discuss Zionism.

When people start saying that Israel is committing genocide against the Palistinians, I come to Israel's defense,
but that doesn't mean I am supporting ALL of their actions, nor supporting ALL of their intentions.

Too many on here support Israel with an unholy fanaticism. They can do no wrong. Their decisions are all done by the guidance and desire of God.
Sorry, but if the individual is not a Believer, then they do not have the Spirit. If they reject Christ, then they do not worship the same God as we do, even though they read from the same Book.

I praise God that there are so many Messianic Jews, and I pray for their number to increase,
but this hope does not require me to support the Israeli government in it's decisions and efforts.
I pray that they would make right decisions, but I don't hold their decisions as above reproach.
 
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Ukorin

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conveniently omitted from the list were some of the following events that also happened within the same time frame...

american surgeons perform the first successful kidney transplant...
american engineers build the first nuclear power plant...
american engineers invent the first personal computer...
american doctors develop synthetic penicillins...
american doctors invent the first polio vaccine...
the united states lands people on the moon...
the civil rights movement leads to the abolishment of legal segregation in the united states...
american scientists invent nuclear MRI...
american surgeons perform the first successful heart-lung transplant...
the cold war ends in the united states' favor...
american engineers develop the internet...
american companies dominate the airline industry for decades...

and there are lots more of these blessings...

now for the record i don't believe God is either blessing or cursing the united states based on our policy towards israel...i merely want to point out the dishonesty of the author's extremely selective use of history...
Another example of how all debates happen, and another example that destroys your argument of unbalanced criticism.
In your own post, you mention 'selective history', yet have used that same tactic.

This is just how people make their points. Debate answers are unbalanced by necessity, and all conversations about history are selective by necessity.

When people start talking about what they disagree with, it's called "building a straw man".
It's better to just stick with unbalanced criticism, than delve into building statement, which is more manipulation that communication.
 
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Ukorin

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I tend to side with Israel, however I don't think that the Israeli leadership has handled any of this conflict with impunity.
#vocab fail
Totally thought this word meant 'innocence'.
What I was saying is that Israel's leadership does have the potential to make ethical mistakes, and has in the past.
By supporting the Israeli government with such religious fervor, many Zionists even support the ethical mistakes due to their 'blanketed support' for everything Israel.

(Or if they don't support the action, then they deny that it happened entirely, and claim that it is just antisemitic propaganda)
 
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Fishbait

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Israel was declared a nation WHEN? May 14,1948 which is BEFORE the Supreme Court upheld the argument in 1963. All these were ALSO before 1963. Korea 1950,Vietnam 1961,Bay of Pigs 1961.
I contend that "the agrument in 1963" marked the beginning of America's drastic increase in denying God. Thus a great increase in God's wrath on America. For the FIRST time in American history the 'law' told God to leave. And He is. Place blame on whoever you want but don't blame Israel on God placing curses on America. God warned Israel at one time:

"Because I called and you refused, I stretched out My hands and no one paid attention. You neglected all my counsel, you did not want my reproof, I will even laugh at your calamity. I will mock when your dread comes, when your dread comes like a storm and your calamity comes like a whirlwind. When distress and anguish come on you, then they will call on Me but I will not answer. They will seek Me diligently, they will not find Me because they hated knowledge, did not choose the fear of the Lord, they would not accept My counsel, they spurned all My reproof, so they will eat of the fruit of their own way and be satisfied with their own devices." - Proverbs Chapter 1

His warning to Israel also applies to all the nations of the world including a country that at one time loved God. America.

God has a plan for Israel and it's people. The very people God said, “You are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession” (Deuteronomy 7:6).

Woe to anyone who seeks to defeat that plan; “whoever curses you I will curse” (Genesis 12:3).

Like many people you're trying to change that plan. A plan that will bring back the very One that we as Christians long for. The return of Jesus Christ - a Jew - where He will stand on the Mount of Olives. In the land of Israel. God's land that He gave to the Jews. And He will show the 'Jews' of Israel "whom they have pierced" (Zechariah 12:10) that He is the Messiah.

The declaration that "salvation is from the Jews” suggests our immeasurable debt to Israel. All that we have worth having has come to us through the Jews. Our Bible is a Jewish Book, and our Savior is a Jewish Savior. Let us never forget to pray for God's chosen people. It is true that Israel, today, is in the place of rejection. The nation is a secular, unbelieving (as to the claims of Scripture and their Messiah, Jesus Christ) nation; but "…at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace" (Romans 11:5). Some Jews are being saved and are becoming members of the body of Christ through faith in their Messiah.
 

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Another example of how all debates happen, and another example that destroys your argument of unbalanced criticism.
In your own post, you mention 'selective history', yet have used that same tactic.

This is just how people make their points. Debate answers are unbalanced by necessity, and all conversations about history are selective by necessity.

When people start talking about what they disagree with, it's called "building a straw man".
It's better to just stick with unbalanced criticism, than delve into building statement, which is more manipulation that communication.
She was only countering with the 'other side' of the story which resulted in balance of the original salvo from SarahM777...which is the post you should have charged with imbalance!
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Another example of how all debates happen, and another example that destroys your argument of unbalanced criticism.
In your own post, you mention 'selective history', yet have used that same tactic.

This is just how people make their points. Debate answers are unbalanced by necessity, and all conversations about history are selective by necessity.

When people start talking about what they disagree with, it's called "building a straw man".
It's better to just stick with unbalanced criticism, than delve into building statement, which is more manipulation that communication.
reread the last paragraph of my post...i was not using my list of positive historical events to establish any claim of my own...other than merely showing the dishonesty of the author's use of a highly selective listing of only negative historical events in an attempt to prove their point from history...
 
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Ukorin

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And I was saying that there is no other way to prove a point.
All history lessons are selective, and all criticism with the point of change is unbalanced toward what it is trying to change.

I wasn't complaining that her post was selective. I was using her post to explain how 'unbalanced criticism' is not a valid argument for labeling someone as antisemitic, or anything for that matter. Being selective is not dishonest. A person can't read you the whole of US history in a single post. Only relevant data.


I realize that you guys get upset over this Israel stuff, but you should still try to read the points analytically if you are going to respond.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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ok maybe an analogy will make my point better...

the original list i was responding to was like someone saying...'all numbers are even...2 is even...4 is even...6 is even...8 is even...10 is even'...and so on...

all i did was say...'1 is odd...3 is odd...5 is odd...7 is odd...9 is odd...there are plenty of examples of odd numbers but you dishonestly chose to list only the even numbers'
 
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Ukorin

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ok maybe an analogy will make my point better...

the original list i was responding to was like someone saying...'all numbers are even...2 is even...4 is even...6 is even...8 is even...10 is even'...and so on...

all i did was say...'1 is odd...3 is odd...5 is odd...7 is odd...9 is odd...there are plenty of examples of odd numbers but you dishonestly chose to list only the even numbers'
No, numbers are objective, while the list was subjective.
It was not dishonest.

Examples are selective by nature. If you have an issue with the ethics of such lists, then you have an issue with the ethics of using examples entirely.

The truth is that you simply wanted the poster to be wrong, and made up a reason for them to be wrong. You wanted their post to be dishonest, and labeled it as such.
It is human nature. Now you're mad because I called you out on it. I would be too. It's human nature.

Just so you know, post 28 was simply providing extra evidence for my 3rd point in post 27,
not making a new point.
 
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Ukorin

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Quick recap so that we can get back to topic:

1a. The initial claim was that non-Zionists are unbalanced in their criticism of Israel.

1b. My counterpoint was that the criticism is to create balance for the opposition, so it in a debate almost all criticism is unbalanced by nature. (I could have just used the counterpoint that Zionists are unbalanced in their praise of Israel [which there is nothing wrong with in and of itself, as it is natural to support your position in your praise and criticism], and any non-Zionist feels the need to moderate that praise with criticism)

2a. A second claim was made, that a list was 'selective' and therefore dishonest.

2b. My counterpoint was that if a list is not selective, then the list cannot be given attributes/a title/or a subject.
I also noted that the same faulty logic was used to claim that the list was dishonest and to make the claim that the criticism is unbalanced.

3. My comments were not understood/read thoroughly, and I had to 're-explain the whole thing.

Now that we have gone over why calling criticism unbalanced, and a list as selective/dishonest in a debate is ad hominem, let's go back to topic.

I'd like you guys to actual explain yourselves as to why you think it is okay to call someone antisemitic when they haven't actually said anything antisemitic. Is it really a good thing to assume motive? Assuming motive is an ad hominem, but even outside of debate and logic, is it ethical/moral/righteous to label someone based on what you assume their motive is, rather than simply by their actual position?
 
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Ukorin

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BTW, the reason I got into revealing the ad hominems is because this whole thread is about ad hominem.

In my 1st year logic textbook, the actual example for ad hominem was calling your debate opponent antisemitic.
Two other examples in the chapter were comparing a person to Hitler, and comparing a belief system to Communism or the Nazis.

Labeling someone as antisemitic is the textbook way to discredit an argument without debating it. Trying to discredit the debater rather than the argument is called ad hominem, and is faulty logic.

It is unproductive, unedifying, and unethical.
 
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BradC

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BTW, the reason I got into revealing the ad hominems is because this whole thread is about ad hominem.

In my 1st year logic textbook, the actual example for ad hominem was calling your debate opponent antisemitic.
Two other examples in the chapter were comparing a person to Hitler, and comparing a belief system to Communism or the Nazis.

Labeling someone as antisemitic is the textbook way to discredit an argument without debating it. Trying to discredit the debater rather than the argument is called ad hominem, and is faulty logic.

It is unproductive, unedifying, and unethical.
The reasoning and logic that people use to debate depends upon the premise that is used. Example: If an individual makes a decision that ends up being a bad one and others are effected, just how are you going to intellectually debate that? What premise are you going to utilize for your debate? Are you going to discredit the person who made the bad decision by showing how others were effected and use that as proof that the individual was unqualified to make the decision that was made? Perhaps that bad decision was a misjudgment based upon the dynamics of situations you are not aware and are not privy to. Wouldn't that make you unqualified to constructively examine the situation without all the facts and wouldn't you have to assume other facts into evidence (or fill the gaps) to come to a logical conclusion?

Wouldn't you also have to be prejudice and put a greater value on how others were effected including their emotional state to have the kind of premise you need to determine the degree of destructiveness of that bad decision and the quality and character of the life of the one who made it? The debater is easily susceptible to their own accusation of 'ad hominem' because of the contention that arises from their own premise for the debate. There is always a degree of prejudice interwoven in every debate and many are just too proud and arrogant to admit to it and therefore cancel out any wisdom and discretion that could be utilized in their conclusions. That is the definition of a certain type of fool.
 
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prodigal

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You can love and pray for your enemies for the blood of Christ was shed for their wicked sin as it was for ours, but we are to have no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness. Shaking of the hand is extended for friendship and agreement. Christian's did not extend any hand shakes of friendship with Saul or the members of the Sanhedrin before his conversion, who made it his practice to have Christians persecuted and killed. If you want to shake the hands of the terrorist who are set on destroying Israel, the Jews and all Christians, then you may as well make a covenant with them to do as they do as you shake their hand.
any scripture,, i can see scripture where Jesus knew Judas would turn against him and at no time were the christians ordered to blow him up.
here's some scriptures

Luke 6:28
27"But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.29"Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either.…

Romans 12:14
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

1 Peter 3:9
Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.

Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they

Acts 7:60
Then he fell on his knees and cried out, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them." When he had said this, he fell asleep.

James 3:10
Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be.



Romans 12:20
On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

1 Thessalonians 5:15
Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always strive to do what is good for each other and for everyone else.
 
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