Are christians sinners, saints, or both?

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What shall we call ourselves?


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tourist

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Amen, the more we grow. the more we see just how utterly sinful we are.

if we see the opposite. I worry if we are really seeing reality at all.
This is a very interesting hypothesis. Another of your insightful posts, per usual.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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just wanted to point out it's not enough to love others as ourselves.

we're to love others as Christ loves us...

...how's that working out for us?
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Amen, How many people are we giving our lives to? Especially our enemies. I was Gods enemy, Christ gave his life for me!
 
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just wanted to help you out...:)

John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

Yes, the point is, Whoever you meet, You put their needs above yours. "as yourself'
 
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Was David heart pure ?

Did he sin ?
People love to bring up David... Go for it, sin your life away, there will be consequences, some harsher then others, and your gambling with your soul, are you king David? How can you relate yourself ? And even he lost his son!! Crushed!! His other son, Solomon fell to women before their gods... Do you want a taste of that ? I don't, I want my family in heaven..Yes David repented, was forgiven, and lived his days out RIGHTEOUSLY
 
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ELECT

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People love to bring up David... Go for it, sin your life away, there will be consequences, some harsher then others, and your gambling with your soul, are you king David? How can you relate yourself ? And even he lost his son!! Crushed!! His other son, Solomon fell to women before their gods... Do you want a taste of that ? I don't, I want my family in heaven..Yes David repented, was forgiven, and lived his days out RIGHTEOUSLY
Are you more righteous than david a man after God own heart ?
 
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People love to bring up David... Go for it, sin your life away, there will be consequences, some harsher then others, and your gambling with your soul, are you king David? How can you relate yourself ? And even he lost his son!! Crushed!! His other son, Solomon fell to women before their gods... Do you want a taste of that ? I don't, I want my family in heaven..Yes David repented, was forgiven, and lived his days out RIGHTEOUSLY
No one is talking about sining their life away

[h=1]Psalm 24 King James Version (KJV)[/h]24 The earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.
 
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People love to bring up David... Go for it, sin your life away, there will be consequences, some harsher then others, and your gambling with your soul, are you king David? How can you relate yourself ? And even he lost his son!! Crushed!! His other son, Solomon fell to women before their gods... Do you want a taste of that ? I don't, I want my family in heaven..Yes David repented, was forgiven, and lived his days out RIGHTEOUSLY
Is solomon saved ?
 

vic1980

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Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins.

Paul explain it to the beliver in Jesus Christ in Romans 3:22-25

Your mind and Heart are renew in Christ daily, but the temptation in your flesh is there until the day you are separated from the Flesh and present in His Glory face to face with the Kings of Kings Lord of Lords Jesus Christ. We are Justify by God Grace in Christ Jesus.

He knows everyone of our stuggles in this life, that why prayer is important.

Hebrews 2:18 For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted.

God bless
 
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Are you more righteous than david a man after God own heart ?
What kind of question is that, I'm me, I account for myself to Jesus, who will plead before God on my behalf, I don't judge David, or try to base my life off his sin, as your trying to do, that much I'll tell ya.
 
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Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins.

Paul explain it to the beliver in Jesus Christ in Romans 3:22-25

Your mind and Heart are renew in Christ daily, but the temptation in your flesh is there until the day you are separated from the Flesh and present in His Glory face to face with the Kings of Kings Lord of Lords Jesus Christ.

He knows everyone of our stuggles in this life, that why prayer is important.

Hebrews 2:18 For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted.

God bless
I honestly think people just recite the Lords prayer without meditating on it

Jesus gave it for a reason
 
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Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins.



God bless
Well if you want to take that scripture, in say, ok, this must mean I can do ugly to people purposely .. Your wrong, I have sinned, but as a new creation.

2 Peter 3:14


14Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,

I like that saying what would Jesus do? Do you think Jesus would say go, sin no more, or go sin, there's not one righteous among you??... Smh,
 
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ELECT

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Well if you want to take that scripture, in say, ok, this must mean I can do ugly to people purposely .. Your wrong, I have sinned, but as a new creation.

2 Peter 3:14


14Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,

I like that saying what would Jesus do? Do you think Jesus would say go, sin no more, or go sin, there's not one righteous among you??... Smh,
What does it mean to walk in God ways blameless ?

Luke 1:6
And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
 
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ELECT

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Well if you want to take that scripture, in say, ok, this must mean I can do ugly to people purposely .. Your wrong, I have sinned, but as a new creation.

2 Peter 3:14


14Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,

I like that saying what would Jesus do? Do you think Jesus would say go, sin no more, or go sin, there's not one righteous among you??... Smh,
Did Peter sin ?
 

vic1980

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Well if you want to take that scripture, in say, ok, this must mean I can do ugly to people purposely .. Your wrong, I have sinned, but as a new creation.

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Are you made perfect now in the flesh ? or will be perfect when you meet Jesus Christ and given a new body.
 
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Are you made perfect now in the flesh ? or will be perfect when you meet Jesus Christ and given a new body.
I walk in flesh, (body) .. I live in Spirit.. (With Christ)
my soul (mind, will, emotions, heart,) will have a new body
 

vic1980

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I walk in flesh, (body) .. I live in Spirit.. (With Christ)
my soul (mind, will, emotions, heart,) will have a new body
This is good :)

But one question remains do you still sin yes or no.

unintentionally,error,mistake
 
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This is good :)

But one question remains do you still sin yes or no.

unintentionally,error,mistake
The answer is not in months, can't remember the last time I have, and if I did, or do, I will repent, be forgiven and do it no more... As I said in a few other threads, God knows EVERYTHING about us, even our hairs are numbered.. He knows your heart better then your own mother 100x over... If your really sorry, you won't do whatever it was again,

we want to remain sinless, we don't know the day or the hour, when we will be snatched out of the earth, so I would say if you have sinned, repent with a sincere heart, and be blameless .. If your intentions are pure, and sincere, He knows us, you are covered through Jesus and the blood He shed for us. We are again blameless and sinless.. Stay that way :)

Must add, each day is a new day, new battles, it's a daily fight.. Care about today, tomorrow holds enough trouble of its own.
 
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The answer is not in months, can't remember the last time I have, and if I did, or do, I will repent, be forgiven and do it no more... As I said in a few other threads, God knows EVERYTHING about us, even our hairs are numbered.. He knows your heart better then your own mother 100x over... If your really sorry, you won't do whatever it was again,

we want to remain sinless, we don't know the day or the hour, when we will be snatched out of the earth, so I would say if you have sinned, repent with a sincere heart, and be blameless .. If your intentions are pure, and sincere, He knows us, you are covered through Jesus and the blood He shed for us. We are again blameless and sinless.. Stay that way :)

Must add, each day is a new day, new battles, it's a daily fight.. Care about today, tomorrow holds enough trouble of its own.
What if you sin and dont know you sin how then can you repent ?