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You should stop being a judge, and a teacher. I have not demonstrated anything but the truth, and what Paul so obviously stated in romans 7. The he considered himself a wretched man (as do I) Because his flesh struggled against his spirit.
Of course paul repented. He said he did not want to do it. But he could not stop himself. So t=does that make him a humble sinner, or an arrogant pharisee? (remember what he was)
Judge not lest ye be judged. John is the one who said if one claims to be sinless, he id decieved, Not me. So I take it the apostle John gets an F??
yep, just like the pharisees. and it seems many in here, who claim sinless perfection in their lives, They can not even obey the first command 24/7 (oh yes, they may think they do. but they can't)
what for saying the truth? Its ok. God says they would say this about us.. I guess I should be proud, but I am not. I am humbled as always.
You get a zero for understanding what myself (and others like me) are even saying, Why do you not reread what I said with an open mind, instead of your hatefull heart, and you might see what you just claimed is a false accusation against me.
I am not averse to righteousness. I am averse to those who preach sinlessness, And appose the apostle paul and John. and the word of God. and make the church out to be a hypocritical institution which I am sure makes my savior quite angry and sad at the same time.
Of course paul repented. He said he did not want to do it. But he could not stop himself. So t=does that make him a humble sinner, or an arrogant pharisee? (remember what he was)
Judge not lest ye be judged. John is the one who said if one claims to be sinless, he id decieved, Not me. So I take it the apostle John gets an F??
yep, just like the pharisees. and it seems many in here, who claim sinless perfection in their lives, They can not even obey the first command 24/7 (oh yes, they may think they do. but they can't)
what for saying the truth? Its ok. God says they would say this about us.. I guess I should be proud, but I am not. I am humbled as always.
You get a zero for understanding what myself (and others like me) are even saying, Why do you not reread what I said with an open mind, instead of your hatefull heart, and you might see what you just claimed is a false accusation against me.
I am not averse to righteousness. I am averse to those who preach sinlessness, And appose the apostle paul and John. and the word of God. and make the church out to be a hypocritical institution which I am sure makes my savior quite angry and sad at the same time.
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lol maam. You need to stop it right now. Your being a false witness.
Chapter 7 is a struggle paul and myself went and go through. Chapter 8 is how we overcome, and do less of the flesh, and more of the spirit. A baby christian is not going to fulfill chapter 8 all the way, He will fulfill more of 7. as they mature, they should look more like 8 and less than 7. But to say anyone will stop doing chapter 7 completely is to call paul a liar, And consider where paul was in his walk when he wrote 7. He had been preaching for many years by this point, You really want to sit here and say you got it better than paul did?
Chapter 7 is a struggle paul and myself went and go through. Chapter 8 is how we overcome, and do less of the flesh, and more of the spirit. A baby christian is not going to fulfill chapter 8 all the way, He will fulfill more of 7. as they mature, they should look more like 8 and less than 7. But to say anyone will stop doing chapter 7 completely is to call paul a liar, And consider where paul was in his walk when he wrote 7. He had been preaching for many years by this point, You really want to sit here and say you got it better than paul did?
Dear Sassy,
I sure hope you are not a sinner in your physical body. Because if that is so, you have not been covered by the Blood of Christ;
(1Co 6:15)
Know ye not that your bodies are members of Christ? shall I then take away the members of Christ, and make them members of a harlot? God forbid.
(1Co 6:19)
Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own;
(1Jn 4:2)
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
(2Jn 1:7)
For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.
(Act 22:16)
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name.
(1Pe 1:22)
Seeing ye have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth unto unfeigned love of the brethren, love one another from the heart fervently:
(1Pe 1:23)
having been begotten again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which liveth and abideth.
The question we must ask ourselves is, "has Christ come in MY flesh?"
I will know, by whether my Life is now conducted by Him in righteousness, or if I still am a sinner, still sinning.
It is one or the other.
(1Jn 3:8)
he that doeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. To this end was the Son of God manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(1Jn 3:9)
Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.
I sure hope you are not a sinner in your physical body. Because if that is so, you have not been covered by the Blood of Christ;
(1Co 6:15)
Know ye not that your bodies are members of Christ? shall I then take away the members of Christ, and make them members of a harlot? God forbid.
(1Co 6:19)
Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own;
(1Jn 4:2)
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
(2Jn 1:7)
For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.
(Act 22:16)
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name.
(1Pe 1:22)
Seeing ye have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth unto unfeigned love of the brethren, love one another from the heart fervently:
(1Pe 1:23)
having been begotten again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which liveth and abideth.
The question we must ask ourselves is, "has Christ come in MY flesh?"
I will know, by whether my Life is now conducted by Him in righteousness, or if I still am a sinner, still sinning.
It is one or the other.
(1Jn 3:8)
he that doeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. To this end was the Son of God manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(1Jn 3:9)
Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.
Well, in my opinion, I don't see any value in one word you've posted. You condemn, lie, are judgemental and a hypocrite, and condemn those attempting to help you depart from your sinful life, and you do nothing but argue against the Saints and the Word of God, and are a hypocrite in the extreme. Another tare to find the ignore button for, as you are incorrigible and hate the words of those sent to redeem you.
The dust is shaken off the boots that were at your door. This shall be an everlasting witness against you. May God have mercy on your rebellious hateful soul.
The dust is shaken off the boots that were at your door. This shall be an everlasting witness against you. May God have mercy on your rebellious hateful soul.
And we are to believe anything you say, a sinner? Such as this mindless statement? As has been explained to you countless times, Paul was describing someone under the law, without Christ, in Romans 7
Are you paying attention so far?
And Romans 8, is what our life is like sinless in Christ. Just as the Saints have been explaining to you.
Now... I again ask, do you flop back and forth between unconquerable sin and living righteous in Christ, Rom 7/ Rom 8 bounce back and forth style? Is that what you do because you don't know how to read properly? And now you think everyone is helpless against sin half the time, but a righteous "teacher" the other half, teaching others that they are sinners? Can you not SEE YOURSELF? You are pitiful!
So again, which one of these is you? We'll let you decide. But at least decide something and quit sitting on the fence about sin in your life!
(1Jn 3:8)
he that doeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. To this end was the Son of God manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(1Jn 3:9)
Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.
And for you specifically sir, beware;
(Rev 3:15)
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
(Rev 3:16)
So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth.
So I do actually have one more thing to ask you... actually I've asked you a half dozen times and you ignore this question and continue to speak silly. So which verse here describes you, are you too fearful to answer directly? Can't you face who you are?
Are you paying attention so far?
And Romans 8, is what our life is like sinless in Christ. Just as the Saints have been explaining to you.
Now... I again ask, do you flop back and forth between unconquerable sin and living righteous in Christ, Rom 7/ Rom 8 bounce back and forth style? Is that what you do because you don't know how to read properly? And now you think everyone is helpless against sin half the time, but a righteous "teacher" the other half, teaching others that they are sinners? Can you not SEE YOURSELF? You are pitiful!
So again, which one of these is you? We'll let you decide. But at least decide something and quit sitting on the fence about sin in your life!
(1Jn 3:8)
he that doeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. To this end was the Son of God manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(1Jn 3:9)
Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.
And for you specifically sir, beware;
(Rev 3:15)
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
(Rev 3:16)
So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth.
So I do actually have one more thing to ask you... actually I've asked you a half dozen times and you ignore this question and continue to speak silly. So which verse here describes you, are you too fearful to answer directly? Can't you face who you are?
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Here is your first problem. I am not doing this. And you assuming I am not only shows your insincerity and your lack of understanding.
Sorry maam, I am not arguing against saints, I am arging against perfectionists. If your struggling with sin, I would be the first to come by your side and help you in a non judgmental way to overcome that particular sin. Again you rove you are not listening to a word I say, and have no understanding of what I believe.
go ahead, ignore me. And prove you do not have any desire to understand. It is sad people think the way they do.
Sorry maam, I am not arguing against saints, I am arging against perfectionists. If your struggling with sin, I would be the first to come by your side and help you in a non judgmental way to overcome that particular sin. Again you rove you are not listening to a word I say, and have no understanding of what I believe.
go ahead, ignore me. And prove you do not have any desire to understand. It is sad people think the way they do.
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No., Paul was not describing what you claim. And you have not proven anything, the fact is, it has been roven to you the opposite.
Paul (present tense) Struggled with the flesh, and it was waring against his spirit. News flash. A non saved person HAS NO SPIRIT. so they can not struggle with the spirit, all they have is the flesh, and ALL they can do is sin (even when they appear to be doing good!
They are spiritually dead, and can not do good.
Maybe one day you will get this fact. and maybe then you will learn something.
Paul (present tense) Struggled with the flesh, and it was waring against his spirit. News flash. A non saved person HAS NO SPIRIT. so they can not struggle with the spirit, all they have is the flesh, and ALL they can do is sin (even when they appear to be doing good!
They are spiritually dead, and can not do good.
Maybe one day you will get this fact. and maybe then you will learn something.
Amen, and all glory to God for being able to see these new things as sin because it's only through the convicting power of the Holy Spirit we are even able to discern some things as sin, and it is going to be a lifelong thing. It's not we necessarily "choose" to sin, but "the more we grow. the more we see just how utterly sinful we are." I agree with 100%
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Hebrews 12:1
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
