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what is the difference supposed to be between a Christian, an atheist or an anti-christian?
Christian is the new name God promised to name His born again people previously called Jews in respect to one inwardly not according to the flesh .According to the flesh they stand in the same place of a Gentile.God is no respecter of persons. .

The difference is in the meaning of words by which God named them for a purpose. The name Christian means; residents of the city of God prepared as his wife called the new eternal Jerusalem. He is the husband of that city .He calls His bride Christians .

The suffix ians denotes resident of any city named after its founder.

The Philippians as to its residents were named after its founder Philipi. e.t.c.

The word has seemed to lose it original meaning that is used in other place to describe His bride.

Some say it was a derogatory word given by enemies of Christ as if God did not name it.
 
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Originally Posted by justsomeone123
I didn't create the word gospel....just like you came up with your questions so did I but I know where to find the answers just calm down easy easy I'm not here to fight well get there you don't have to be a part of this trust me well get to the proof
It seems you are made aware of it.

The gospel is the good news of God that works in the heart of new creatures to both will and do His good pleasure.(imputed righteousness. If he does not apply it to a persons heart by a work of His faith there is no good news but rather a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He proves himself to be true as His witness witnesses to our new faith . No witness no faith .No faith of Christ, no witness of God.
 
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It seems you are made aware of it.

The gospel is the good news of God that works in the heart of new creatures to both will and do His good pleasure.(imputed righteousness. If he does not apply it to a persons heart by a work of His faith there is no good news but rather a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He proves himself to be true as His witness witnesses to our new faith . No witness no faith .No faith of Christ, no witness of God.
you missed what I was actually asking? read all the comments
 
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Christian is the new name God promised to name His born again people previously called Jews in respect to one inwardly not according to the flesh .According to the flesh they stand in the same place of a Gentile.God is no respecter of persons. .

The difference is in the meaning of words by which God named them for a purpose. The name Christian means; residents of the city of God prepared as his wife called the new eternal Jerusalem. He is the husband of that city .He calls His bride Christians .

The suffix ians denotes resident of any city named after its founder.

The Philippians as to its residents were named after its founder Philipi. e.t.c.

The word has seemed to lose it original meaning that is used in other place to describe His bride.

Some say it was a derogatory word given by enemies of Christ as if God did not name it.
you missed what I was actually asking read the whole comments
 
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sorry let me try again....what is the gospel?where can you find and study the gospel?
Gospel - Good News.
Good News = Christ or the Bible. (Read the Bible and you're reading the good news, which is about Christ.)

If you're next going to ask if the Bible is Christ, nope. Technically not, however, if you read it, you can learn everything he ever wanted you to know, so it sort of is too.
 
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These people remind me of a self help course or next amazing thing advert that drags on for hours without telling you anything.

Enough of the games.
I don't think he's playing games. Remember when you were brand new to even the idea of the Lord? Did you know the lingo upon-arrival, or did you have to learn it?

He's to the point, at the very least, of believing Jesus of the NT. He doesn't get the lingo yet. To assume he would know the lingo or understand all he's already placed into his brain is something like getting hired to be an electrician, when you can't even change a light bulb. There is a learning curve, and he's on the steep part of it.

Think about it. The poor guy is busy thinking Christians are all perfect images of Jesus. Boy, has it got that one wrong. lol
 
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I agree mostly with the first 2. The "anti'christian", or "anti-christ", needs a little more. The word ANTI, means more, then "against." Although, that is its result. In a more subtle way, of achieving this result? Let's just believe this! "INSTEAD OF", believing Christ!
Nah. Really. Three years of Latin. Anti really does mean against, not "instead of." People who are anti-Christ, really are, very much, against Christ. They hate him, not merely "instead of" him.
 
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the church says give us your ten percent or more if God puts it in your heart ....but if you don't your stealing from God...Jesus says "mattew 24:24, matthew 23:13-34, luke 18:22, 11:41, 12:33
Question for you. If you were talking about your neighbor, would you be telling about what everyone but your neighbor thinks, knows, or feels about your neighbor, or would you be telling about the neighbor himself?

Why are you busy telling what everyone but God says about God?

You're talking about "modern so called christians" and some vague entity called "the church," but you are merely giving chapter and verse (and trust me, not once did Jesus ever say, "mattew 24:24, matthew 23:13-34, luke 18:22, 11:41, 12:33) about God.

First, I'm way too lazy to worry about who are "modern so called christians," once more care what they say. I'm not following them. I'm following Christ. And then you go on about "the church," even boasting about how you've been to a bunch of them around the world, but, personally? I'm thinking you have no clue what a real church is, so keep showing up at the most noticeable church wherever you happened to be and think that particular group of people represents the real church. Also, don't care about that either, because I don't follow churches based on size or location. Got all fancified since I've come to know the Lord, and already figured out how to find a real church versus a large gathering of lots of people on Sunday feeling good they showed up once a week for some reason.

So, if you keep talking about these people I don't know and what I don't care about, THAT's why this got boring. I thought you wanted to talk about the gospel/Christ.
 

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if so why aren't we teaching his teachings and obeying his teachings?
I have often asked this question myself....
why are Christians not walking with Christ 24/7 ?
 
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Question for you. If you were talking about your neighbor, would you be telling about what everyone but your neighbor thinks, knows, or feels about your neighbor, or would you be telling about the neighbor himself?

Why are you busy telling what everyone but God says about God?

You're talking about "modern so called christians" and some vague entity called "the church," but you are merely giving chapter and verse (and trust me, not once did Jesus ever say, "mattew 24:24, matthew 23:13-34, luke 18:22, 11:41, 12:33) about God.

First, I'm way too lazy to worry about who are "modern so called christians," once more care what they say. I'm not following them. I'm following Christ. And then you go on about "the church," even boasting about how you've been to a bunch of them around the world, but, personally? I'm thinking you have no clue what a real church is, so keep showing up at the most noticeable church wherever you happened to be and think that particular group of people represents the real church. Also, don't care about that either, because I don't follow churches based on size or location. Got all fancified since I've come to know the Lord, and already figured out how to find a real church versus a large gathering of lots of people on Sunday feeling good they showed up once a week for some reason.

So, if you keep talking about these people I don't know and what I don't care about, THAT's why this got boring. I thought you wanted to talk about the gospel/Christ.
the same thing over and over again "we Christians are not perfect" trust me I know that but your god is not telling you to just go around doing whatever you want to because your not perfect but he does say over and over again to be perfect as your father is in heaven I'm not even going to quote him because apparently you either aren't reading them or you just don't care what the king of kings and Lord of lords is saying......example you are never going to finish paying your bills and taxes for the rest of your life but it sure ain't stopping you from going to work everyday and paying your bills and taxes....so why not work to be perfect everyday for the rest of your life
 
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trust me I'm trying to give you scriptures over and over again so how am I not talking about God? the reason why I show you what people say in a church you know" a building where money is to be made and a show goes on stage for about two hours....is to help people realize just because you have been taught by someone something for a long time it doesnt make it true but if the truth(jesus) teaches you something then guess what it's true ..well of course if you believe in God right?
 

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Gospel - Good News.
Good News = Christ or the Bible. (Read the Bible and you're reading the good news, which is about Christ.)
The Gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16).

 

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what is the difference supposed to be between a Christian, an atheist or an anti-christian?
A Christian believes Jesus and trusts in the atonement Jesus secured by His death on the cross to atone for all their sins and gift for them eternity with God..

An atheist does not believe God exists and believes that when they die they cease to exist..

An anti-christian can be anyone who actively opposes the message of Christianity either by arguing against it or committing violence against Christians.. Anyone can be an Anti-Christian.. Some people who call themselves Christian can actually be anti-Christian without realizing it.. some atheists can be active anti-christian but not all atheists are actively anti-christian..
 

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I think I understand your point here man, and I don't think you're trolling at all. We get the gospel from the word of God (the Bible), and that is how we learn about God, His plan, and what He wants for and from us. I was also not raised Christian, so I didn't just "decide" one day I was going to just buy in to all this "God stuff", I was shown this was Gods word by Him, He remade me and open my eyes to truth, and now I am to "Go, make disciples of ALL nations. I think I at least answered one of your questions, but I would be more than happy to continue on. My favorite thing about Jesus is thinking these questions out with each other.
 
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I think I understand your point here man, and I don't think you're trolling at all. We get the gospel from the word of God (the Bible), and that is how we learn about God, His plan, and what He wants for and from us. I was also not raised Christian, so I didn't just "decide" one day I was going to just buy in to all this "God stuff", I was shown this was Gods word by Him, He remade me and open my eyes to truth, and now I am to "Go, make disciples of ALL nations. I think I at least answered one of your questions, but I would be more than happy to continue on. My favorite thing about Jesus is thinking these questions out with each other.
agree as well which is why Im here now....but actually the word of God is not the bible its jesus "revelation
 
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agree as well which is why Im here now....but actually the word of God is not the bible its jesus "revelation
revelation 19:11-13.....john 1:1-3 replace the word with bible and read it then replace the word with jesus and tell me which one makes sense
 

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agree as well which is why Im here now....but actually the word of God is not the bible its jesus "revelation
The Revelation of Jesus Christ is indeed the gospel and the good news as well as the word of God but remember that all scripture is God breathed meaning it came from his lips, Jesus's revelation is not separate from the rest of the bible it is intertwined in it.
But I liked your question in your op I often times think about provocative questions such as that I enjoy asking myself questions that make me search my heart and think deeply on the matters of God. Like what is it that makes a true Christian? what is is that separates a Christian by title and a Christian by heart? And what is our hearts motive in becoming stronger in faith? and what is true strength for that matter? These are wonderful questions I have asked God and myself and I love to ask others these things to see if it might make them also ponder the same things because in pondering them we seek the answer and in seeking the answer we are seeking after God's heart because the answers to all these questions all lay in that heart of his.
 

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agree as well which is why Im here now....but actually the word of God is not the bible its jesus "revelation
I agree too, Jesus is the Word no doubt. I also agree with Blains point about 2 Tim 3: 15-16

15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

That we have His words with us still, Jesus is truth (john 14:6), and Jesus is God(John 1:1, 14, John 10:30), and these are the things God have spoken to men still leaves me in awe. That's something I truly believe we can't accept as humans without God saving us.
 
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and what I mean by that is we should listen to the word of God (jesus) not nothing less
 
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The Revelation of Jesus Christ is indeed the gospel and the good news as well as the word of God but remember that all scripture is God breathed meaning it came from his lips, Jesus's revelation is not separate from the rest of the bible it is intertwined in it.
But I liked your question in your op I often times think about provocative questions such as that I enjoy asking myself questions that make me search my heart and think deeply on the matters of God. Like what is it that makes a true Christian? what is is that separates a Christian by title and a Christian by heart? And what is our hearts motive in becoming stronger in faith? and what is true strength for that matter? These are wonderful questions I have asked God and myself and I love to ask others these things to see if it might make them also ponder the same things because in pondering them we seek the answer and in seeking the answer we are seeking after God's heart because the answers to all these questions all lay in that heart of his.
good post same here....