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Jullianna

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I call for obedience to Yahweh and Yahshua with the little ability Yahweh has given me. We all have different roles and in alot of modern teaching this is spoken evil of but I see no excuse for sin or compromising truth for unity. I am in no way calling my self a prophet but the prophets of old called the people to obedience plain and simple.

Proverbs 27:5-6, "Open rebuke is better than concealed love. Faithful are the wounds from a friend, but the kisses from an enemy are deceitful."

Leviticus 19:17, "17 You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart. Rebuke your brother (or your sister) frankly, so you will not share in his (or her) guilt."

Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yahweh: When we love Yahweh by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of Yahweh: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."

However we are in a time in which:

2 Timothy 4:3-4, "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears; telling them what they want to hear. And they will turn away their ears from the truth, and will be turned to fables."

Proverbs 10:17, "He who keeps instruction is in the way of life, but he who refuses reproof goes astray."

Proverbs 12:1, "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, but he who hates correction is brutish"

Proverbs 15:12, "A scorner has no love for one who would reprove him, so he will not go near the wise."

Proverbs 10:16, "The wages of the righteous is life; but the fruit of wickedness is sin and death."
I do want to say that I absolutely agree that the followers of Christ must never compromise God's truth for the sake of what some call "unity". We know that tares grow with the wheat. We know there are goats among the sheep. We are not here to entertain the tares or the goats, we are here to share truth with those He is calling, to shine light upon evil and to encourage other believers.

I will stand for truth until the last dog dies (Yeah...I'm from Texas :) ), but I will not bring shame upon the Name of Christ by doing it in the way of the Pharisees.

Thank you for the scriptures. :) I hope they are helpful here.
 

Hizikyah

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I do want to say that I absolutely agree that the followers of Christ must never compromise God's truth for the sake of what some call "unity". We know that tares grow with the wheat. We know there are goats among the sheep. We are not here to entertain the tares or the goats, we are here to share truth with those He is calling, to shine light upon evil and to encourage other believers.

I will stand for truth until the last dog dies (Yeah...I'm from Texas :) ), but I will not bring shame upon the Name of Christ by doing it in the way of the Pharisees.

Thank you for the scriptures. :) I hope they are helpful here.
Thank you for this thread, it is always important to remember to do things with love and reminding followers of that is great. It is a very delicate balance to correct/rebuke and do it with love. I myself enjoy when I am corrected correctly, as I dont want to misunderstand anything of Yahweh's and I dont want to do anything that would make Yahweh or Yahshua grieved with me. I think people that do call for purity in the body of Messiah stand out because our culture and even religious groups are so far gone from Yahweh's way that it seems radical or wrong to speak obedience.

Isayah 5:20, "Woe to those who call evil righteous, and righteous evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

I do believe we are in the times of the mystery of iniquity is coming to its fullness. I of course am not perfect and never once said I am, but I believe we need to support each other and urge each other on to love and righteous works. (you urged love in this thread!!!)

Hebrews 10:24-25, "And let us consider one another, how we may urge one another on toward love and righteous works; Not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another; and so much the more as you see the day approaching."

But only in the way Yahshua said:

Yahchanan (John) 4:24, "Yahweh is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth."

Most of the time I state my view purposely only using Scripture and somehow this comes off as cold or legalistic, but I do it because I prefer and think it much more powerful to not let my thoughts get into the mix. But at times I do think I should state the reasons why I say somethings. Quickly here: I speak obedience to believers because I want people to do Yahweh's will, I want to do Yahweh's will, and I strongly feel the modern day teaching almost fully ignores this fact and this generation needs to hear it. I would never want someone to burn their hand on the stove, but I would rather yell out, "the stove is hot, you will burn your hand!" To protect my brothers and sisters from harming themselves. I do sincerely love all of you here, but I certainly have a special love for those who follow Yahweh in truth.

HalleluYAHWEH!
 
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JOHN 10
Thank you for this thread, it is always important to remember to do things with love and reminding followers of that is great. It is a very delicate balance to correct/rebuke and do it with love. I myself enjoy when I am corrected correctly, as I dont want to misunderstand anything of Yahweh's and I dont want to do anything that would make Yahweh or Yahshua grieved with me. I think people that do call for purity in the body of Messiah stand out because our culture and even religious groups are so far gone from Yahweh's way that it seems radical or wrong to speak obedience.

Isayah 5:20, "Woe to those who call evil righteous, and righteous evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

I do believe we are in the times of the mystery of iniquity is coming to its fullness. I of course am not perfect and never once said I am, but I believe we need to support each other and urge each other on to love and righteous works. (you urged love in this thread!!!)

Hebrews 10:24-25, "And let us consider one another, how we may urge one another on toward love and righteous works; Not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another; and so much the more as you see the day approaching."

But only in the way Yahshua said:

Yahchanan (John) 4:24, "Yahweh is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth."

Most of the time I state my view purposely only using Scripture and somehow this comes off as cold or legalistic, but I do it because I prefer and think it much more powerful to not let my thoughts get into the mix. But at times I do think I should state the reasons why I say somethings. Quickly here: I speak obedience to believers because I want people to do Yahweh's will, I want to do Yahweh's will, and I strongly feel the modern day teaching almost fully ignores this fact and this generation needs to hear it. I would never want someone to burn their hand on the stove, but I would rather yell out, "the stove is hot, you will burn your hand!" To protect my brothers and sisters from harming themselves. I do sincerely love all of you here, but I certainly have a special love for those who follow Yahweh in truth.

HalleluYAHWEH!
Must not forget John 10 and it is rampant here. "Thieves and robbers love one another" because they don't know what love is."
Christ turned over tables when he went into the temple, He called them names. The Christ I know is not a wimp He showed us what love is and it not kissy, kissy. I see so much hypocracy here, but, they don't see what is hidden in them that lies to them and they love one another based on false love.
It is sad to see, but, we all get what we deserve. God gives long lives to His people yet, many die of diseases too soon because He said "There are many sick among you Christians". because there is no truth in them and they are blinded because of that. Speak the truth and be crucified as they did to Christ.
What a shame, their minds are so full of verse and chapter they can't even hear God.
OH Well!
Here they call going along to get along is love when in reality it is hurting people because they do not know Christ, they only know about Him.
 
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woka

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I always fall short of the glory of God, I try but fail, and He always picks me up, His grace is sufficient for me.
 
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Jullianna

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Thank you for this thread, it is always important to remember to do things with love and reminding followers of that is great. It is a very delicate balance to correct/rebuke and do it with love. I myself enjoy when I am corrected correctly, as I dont want to misunderstand anything of Yahweh's and I dont want to do anything that would make Yahweh or Yahshua grieved with me. I think people that do call for purity in the body of Messiah stand out because our culture and even religious groups are so far gone from Yahweh's way that it seems radical or wrong to speak obedience.

Isayah 5:20, "Woe to those who call evil righteous, and righteous evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

I do believe we are in the times of the mystery of iniquity is coming to its fullness. I of course am not perfect and never once said I am, but I believe we need to support each other and urge each other on to love and righteous works. (you urged love in this thread!!!)

Hebrews 10:24-25, "And let us consider one another, how we may urge one another on toward love and righteous works; Not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another; and so much the more as you see the day approaching."

But only in the way Yahshua said:

Yahchanan (John) 4:24, "Yahweh is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth."

Most of the time I state my view purposely only using Scripture and somehow this comes off as cold or legalistic, but I do it because I prefer and think it much more powerful to not let my thoughts get into the mix. But at times I do think I should state the reasons why I say somethings. Quickly here: I speak obedience to believers because I want people to do Yahweh's will, I want to do Yahweh's will, and I strongly feel the modern day teaching almost fully ignores this fact and this generation needs to hear it. I would never want someone to burn their hand on the stove, but I would rather yell out, "the stove is hot, you will burn your hand!" To protect my brothers and sisters from harming themselves. I do sincerely love all of you here, but I certainly have a special love for those who follow Yahweh in truth.

HalleluYAHWEH!
I absolutely agree that it is best to answer with scripture rather than our own words :)
 
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Jullianna

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I always fall short of the glory of God, I try but fail, and He always picks me up, His grace is sufficient for me.
Do you receive new insights, can you give me a example if you do.
Louise
 

zone

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JOHN 10

Must not forget John 10 and it is rampant here. "Thieves and robbers love one another" because they don't know what love is."
thats not in John 10.

Christ turned over tables when he went into the temple, He called them names. The Christ I know is not a wimp He showed us what love is and it not kissy, kissy. I see so much hypocracy here, but, they don't see what is hidden in them that lies to them and they love one another based on false love.
you are not Jesus and have no authority to kick over tables in the temple which is no longer standing btw.

It is sad to see, but, we all get what we deserve. God gives long lives to His people yet, many die of diseases too soon because He said "There are many sick among you Christians". because there is no truth in them and they are blinded because of that. Speak the truth and be crucified as they did to Christ.
that was in reference to taking the Lords Supper in an unworthy manner...making light of it.

why dont you use the context instead of pseudo-quotes.

What a shame, their minds are so full of verse and chapter they can't even hear God.
LOL....so far twice you have attributed things to scripture that were never said.
maybe you need to study chapter and verse.

hear God, eh.
does he speak directly you...are you a prophetess:confused:
 
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thats not in John 10.



you are not Jesus and have no authority to kick over tables in the temple which is no longer standing btw.



that was in reference to taking the Lords Supper in an unworthy manner...making light of it.

why dont you use the context instead of pseudo-quotes.



LOL....so far twice you have attributed things to scripture that were never said.
maybe you need to study chapter and verse.

hear God, eh.
does he speak directly you...are you a prophetess:confused:
Call you self a Christian? With all that anger, you are deceiving yourselves, this is a very angry place..
 

zone

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Call you self a Christian? With all that anger, you are deceiving yourselves, this is a very angry place..
JOHN 10
Must not forget John 10 and it is rampant here. "Thieves and robbers love one another" because they don't know what love is."
Christ turned over tables when he went into the temple, He called them names. The Christ I know is not a wimp He showed us what love is and it not kissy, kissy. I see so much hypocracy here, but, they don't see what is hidden in them that lies to them and they love one another based on false love.

It is sad to see, but, we all get what we deserve. God gives long lives to His people yet, many die of diseases too soon because He said "There are many sick among you Christians". because there is no truth in them and they are blinded because of that.

Speak the truth and be crucified as they did to Christ.



What a shame, their minds are so full of verse and chapter they can't even hear God.
so, do you claim direct revelation or not, dear?
it was just a simple question.
 
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I don't study scripture, speak to me in your own language.
I see what you are saying, absolutely by insights and revelations, by the stilling of my mind I do get them.

Got one at 3:30 am while watching tv.. I love to watch my mind.
 
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Jullianna

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This explains a lot, thank you. Helps me to know how to pray.
 

JimJimmers

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I see what you are saying, absolutely by insights and revelations, by the stilling of my mind I do get them.

Got one at 3:30 am while watching tv.. I love to watch my mind.
I'd love to hear it. After all, The Bible says "Let the prophets speak... and let the others judge."

What is your revelation?
 
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oh.
okay.



english.

unless you mean tongues blah blah.

..

just curious...
why don't you study scripture? direct download type-thing?
I don't want to fill my mind with verse and chapter, my mind is quiet that way. I know the scripture by simply scanning them and always am led to what I already know from within, s I recognize it immediately. I rarely scan at that is a coincidence
This morning I had an insight while watching tv at 330 this morning. As I was watching tv, it went off the air so it could put new information in for the next day.

Then I saw that The mind also needs to be shut off so insights can come through.
Watching the mind is very interesting, but it must be quiet. Scripture tells us to be still and know and also to take every thought captive.
I do that naturally.
 
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oh.
okay.



english.

unless you mean tongues blah blah.

..

just curious...
why don't you study scripture? direct download type-thing?
I see your sarcasm and resentment clearly, but I will still reply.