Arrogance, avarice, and deceit.

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FreeNChrist

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So there you have it, if you commit wilfull, deliberate sin and you ask Gods forgiveness for offending him/ grieving the spirit you grieve and insult God by doing so, even if you do not seek such forgiveness to remain in Gods family

That's wacko grace, it doesn't exist.

Ever wondered why there is over 30,000 denominations in Christianity?
Ego, folks have to believe they have the whole truth others don't have
We remain in God's family by seeking what we already have??
 
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We remain in God's family by seeking what we already have??
I have made abundantly clear twice I do NOT ask forgiveness in order to remain in Gods family and i have also made abundantly clear why I seek forgiveness

Now either you cannot understand what is plainly written, or there is another reason you ask that question

I suggest you slowly reread what I wrote to save ne the trouble of having to try and explain it to you I even simpler terms so your mind can take it in
 
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I have made abundantly clear twice I do NOT ask forgiveness in order to remain in Gods family and i have also made abundantly clear why I seek forgiveness

Now either you cannot understand what is plainly written, or there is another reason you ask that question

I suggest you slowly reread what I wrote to save ne the trouble of having to try and explain it to you I even simpler terms so your mind can take it in
Do you believe that as a Christian you "get" forgiveness or that you "have" forgiveness??
 
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Will pride, greed, and a deceitful mouth keep you out of heaven?

Will doing exactly the opposite of what the scriptures say, cause one to forfeit eternal life?
It will keep you out of heaven,because God resists the proud,but gives grace unto the humble,and those things are of the flesh.That is why Paul was given a thorn in the flesh,to keep him humble,so he would not get prideful because of the abundance of revelations that God showed him.

Jesus said your righteousness must exceed that of the scribes,and pharisees,that liked to do things in public to get people to notice them,and loved the praises of men,more than the praises of God.

Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

The Bible says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.Contrary to what some people believe,we must continue on the same path as when we first got saved,which some people after they are saved fall short of what they began,and did not make it to heaven.

That is why Jesus said not everyone that says Lord,Lord,will make it to heaven.Not everybody that believes in Jesus,is led of the Spirit,and only being led of the Spirit can you make it to heaven.

When the Bible says we are predestined to salvation it does not mean God chooses who will be saved,but means God already had the plan to give mankind salvation in the beginning,so it is the same as the saints having salvation in the beginning,because God calls things that have not happened,as though they already happened,and the Bible says the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,but we know it did not happen until 4000 years later.

The Bible says Jesus lights every person that comes in to this world.

God said He is not willing that any perish,but all come to repentance.

God said He wants all people to be saved.

The Bible says Jesus is the savior of all people.

The Bible says whosoever will can have salvation.

The Bible says for many are called,but few chosen,so God does the calling,and choosing on earth.

Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,for once saved always saved is not true,in the sense if you dabble in sin and do not repent of it,and die,you will not make it.
 
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Do you believe that as a Christian you "get" forgiveness of that you "have" forgiveness??
For the umpteenth time Jesus died for all my sins at Calvary, past, present and future, I am not under law but under grace

My rightstanding in Gods family is not threatened by my sin for Christ paid the price of it all at Calvary. So my sin is forgiven unto eternal life by what Christ did for me

However, if i turn away from following after the holy spirit and commit wilful deliberate sin by choosing to follow after the flesh i seek Gods forgiveness for offending him/ grieving the spirit in me, not in order to keep my place in his family, that is a done deal

Can you understand that, or have i not made it simple enough for you?
 
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For the umpteenth time Jesus died for all my sins at Calvary, past, present and future, I am not under law but under grace

My rightstanding in Gods family is not threatened by my sin for Christ paid the price of it all at Calvary. So my sin is forgiven unto eternal life by what Christ did for me

However, if i turn away from following after the holy spirit and commit wilful deliberate sin by choosing to follow after the flesh i seek Gods forgiveness for offending him/ grieving the spirit in me, not in order to keep my place in his family, that is a done deal

Can you understand that, or have i not made it simple enough for you?
It's a simple question that only needs a simple answer, and that ain't it. Do you believe that as a Christian you "get" forgiveness or that you "have" forgiveness??
 
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It's a simple question that only needs a simple answer, and that ain't it. Do you believe that as a Christian you "get" forgiveness or that you "have" forgiveness??
You are being very silky. I am not going to keep repeating what has already been plainly answered. Your continued questioning of what has been plainly answered in my view shows your immaturity

I also believe you and those who think like you/ carry on as you do are babes in the christian faith, for you can only grow in it by taking some responsibility, not just stick with your easy believism formula

But hey, how could you believe you knew truth others didn't if you and a couple of others couldn't set yourselves apart in belief
As I say, immature Christianity led of the ego nothing more
 
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You are being very silky. I am not going to keep repeating what has already been plainly answered. Your continued questioning of what has been plainly answered in my view shows your immaturity

I also believe you and those who think like you/ carry on as you do are babes in the christian faith, for you can only grow in it by taking some responsibility, not just stick with your easy believism formula

But hey, how could you believe you knew truth others didn't if you and a couple of others couldn't set yourselves apart in belief
As I say, immature Christianity led of the ego nothing more
Which all means, of course, that you consider yourself the mature one. Because of your belief in "hard believism" I suppose. You're insults and evasiveness are duly noted. You've managed to hit every one of the threads points. Bravo!
 
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Which all means, of course, that you consider yourself the mature one. Because of your belief in "hard believism" I suppose. You're insults and evasiveness are duly noted.
What is duly noted is that if you followed after the holy spirit in the truth of grace you would have found nothing to query in what I wrote, for there was nothing legalistic in I whatsoever, and there was nothing in to remotely suggest I had to earn my salvation
But a few of you are going round Thi website showing arrogance and childish boasting as if you know the truth of grace with your doctrine Tha no one else knows

I know you cannot mature ad a christian with your doctrine, I have seen enough christians and been to enough churches to know
 
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What is duly noted is that if you followed after the holy spirit in the truth of grace you would have found nothing to query in what I wrote, for there was nothing legalistic in I whatsoever, and there was nothing in to remotely suggest I had to earn my salvation
But a few of you are going round Thi website showing arrogance and childish boasting as if you know the truth of grace with your doctrine Tha no one else knows

I know you cannot mature ad a christian with your doctrine, I have seen enough christians and been to enough churches to know
IOW, you have run out of anything rational to say and are now just resorting to character assassination. Yeah, real "mature".
 
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IOW, you have run out of anything rational to say and are now just resorting to character assassination. Yeah, real "mature".
I was very patient with you,in many tines setting out my belief as you asked, but you decided to be silly, and show Tha what mattered to you was not God being glorified for eternal security in Christ, but you wanting to be seen to be set apart with a couple of others as having truth no one else knows

call that character assassination I you want, I call it the truth.