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here is a differnet translation (hebraic roots Bible)
1 And it happened, in the time Apollos was in Corinth, Paul was passing through the higher parts to come to Ephesus. And finding some disciples, [Heb 6:2]; 2 he said to them, Believing, did you receive the Holy Spirit? And they said to him, We did not even hear whether the Holy Spirit is. 3 And he said to them, Then to what were you baptized? And they said, To the baptism of John. 4 And Paul said, John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe into the One coming after him, that is, into the Messiah, Yahshua. 5 And hearing, they were baptized into the name of the Master Yahshua. 6 And Paul laying hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in different languages and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve.
This is a very important verse
after you are baptized and hands are layed on you then the holy spirit fills you to be a vessel of the Lord in his church
The holy spirit helps you ansd is with all men to bring them to God
but to FILL you you have to be baptized by the spirit
water immersion joining the church and prayer of dedication
the churchs that have you suddenly start speaking in jibberish without and repentance or consecration have the wrong spirit
the spirit of money making
1 And it happened, in the time Apollos was in Corinth, Paul was passing through the higher parts to come to Ephesus. And finding some disciples, [Heb 6:2]; 2 he said to them, Believing, did you receive the Holy Spirit? And they said to him, We did not even hear whether the Holy Spirit is. 3 And he said to them, Then to what were you baptized? And they said, To the baptism of John. 4 And Paul said, John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe into the One coming after him, that is, into the Messiah, Yahshua. 5 And hearing, they were baptized into the name of the Master Yahshua. 6 And Paul laying hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in different languages and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve.
This is a very important verse
after you are baptized and hands are layed on you then the holy spirit fills you to be a vessel of the Lord in his church
The holy spirit helps you ansd is with all men to bring them to God
but to FILL you you have to be baptized by the spirit
water immersion joining the church and prayer of dedication
the churchs that have you suddenly start speaking in jibberish without and repentance or consecration have the wrong spirit
the spirit of money making
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Since you are new, you should read how to study the Bible
Most churchs have pastors or elders study with you so you do not dicscover their errors.
they keep you on track and form small groups so you dont "go astray" from their church
Jesus in his word will lead you to a Bible keeping church that keeps all of the word, you do not need to study with anyone but the holy spirit
he promisesd to keep you
Psa 32:8 I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.
Psa 32:9 Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.
Be not as a mule where men are keeping you in line with a bit and bridle
trust in God, he died for you
stand for the truth there is only one truth and you will find it if you look up all the texts
yes you need to be baptised.
Most churchs have pastors or elders study with you so you do not dicscover their errors.
they keep you on track and form small groups so you dont "go astray" from their church
Jesus in his word will lead you to a Bible keeping church that keeps all of the word, you do not need to study with anyone but the holy spirit
he promisesd to keep you
Psa 32:8 I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.
Psa 32:9 Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.
Be not as a mule where men are keeping you in line with a bit and bridle
trust in God, he died for you
stand for the truth there is only one truth and you will find it if you look up all the texts
yes you need to be baptised.
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Since you are new and you love Jesus
here is the way to stick with him
FACTS for Bible Study:
WHY to Bible Study
Whoever will prayerfully study the Bible desiring to know the truth, that he may obey it, will receive divine enlightenment.
HOW to Bible study
here is the way to stick with him
FACTS for Bible Study:
- Jesus taught that the word of God was to be understood by all...
- He pointed to the scriptures as unquestionable authority.
- We should do the same.
- The Bible is to be presented as the word of the infinite God.
- The Bible "it is written" is the end of all controversy.
- Search the scriptures for in them you have eternal life.
- They are these that testify of me.
WHY to Bible Study
Whoever will prayerfully study the Bible desiring to know the truth, that he may obey it, will receive divine enlightenment.
HOW to Bible study
- Let the seeker lay aside every preconceived idea.
- Take the word in it's simplicity
- You must first renounce every sinful practice
- You must soften your heart and subdue it
- Be ready to listen to what God says
- Do not carry your creed to the Bible and read the scriptures in the light of that creed
- If your opinion was opposed to a "Thus saith the Lord" Renounce your opinion.
- Give heed to the word of God rather than any sayings of men.
- The word of God is plain to all who study with a prayerful heart.
- If any man willeth to do his will, the same shall know of his teaching John 7:17.
- Every truly honest soul will come to the light of truth.
- Let every dispute be settled by "It is written"
- Search the scriptures for eternal life John 5:39.
- God would not say SEARCH if you could not find, he is not evil.
- And why would he say SEARCH, if it cannot be understood.
- Why would God say READ revelation if it could not be understood?
- Again, God is not evil, he will give you light.
- There are no contradictions in the Bible.
- God cannot contradict himself, it is impossible.
- If you find a contradicting text, you have misunderstood it.
- Every correct Bible translation will have perfect harmony of all scriptures
- If there is one scripture that contradicts, that verse was mistranslated, get another version to check it ou or look it up in the Greek, or better, Aramaic. There will be no contradictions,
- if out of many scriptures one verse does not harmonize, check the original...
- When you search earnestly, God will breath his spirit into you,
- The Bible is it's own interpreter, never ask a man to interpret any verse...
- One portion blends with another portion into a harmonious whole.
- Light flashes forth from some text to illuminate another text, this is the spirit.
- The spirit and the word ALWAYS AGREE.
- When there is disagreement between the word and a spirit or person, the spirit in that person is the wrong spirit
- Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if men or spirits speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
- The voice of God to the heart of a man will not contradict the word of God, if it does, it is an evil spirit.
- 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
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- 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
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- When a text is applied correctly it will harmonize with every text in the Bible on that topic.
- If the text disagrees with other texts it is out of context,
- So then go back and read the entire chapter to see the true context (example) the sheet Peter was let down from heaven has nothing to do with unclean meats - but Jews and Gentiles)
- If there is an obscure text, then there is another text somewhere that will explain it.
- The holy spirit will explain every text with sincere searching and prayer and study
- All truth, is consistent with itself.
- The word of God covers the period from creation to Jesus second coming
- Through all the centuries the truth has always remained the same.
- That which was truth then, is truth now.
- New truths are constantly opened, the old ruths are eternal and cannot change.
- Every new truth found only makes more significant the old truths.
- Everything is to be shaken that can be shaken - test all your supposed doctrines, you will be surprised at what is false.
- Lay aside all your positions on every topoc no matter how dear to your selfish heart
- Because your believes are going to be changed.
- All our doctrines we started with were given to us by men, until we learned to check them by Bible study. Most of them are false.
- Acts 17:11 The Berean christians were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. They checked to see if the pastor was right. We must check all men popes, priests or pastors to see if they are right. Jesus told us to do it and he called that NOBLE.
- Through all centuries the truth has remained the same, only false churches have come and gone. Read revelation, all seven churches are wrong somewhere.
- It is satan's studied plan to PERVERT the scriptures and to put false constructs on verses. Just read the entire chapter, and the false context will be exposed. Usually the very next verse some leave off, say exactly the opposite of what they are trying to present.
- God cannot lie, he moves in a direct line.
- Lucifer can move in a crooked course, do not let this upset you, just pray and continue straight truth.
- A long multiple verse Bible study is usually a perversion.
- Truth is simple, needing only one or two verses to show the light.
- satan teaches that the Bible must be taken in light of what the fathers said.
- The truth is, the fathers muust be tested by the word of God.
- Bible verses cannot penetrate the minds of anyone with the belief that the Bible must be interpreted according to the fathers or with help from a pastor or another person in error. This is strong delusion.
- The Lord can save and help only those who believe the Bible is the word of the infinite God to them.
- All articles of faith, doctrines, creeds however "sacred" must be rejected if they conflict with the word of God
- If the Bible supports one of our old doctrines, than accept it.
- The spirit was never given to supersede the Bible, anyone teaching this is a false prophet.
- The scripture explicitly states that all spirits must be tested by the word of God
- "try the spirits, according to the word of God. Test dreams, visions, by the Bible.
- If someone has a dream or vision or the spirit tells them something against the word of God, they are in error and need to be born again.
- The spirit of God and the word of God agree perfectly 100%. Anything else is a false spirit, and you should not be afraid to tell them so.
- The holy spirit when moving upon a persons mind, is in perfect agreement with the Bible always.
- The Bible must be your councelor, study it prayerfuly.
- Ther must be earnest study and close investigation.
- sharp clear perceptions of truth are never the reward of indolence.
- Those who intend to find treasure must dig deep.
- Our salvation depends on our knowledge and truth found in the scriptures.
- False doctrines will kill you, your life depends on it.
- Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life?
Your life depends on it.
May God grant you zeal to study and find the doctrines, there is only one truth on any doctrine, only one. Find it, Search for it with your whole heart.
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Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen.
M
Devotee4Me: Let's start with the issue of salvation: One is not saved as a baby. A person must make a willful, conscious CHOICE to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. A baby Cannot do that. So, with that stated, have you verbally ASKED Jesus to be your Lord and Savior? Have you asked Him into your heart? If not, do so! "Dear Lord Jesus, I am a sinner. I ask for Your forgiveness and I thank You for it! Please come into my life, my heart and teach me Your ways...through Your written Word and through other mature Christians. In Your Name, Amen!" DONE!! Pretty simple, right?? Now you are a Biblically, Born Again (See John 3) Christian! Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."
Rom 10:9-10 " That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Rom 10:9-10 " That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
R
I would start with the baptism of fire that JTB said Jesus would bring.
He didn't physically immerse people in real flames, and we don't do that today. Hopefully.
I must naturally assume the same holds true for water.
I got dunked years ago and had no clue what it all really meant. I'm sure many have the same experience.
But I think eventually we can figure it out by studying and having experienced the physical act of baptism.
I personally would indeed recommend that a person who is serious about being a believer, be physically baptized in real water.
To me, thus far, it means this -
Immersion in emotional turbulence, particularly as if to say to God "Hey, I think I know how you feel now when the world rejects you."
See, that's a state of heart that I can relate to, which causes me to want to stop sinning. It hurts God's feelings when He sees me sin.
There's a lot of tear imagery associated with water both in the bible and secular jargon.
"and the Spirit of Elohim affected the face of the waters"
"voice like the sound of many waters" (Jesus wept)
"cry me a river"
"a great flood" that was a result of God "turning away" from the fact that He made mankind (sounds like sad remorse to me rather than angry vengeance)
and so on.
And physical or not, it's a baptism of turning away from sin, for the gradual disappearance of it, which is different than salvation. Because if I suddenly were to find myself without sin, I would not consider myself saved.
For me, seeing other people's afflictions eased is my salvation.
I've been immersed in a lot of things (including physical water, the wilderness, and a fiery feeling that tells me I'm disobedient) and saved from a lot of things, but I ain't fixed yet.
I'll say that jumping through a physical hoop and forgetting about it would have yielded me nothing, but trying to understand what that physical act means in my heart goes a lot farther. Even if I get some of it wrong, I'm still better off than just having a baptism certificate in my bible or framed on the wall.
And OP, while the garden hose suggestion is a helpful and loving gesture, if I were you I'd hold my breath.
Because when you do that, you get the chance to have faith that when you come up out of the water, God will breath the breath of life right back into you the way He does every 7 seconds or so
When you think of baptism, think of all the little children that are learning to swim, how some of them are scared to hold their breath and go under water.And once they get it over with, they really are a new creature. From one extreme of fear, to another excited extreme of "Look mommy! I can do it!"
They go immediately from being scared to trying to comfort the other children on how easy it was.
Feel the tears of God and others, good ones and sad ones, and it makes one want to do no harm.
He didn't physically immerse people in real flames, and we don't do that today. Hopefully.
I must naturally assume the same holds true for water.
I got dunked years ago and had no clue what it all really meant. I'm sure many have the same experience.
But I think eventually we can figure it out by studying and having experienced the physical act of baptism.
I personally would indeed recommend that a person who is serious about being a believer, be physically baptized in real water.
To me, thus far, it means this -
Immersion in emotional turbulence, particularly as if to say to God "Hey, I think I know how you feel now when the world rejects you."
See, that's a state of heart that I can relate to, which causes me to want to stop sinning. It hurts God's feelings when He sees me sin.
There's a lot of tear imagery associated with water both in the bible and secular jargon.
"and the Spirit of Elohim affected the face of the waters"
"voice like the sound of many waters" (Jesus wept)
"cry me a river"
"a great flood" that was a result of God "turning away" from the fact that He made mankind (sounds like sad remorse to me rather than angry vengeance)
and so on.
And physical or not, it's a baptism of turning away from sin, for the gradual disappearance of it, which is different than salvation. Because if I suddenly were to find myself without sin, I would not consider myself saved.
For me, seeing other people's afflictions eased is my salvation.
I've been immersed in a lot of things (including physical water, the wilderness, and a fiery feeling that tells me I'm disobedient) and saved from a lot of things, but I ain't fixed yet.
I'll say that jumping through a physical hoop and forgetting about it would have yielded me nothing, but trying to understand what that physical act means in my heart goes a lot farther. Even if I get some of it wrong, I'm still better off than just having a baptism certificate in my bible or framed on the wall.
And OP, while the garden hose suggestion is a helpful and loving gesture, if I were you I'd hold my breath.
Because when you do that, you get the chance to have faith that when you come up out of the water, God will breath the breath of life right back into you the way He does every 7 seconds or so
When you think of baptism, think of all the little children that are learning to swim, how some of them are scared to hold their breath and go under water.And once they get it over with, they really are a new creature. From one extreme of fear, to another excited extreme of "Look mommy! I can do it!"
They go immediately from being scared to trying to comfort the other children on how easy it was.
Feel the tears of God and others, good ones and sad ones, and it makes one want to do no harm.
G
Have faith and let Him baptize you at the right time, pray often for that time, for when it comes, it will come quick, and, will be beautiful moment for youdevotedtoHim
It is simply a confession and affirmation of your faith, but it is easily one of the most important things a Christian should do, as, the Lord leads them, in His due time, for it brings us closer to Him.
That's awesome that your mom was a Christian, she is present with the Lord now
It is simply a confession and affirmation of your faith, but it is easily one of the most important things a Christian should do, as, the Lord leads them, in His due time, for it brings us closer to Him.
That's awesome that your mom was a Christian, she is present with the Lord now