Baptism? Please provide your comments/opinions as I have not been baptized...

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Devotee4Me

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My mom recently passed, one of God's loveliest angels. She has been saying to me "I have to get you baptized" . It never happened and I have been a practicing Christian for over 20 years now. I nearly drowned 2 x and have been just afraid of being under water even tho its for a split second, I know. I consider myself saved by Jesus The Christ; I know he was baptized...millions of angelic people across the globe have not been exposed to this ritual - surely they are/will be saved. Yes?
 

john832

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Just some scriptures to consider...

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Act 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Act 22:15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
 
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2Thewaters

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we shouldnt go on opinions
thats how we get false doctrines

here is everything you need to know

"In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea," Matthew 3:1


"But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?" Matthew 3:7


"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." Matthew 11:11


Just look up all those verese and read the verses before and after that and you will understand.

baptism means to IMMERSE in original language
But the meanings of any word in the Bible can easily be seen by reading all the verses that contain it

you will see how it is done


"And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force." Matthew 11:12


"And said unto his servants, This is John the Baptist; he is risen from the dead; and therefore mighty works do show forth themselves in him." Matthew 14:2


"And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, Give me here John Baptist's head in a charger." Matthew 14:8


"And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets." Matthew 16:14


"Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist." Matthew 17:13


"But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able." Matthew 20:22


"And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father." Matthew 20:23


"The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?" Matthew 21:25


"John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." Mark 1:4


"And king Herod heard of him; (for his name was spread abroad:) and he said, That John the Baptist was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do show forth themselves in him." Mark 6:14


"And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist." Mark 6:24


"And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying, I will that thou give me by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist." Mark 6:25


"And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets." Mark 8:28


"But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?" Mark 10:38


"And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:" Mark 10:39


"The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me." Mark 11:30


"And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;" Luke 3:3


"When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?" Luke 7:20


"For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." Luke 7:28


"And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John." Luke 7:29


"For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil." Luke 7:33


"They answering said, John the Baptist; but some say, Elias; and others say, that one of the old prophets is risen again." Luke 9:19


"But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!" Luke 12:50


"The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men?" Luke 20:4


"Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection." Acts 1:22


"That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;" Acts 10:37


"When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel." Acts 13:24


"This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John." Acts 18:25


"And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism." Acts 19:3


"Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus." Acts 19:4


"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Romans 6:4


"One Lord, one faith, one baptism," Ephesians 4:5


"Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead." Colossians 2:12


"Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment." Hebrews 6:2


"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:" 1 Peter 3:21
 
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MaggieMye

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My mom recently passed, one of God's loveliest angels. She has been saying to me "I have to get you baptized" . It never happened and I have been a practicing Christian for over 20 years now. I nearly drowned 2 x and have been just afraid of being under water even tho its for a split second, I know. I consider myself saved by Jesus The Christ; I know he was baptized...millions of angelic people across the globe have not been exposed to this ritual - surely they are/will be saved. Yes?
You are not practicing the Christian faith when you live in FEAR!! Jesus gave a us a Spirit of Love, not fear. To be a 'practicing Christian' for 20 YEARS??? No, dear friend, you have much to learn about being an overcomer, which is what Jesus created us to be. Can you see how satan has kept you in fear so that you choose not to obey Scripture and be baptized? It is an tactic of his, used on us all!! BUT GOD says to TRUST Him. You can verbally renounce that demon of fear, tell it to leave in the name of Jesus (as is your right and authority to do). You MUST be persistant...it has had a home in you for a long time. But no more! Make the appointment to get baptized. Renounce the spirit of fear and ask Jesus for strength and courage...only once...then thank Him for it daily!
You've got some learning to do (remember Hos 4:6?) and it is going to be a wild ride...full of His plans for your life and gaining wisdom and understanding about who He is and who He created you to be!!
Maggie

 
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2Thewaters

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Everything else added by churches is fanatacism (going beyond what you are told and being self-righteous)

if Baptism is done differently it is self righteous and will not work
you needs Christs righteousness, his word and do it according to his word.

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notuptome

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Is water baptism essential for salvation? No. The only baptism that saves is Holy Spirit baptism which occurs the moment we trust Christ to save us from our sins. I say that water baptism is an ordinance of obedience and should be done but it is not salvitic. The Lord knows your fears about water and He can comfort you to overcome those fears but do not let anyone tell you that you must be baptized in water to be saved. Salvation is by grace and not works. Many boast of these things and cause many undue hardships in the household of faith. The eunuch in Acts asked Philip about water baptism and Philip told him if thou believest thou mayest. Only believers may partake of water baptism but they are believers before they are baptized not because they are baptized.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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2Thewaters

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Show me a scripture text for that please
that baptism is not essential for salvation
thank you
 
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Devotee4Me

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Thank you kindly; I have much to learn. This is a new beginning for me. God Bless you always.
 
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2Thewaters

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Jesus came to bring us salvation his word of God
he told us what to do, and by faith we do every word of God
is love essential for salvation?
Yes
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my authoritative prescriptions

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his autoritative prescriptions, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

see if you read all the Bible texts in the Bible, you would not believe the people leading you away from the word of God
the majority do not know what Jesus wants since they dont know the word


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Devotee4Me

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I cannot - which is why I ask you kindly to share your biblical wisdom with me. I am thankful for your reply. God be with you always.:)
 
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2Thewaters

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you can you can God wants you to

just go here
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get the free download and look up all the questions you have.
Then Jesus leads you
 
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Devotee4Me

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Roger, thank you. I can relate to this and this makes so much sense to me. I thank you from the top and bottom of my heart. God is blessing you now!
 
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2Thewaters

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Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

This is essential for salvation from sin

If you have cancer or are converted in a foxhole and are bleeding to death, then Jesus covers you with his baptism because he was baptised even though sinless to FULFILL all righteousness
it is required he fulfilled it and will apply it to you when you cant
by faith
but baptism is essential for salvation

either claiming Jesus baptism for you and repenting or being baptised yourself

it is required to be in his church.
 
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reject-tech

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Part of what baptism symbolizes is getting over certain religious fears.

It might be of interest to know that 2000 years ago, very very few people knew how to swim, and if they did, it wasn't like we do today. Even fishermen didn't know how to swim, and that adds to the excitement the disciples would have had in seeing Jesus walk on water. Note that when Peter went down in the water, Jesus had to save Him. He was scared to death of water.

John's baptism solicitation was a "take the plunge if you dare" kind of message.

And you might very well already be baptized, whether or not you've physically been in the water.
 
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Devotee4Me

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2Thewaters: I will be baptized. I will have no fear and I believe God does want me to. I need the strength of my Christian brothers and sisters and I am ever so grateful. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you - and God Bless You always.
 
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2Thewaters

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They were choosing a discipel to replace Juds
criteria was this

Acts 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
Acts 1:23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

Acts 18:23 And after he had spent some time there, he departed, and went over all the country of Galatia and Phrygia in order, strengthening all the disciples.
Acts 18:24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
Acts 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
Acts 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
Acts 18:27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:
Acts 18:28 For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, showing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.


Baptism is essential
you are not in his church if you have not been baptised

The majority of churches make it easy to join them and give them money
but you are not in Jesus church if you are not baptised/
very clear very simple
 

starfield

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The Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas what he must do to be saved and they replied, 'believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved'. Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God". The moment you repented and believed the Lord Jesus you were saved and indwelt by His Spirit, then you should get water baptised in obedience to Christ's command (Matt. 28:19), which identifies you with Him (Col. 2:12) - it is not optional for Christians. :)
 
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Show me a scripture text for that please that baptism is not essential for salvation thank you
I think the principle that God has can be found in the explanation of circumcision. When the Jews told Peter and Paul that they must teach that circumcision was necessary for salvation, scripture explains to us that it is necessary but the outward ceremony of circumcision is not. You can be physically circumcised without the spiritual circumcision that is the important part, and spiritually circumcised without the physical part.

Baptism works the same way. We like to say that if you are spiritually baptized you will follow through with the physical part to show it. I think that is a good thing. But like circumcision, it is the spiritual part that counts.
 
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Devotee4Me

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Yes!! Yes, Peter was scared! All of the above is true, I'm sure. You've written something very special - intended just for me (at this time). I am so thankful. Your perspective really mirrors my interpretation so much - it's incredible. Thank you reject-tech! God is blessing you now!