Barack Obama is our leader
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Dan 4:17: " . . .
know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will and
setteth up over it the lowest of men."
Impeachment is a possibility. Remember how High Nixon seemed to be sailing, re-elected in a landslide & AFTER Watergate had happened. But soon Nixon was driven from office. The current prez is a Democrat. There seems no chance that 2/3 of the Senate would vote Him out -- neither do the people want him impeached (so far as I know).
I think the Repubs are too chicken to draw up articles of impeachment and then to hold the detailed hearings like the Demos did to Nixon. They just went thru the motions with Clinton.
know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will and
setteth up over it the lowest of men."
Impeachment is a possibility. Remember how High Nixon seemed to be sailing, re-elected in a landslide & AFTER Watergate had happened. But soon Nixon was driven from office. The current prez is a Democrat. There seems no chance that 2/3 of the Senate would vote Him out -- neither do the people want him impeached (so far as I know).
I think the Repubs are too chicken to draw up articles of impeachment and then to hold the detailed hearings like the Demos did to Nixon. They just went thru the motions with Clinton.
Tradition? What tradition do you have, what document can you quote that goes back to the time of Christ.
Where does they Bible say anything about "allowed to speak with the men" by children?
Where does the Bible define anything by the age of 12?
Where is anyone betrothed at 12?
Jewish bar mitzvah is irrelevant, as we speak of the Times of Christ. You need contemporary documents, not later Jewish customs.
Where does they Bible say anything about "allowed to speak with the men" by children?
Where does the Bible define anything by the age of 12?
Where is anyone betrothed at 12?
Jewish bar mitzvah is irrelevant, as we speak of the Times of Christ. You need contemporary documents, not later Jewish customs.
K
Okay little one the bar mitzvah is the ceremony that makes you a man and has been performed since bible times. There is no way that a child at age 12 could sit and speak with the elders unless He had been bar mitzvahed understand. Yoiu really need to look at Josephus it is not bible but history of Israel and think before you speak my brother.
This whole Ferguson thing is an exercise in racism. The idea is that if the pigment matches ours, why we riot in support of the guy on that basis. And policemen who don't have our pigment have no normal police powers vs one of our pigment.
Any person of whatever pigment, who attacks a police officer and then gets killed by the policeman, deserves what he got.
If a person resists arrest, then if the physical force used to subdue him happens to kill him, he also deserves what he got. If you instigate a fight, you may die in the fight though the policeman had no intention of killing you.
Any person of whatever pigment, who attacks a police officer and then gets killed by the policeman, deserves what he got.
If a person resists arrest, then if the physical force used to subdue him happens to kill him, he also deserves what he got. If you instigate a fight, you may die in the fight though the policeman had no intention of killing you.
You have not one Bible verse for it. Don't you think you should retract in the absence of proof?
Should any such a thing as "making you a man" ceremony in the Bible.
Your assertions prove nothing.
I have Josephus in my library. I don't know what he says on this.
You made the assertions about 12 years & Bar mitzvah. So prove it or best to retract.
What you said was " in the bible you were considered an adult at age 12."
Now that is not in the Bible. So why not retract?
At Kadesh-Barnea the dividing line for responsibility was not 12, but 18.
Should any such a thing as "making you a man" ceremony in the Bible.
Your assertions prove nothing.
I have Josephus in my library. I don't know what he says on this.
You made the assertions about 12 years & Bar mitzvah. So prove it or best to retract.
What you said was " in the bible you were considered an adult at age 12."
Now that is not in the Bible. So why not retract?
At Kadesh-Barnea the dividing line for responsibility was not 12, but 18.
It would be a lie to assert that sitting & speaking is said to mean "adult." The text does not say so.
You need to retract because the Bible doesn't say anything about anyone being an adult at 12. The issue is not sitting & speaking with men, but being considered an adult. Neither does the text say that he was allowed to sit & speak because he was 12, or that 11 year olds could not. The Bible has no age at which one can sit & speak with someone. Moreover, 12 is probably 11 in our reckoning.
4:29 your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, that have murmured against me,
26:2 Take the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, from twenty years old and upward, by their fathers’ houses, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel.
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Now I retract the 19 (our reckoning 18). It was 20 (our reckoning 19) at Kadesh-Barnea in the wilderness.
You need to retract because the Bible doesn't say anything about anyone being an adult at 12. The issue is not sitting & speaking with men, but being considered an adult. Neither does the text say that he was allowed to sit & speak because he was 12, or that 11 year olds could not. The Bible has no age at which one can sit & speak with someone. Moreover, 12 is probably 11 in our reckoning.
4:29 your dead bodies shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, that have murmured against me,
26:2 Take the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, from twenty years old and upward, by their fathers’ houses, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel.
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Now I retract the 19 (our reckoning 18). It was 20 (our reckoning 19) at Kadesh-Barnea in the wilderness.
I don't agree with the concept of "age of accountability" as often used. But be that as it may, at Kadesh-Barnea the age of accountability was 20 (19). Modern or Talmudic Jewish tradition was not the subject, but what the Bible says.
As to sin, there is indication in the Bible that children are accountable for sin. Even a child is known by his ways.
K
Wrong, the pointing out of scripture I gave in 1 John as well as there are others that point to future sins are not forgiven tell after you ask forgiveness of them when you commit it. People still want to use this false theology that future sins are already forgiven to live however they want, but Paul specifically says no you can not continue to sin without repenting and asking forgiveness of them.
Psalm 51:12-14 is a scripture that shows one has to restore salvation if they have fallen away to willful sin, and Jesus says that if one of His sheep fall away that have to be brought back in repentance of their sin to be back in the fold.
A
Is he still replying to my posts? I have him on ignore. The last straw was his recalcitrant insistence that every bible scholar in the world is in error and that only he, the uneducated Kenneth, is able to accurately divide God's Word despite his every post being chalk full of fallacious error, misinterpretation, and misinformation.
That aside, Billy's always been something of a fire and brimstone preacher. Don't believe me? Listen to this 1949 sermon: Fire and Brimstone | Audio | BGEA
So this message isn't unusual for Billy. However, a very important difference is the heart of the public audience changed dramatically over the years from a mostly receptive one to a mostly stony "wicked and lawless" one as put it.
And try to imagine what it was like to be born in 1918... lol. I mean talk about watching the world changing!
He spent his early childhood in the roaring 20's and his teen years in the Great Depression. His twenties were spent watching WWII and his ministry began taking traction in the 1950s. Consider that in 1955, Billy was 37 years old!
That aside, Billy's always been something of a fire and brimstone preacher. Don't believe me? Listen to this 1949 sermon: Fire and Brimstone | Audio | BGEA
So this message isn't unusual for Billy. However, a very important difference is the heart of the public audience changed dramatically over the years from a mostly receptive one to a mostly stony "wicked and lawless" one as put it.
And try to imagine what it was like to be born in 1918... lol. I mean talk about watching the world changing!
He spent his early childhood in the roaring 20's and his teen years in the Great Depression. His twenties were spent watching WWII and his ministry began taking traction in the 1950s. Consider that in 1955, Billy was 37 years old!
A
Yes but in many parts of the world distributing Christian gospel tracts is illegal. Your position that "if you break the law and resist you may die. Why tie the hands of our officers and make way for lawlessness" begs a correct context. Read: Romans 13 Truth > Home
How about this? The government backs off the authoritarianism over petty issues and lets people live their lives in peace. Rescind the criminalization of pettiness that occurred in the crime waves of the 80's and 90's as the public overreacted.
I watched a man who took a slice of pizza get sentenced to 25 years in a CA state prison: Stealing one slice of pizza results in life sentence - SFGate
I watched a man who filled out the wrong form for a harmless orchid have his retirement sucked dry by the government and thrown in a federal prison: Orchid Kingpin? Mistake Lands Elderly Gardener in Prison - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
Etc... etc... etc.. thousands and thousands of examples.
Now they put five police officers on a guy selling a few cigarettes and kill him.
All of this may be "on earth as it is in heaven" to you but it certainly isn't to me friend and I'm a "right-wing" get tough on crime guy. But real crime, that is. Not this pettiness.
The present situation where draconian government force is brought to bear on the most petty situations that misnamed "liberals" along with neocons have wrought on this nation needs to be rescinded. On the other side of the coin, the death penalty needs to be implemented consistently for first-degree murder. Complimenting that should be restoration of self-defense laws so that people can defend themselves, when necessary, without facing bankruptcy in civil court and prison time. We kill people on the sidewalk for selling a few cigarettes and let murders run criminal empires from prison. We make it too difficult for law abiding home owners to police their own property. It is irrational and unbiblical.
How about this? The government backs off the authoritarianism over petty issues and lets people live their lives in peace. Rescind the criminalization of pettiness that occurred in the crime waves of the 80's and 90's as the public overreacted.
I watched a man who took a slice of pizza get sentenced to 25 years in a CA state prison: Stealing one slice of pizza results in life sentence - SFGate
I watched a man who filled out the wrong form for a harmless orchid have his retirement sucked dry by the government and thrown in a federal prison: Orchid Kingpin? Mistake Lands Elderly Gardener in Prison - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
Etc... etc... etc.. thousands and thousands of examples.
Now they put five police officers on a guy selling a few cigarettes and kill him.
All of this may be "on earth as it is in heaven" to you but it certainly isn't to me friend and I'm a "right-wing" get tough on crime guy. But real crime, that is. Not this pettiness.
The present situation where draconian government force is brought to bear on the most petty situations that misnamed "liberals" along with neocons have wrought on this nation needs to be rescinded. On the other side of the coin, the death penalty needs to be implemented consistently for first-degree murder. Complimenting that should be restoration of self-defense laws so that people can defend themselves, when necessary, without facing bankruptcy in civil court and prison time. We kill people on the sidewalk for selling a few cigarettes and let murders run criminal empires from prison. We make it too difficult for law abiding home owners to police their own property. It is irrational and unbiblical.