"Behold The Bridegroom Approaches"

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zone

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What concerns me is telling someone to step away from their real relationship with God, instead of exhorting them to learn Scripture to make sure they know which spirit is speaking to them, as Scripture very much tells us to do.
this i agree with.
the question is, which are you doing?
 

zone

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Very interesting to see Zone that you answered using scripture with YOUR understanding yet never mentioned a single word about all the conversations Jesus had that were never recorded :)
twofeet,
what do you want me to say about the conversations Jesus had with His disciples who were chosen and inspired and walked with Him, since they are not recorded?

do you want me to speculate about what we are not told?

or are you looking for an excuse to claim, like the OP, you are having personal conversations with Jesus?

do you know how we can immediately know if someone is a false prophet or not?

as in, "Thus saith the Lord", "God told me this and that", "God told me to give you a message"?

there are no more prophets. that's how simple it is.
 
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cfultz3

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#43
God telling of His Creation in Genesis:


In the beginning I created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the My Spirit moved upon the face of the waters.

And I said, Let there be light: and there was light. And I saw the light, that
it was good: and I divided the light from the darkness. And I called the light Day, and the darkness I called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

And I said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And I made the firmament, and divided the waters which
were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And I called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

And I said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry
land appear: and it was so. And I called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called I Seas: and I saw that it was good.

And I said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,
and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and I saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the third day.

And I said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And I made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night:
I made the stars also. And I set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and I saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

And I said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl
that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And I created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and I saw that it was good. And I blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

And I said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And I made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and I saw that
it was good.

And I said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So I created man in My
own image, in the image of Me created I him; male and female created I them. And I blessed them, and I said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

And I said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which
is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

And I saw every thing that I had made, and, behold,
it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

(Genesis 1:1-31)
 

zone

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#44
that's relevant how?
i have that in my Bible as well.
First Person the Lord God.
recorded, just as He planned.

do you want to discuss the OP please Chris?
or anyone else today who speaks First Person as God?
 
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cfultz3

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or are you looking for an excuse to claim, like the OP, you are having personal conversations with Jesus?
I would be leary of not having a personal and actual relationship with Christ in which He did not talk to me. Who then would guild me Home if not His Spirit telling me where to walk, assuring me of my hope, telling me I am child of God? I would be more concern in correcting people who has this lively hope.
 

zone

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#46
God telling of His Creation in Genesis:


In the beginning I created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the My Spirit moved upon the face of the waters.

And I said, Let there be light: and there was light. And I saw the light, that
it was good: and I divided the light from the darkness. And I called the light Day, and the darkness I called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

And I said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And I made the firmament, and divided the waters which
were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And I called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

And I said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry
land appear: and it was so. And I called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called I Seas: and I saw that it was good.

And I said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,
and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and I saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the third day.

And I said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And I made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night:
I made the stars also. And I set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and I saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

And I said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl
that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And I created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and I saw that it was good. And I blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

And I said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And I made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and I saw that
it was good.

And I said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So I created man in My
own image, in the image of Me created I him; male and female created I them. And I blessed them, and I said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

And I said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which
is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

And I saw every thing that I had made, and, behold,
it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

(Genesis 1:1-31)

chapter & verse for this please?



I Know My Own


Those who are Mine receive of Me, for I know My own, and they seek Me; My bride is chosen. Yet those who reject Me and My Word have not known Me, nor will they receive; My Spirit is removed.
Those who set themselves apart from Me, whether by word or deed or by pretense, their hearts are revealed; these shall be left to walk through very dry places. Yet those who seek Me in truth shall be drawn in quickly, whether they are near or afar, for I know My own; and those who are married unto Me in their hearts shall surely enter in.
Therefore, judge no more by human standards, discern by right standards, according to My love and the knowledge you have received in Me.


I AM THE LORD, whose will is set
And can in no wise be turned back;
Even from the beginning,
It was decided and accomplished...

For I AM...

And My bride has always been
Predestined in The Beloved...

Says The Lord.


Words To Live By... More Words of Wisdom From The Lord, Our God and Savior - Letters From God and His Christ < click
 
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twofeet

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twofeet,
what do you want me to say about the conversations Jesus had with His disciples who were chosen and inspired and walked with Him, since they are not recorded?

do you want me to speculate about what we are not told?





or are you looking for an excuse to claim, like the OP, you are having personal conversations with Jesus?

do you know how we can immediately know if someone is a false prophet or not?

as in, "Thus saith the Lord", "God told me this and that", "God told me to give you a message"?

there are no more prophets. that's how simple it is.
I didnt even mention prophets Zone Im talking day to day walk with The Living God....just as He had with Adam. Thats what God wanted and had once, and thats why Jesus died to restore it. He tried putting other things in place to get that relationship back...like the priests going through lots of rituals to enter His presence or Him talking to different people but ultimatly He wanted that one to one relationship restored. Ive had it from the day I got saved and I know others have it to. Do you really think Jesus went through all that pain just so we can go to heaven when we die? Jesus himself prayed " Father I pray you do NOT take them out the world"......sitting around waiting to die is NOT what abundant life is in Christ. God wants that relationship NOW....He has NEVER changed that desire.
 

zone

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I didnt even mention prophets Zone Im talking day to day walk with The Living God....just as He had with Adam. Thats what God wanted and had once, and thats why Jesus died to restore it. He tried putting other things in place to get that relationship back...like the priests going through lots of rituals to enter His presence or Him talking to different people but ultimatly He wanted that one to one relationship restored. Ive had it from the day I got saved and I know others have it to. Do you really think Jesus went through all that pain just so we can go to heaven when we die? Jesus himself prayed " Father I pray you do NOT take them out the world"......sitting around waiting to die is NOT what abundant life is in Christ. God wants that relationship NOW....He has NEVER changed that desire.
i have no disagreement with you on most of this.

this kind of dialectic is standard for ppl who claim ongoing revelation.

please refer back to your assertion that new revelation is the foundation of the church and that we are free to add to scripture.
please have the courage of your convictions and do not attempt to say this not your assertion.

comment on how the OP is of God or is not.
 

zone

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I would be leary of not having a personal and actual relationship with Christ in which He did not talk to me. Who then would guild me Home if not His Spirit telling me where to walk, assuring me of my hope, telling me I am child of God? I would be more concern in correcting people who has this lively hope.
are you claiming personal conversations with God as per the OP?
just be straight forward.

do you have them written down?
what is He saying? in First Person?

stop trying to turn this into me (or someone else) claiming no relationship with God.
40 posts. easy to know how this went.

which is it?
 
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cfultz3

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chapter & verse for this please?
Chapter and verse (which I am quite sure you know is not there) or the concepts (which I am quite sure you know is there)?
 

zone

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Chapter and verse (which I am quite sure you know is not there) or the concepts (which I am quite sure you know is there)?
do you approve or not?
 
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cfultz3

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are you claiming personal conversations with God as per the OP?
just be straight forward.

do you have them written down?
what is He saying? in First Person?

stop trying to turn this into me (or someone else) claiming no relationship with God.
40 posts. easy to know how this went.

which is it?
YES I AM SAYING THAT GOD TALKS TO ME ON A DAILY BASIS....But as per OP? I am not that blessed to be used of God in that manner. But if you are saying does God tell me to say things to othe people on occassion, sure He does. It is nice to be an instrument of God.

No, I do not keep a diary. But that is a nice suggestion. Thank you.

I think the words you speak are turning themselves on you, no need for my intervention.

Which is what? Does God still speak to us today as His children? YES. Am I blessed to be used of God? YES.
 

zone

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YES I AM SAYING THAT GOD TALKS TO ME ON A DAILY BASIS....But as per OP? I am not that blessed to be used of God in that manner. But if you are saying does God tell me to say things to othe people on occassion, sure He does. It is nice to be an instrument of God.

No, I do not keep a diary. But that is a nice suggestion. Thank you.

I think the words you speak are turning themselves on you, no need for my intervention.

Which is what? Does God still speak to us today as His children? YES. Am I blessed to be used of God? YES.
got ya. thanks.
no surprise for me.

may The Lord protect people from the likes of the Op, and all who approve of their works.
 
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cfultz3

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stop trying to turn this into me (or someone else) claiming no relationship with God.
40 posts. easy to know how this went.
Wake up to reality Zone. Did you not at first say I was playing the role of a false prophet (teacher)? Practice what you preach.
 
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cfultz3

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got ya. thanks.
no surprise for me.

may The Lord protect people from the likes of the Op, and all who approve of their works.
Oh man, you got me. I should have known better. You are most laughable in your attempts.
 
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cfultz3

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got ya. thanks.
no surprise for me.

may The Lord protect people from the likes of the Op, and all who approve of their works.

See, the only difference is that I proudly let people know that He walks with me and He talks with me. I am not ashamed of my real relationship with God. OH!! No!! My God is alive and is more than words, HE IS THE LIVING WORD.
 

zone

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Jeremiah 23:21
I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied.

Jeremiah 23:25
"I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, 'I had a dream! I had a dream!'

Jeremiah 27:15
I have not sent them,' declares the LORD. 'They are prophesying lies in my name. Therefore, I will banish you and you will perish, both you and the prophets who prophesy to you.'"

Jeremiah 29:8
For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Do not let your prophets and your diviners who are among you deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams that they dream

Ezekiel 13:6
Their visions are false and their divinations a lie. Even though the LORD has not sent them, they say, "The LORD declares," and expect him to fulfill their words.




Hebrews 1
1Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.



Ephesians 5:6
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient.

1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Matthew 24:4
Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.

Matthew 24:24
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.


2 Corinthians 11:4
For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
 

zone

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Wake up to reality Zone. Did you not at first say I was playing the role of a false prophet (teacher)? Practice what you preach.
you are.
i stand by it.