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John 12:35 KJV
(35) Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
According to this if we do not continue to walk in the light we will end up in darkness. So we can be walking in the light but is we are not continuing to walk which requires movement we will end up in darkness. If we stay still we will no longer be in the light.
(35) Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
According to this if we do not continue to walk in the light we will end up in darkness. So we can be walking in the light but is we are not continuing to walk which requires movement we will end up in darkness. If we stay still we will no longer be in the light.
Ephesians 5:6-8 Let no man deceive you with vain words; for because of these cometh the wrath of God upon the sons of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them. For ye were once darkness but now ye are of the light in the Lord; walk as children of the light.
By the new birth in Christ we are no longer children of darkness but we are children of the light. God has changed us and that is evident in our walk with Him. If there is no evidence then we are not of Him.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
By the new birth in Christ we are no longer children of darkness but we are children of the light. God has changed us and that is evident in our walk with Him. If there is no evidence then we are not of Him.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Nope! Darkness cannot overcome light. John 1:5 Darkness flees the light. Greater is He who is in us that he who is in the world. 1 John 4:4
To say one can fall away is to say that the blood of Christ is insufficient in some way shape or form. I cannot accept that premise in any way. All of scripture cries out against such a thing.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
To say one can fall away is to say that the blood of Christ is insufficient in some way shape or form. I cannot accept that premise in any way. All of scripture cries out against such a thing.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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No. We just have to learn scripture was
1. Not written in verse form. So trying to take one sentence out of a whole passage to make our doctrines may (most likely will) lead to major error in interpretation.
2. Scripture was written in paragraph and book form. When interpreting any sentance. we must look to the whole paragraph or idea to get context. to make sure our interpretations do not destroy context.
now to romans 11.
Because of unbelief Isreal was cut off. isreal is singular. meaning the whole nation. But in reality, was israel kept from salvation? Many jews in that day were being saved every day. Thus to say this term (cut off) had a thing to do with induvidual salvation would destroy context of what is being said.
Now Paul turns to the gentiles
israel was cut off due to turning to a new gospel (unbelief). Do not boast of yourself against them (through the strong anti-jewish movement which was already occurring in pauls day, and is still in severe action even up to this day) For If God did not spare them, he may not spare you either (the church)
What is the warning?
The nation of Isreal turned from the true gospel of faith to th egospel of law
The church also has turned from the gospel to law (even today it is rampant) if we do not repent, and change from this legalistic gospel (making the same mistake the jews made) he will cut us off too.. And if Isreal repents (which they will) he will graft them back in.
The CONTEXT is Isreal vs Gentile
Not induvidual isreal people vs induvidual gentile people.
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yes, But those walking by law are working. Those walking by faith are walking by the power of God.
Those walking by law will stumble (and fear) Those walking in faith may stumble. But their faith sustains them. They understand God will pick them up and get them moving again, he will never leave nor forsake them. Even when we are faithless, he is faithfull, he can not deny himself.
God has not given us a spirit again to fear (law) he gave us a spirit of adoption whereby we cry out abba father..
The law brings fear. expectation of judgment
The spirit brings peace (rest), knowing Daddy (abba) will pick us up again, and he will never leave us.
Those walking by law will stumble (and fear) Those walking in faith may stumble. But their faith sustains them. They understand God will pick them up and get them moving again, he will never leave nor forsake them. Even when we are faithless, he is faithfull, he can not deny himself.
God has not given us a spirit again to fear (law) he gave us a spirit of adoption whereby we cry out abba father..
The law brings fear. expectation of judgment
The spirit brings peace (rest), knowing Daddy (abba) will pick us up again, and he will never leave us.
I am glad it was just a typo! But now I am finding my Bibles do not contain Romans 10:22. Perhaps 9 or 11?
Found it - Romans 11:22!
"ἴδε οὖν χρηστότητα καὶ ἀποτομίαν θεοῦ· ἐπὶ μὲν τοὺς πεσόντας ἀποτομία, ἐπὶ δὲ σὲ [SUP][k][/SUP]χρηστότης θεοῦ, ἐὰν ἐπιμένῃς τῇ χρηστότητι, ἐπεὶ καὶ σὺ ἐκκοπήσῃ."
Definitely the singular. But that still leaves the door to the interpretation that Israel is the singular entity of Israel which Paul is comparing to the singular entity - the church in Rome.
It might help to think of the word "Israel" as "A remnant of Israel". Then you have the singular. Every single commentary I checked says this portion of Romans is about the community of Israel and the community of the Gentile Christians. (In fact, The New International Commentary on the New Testament puts it this way:
"Throughout this text Paul continues to address the Gentile Christians in Rome directly, using the second person singular to make his address al the more pointed. This is hortatory in nature."
It is the community that is going to be cut off, not the individual believers. The corporate entity of Israel is what is referred to in the Romans passage here. After all, didn't Paul just say a few chapters earlier that God saves us?
"Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life." Romans 5:9-10
Yet I agree there is still a tension, in which we must bear fruits because God in his mercy has saved us. That means God will help us persevere to the end, and that will be reflected in our life and actions.
"But the one who endures to the end will be saved." Matt 24:13.
I am still going with eternal security. I have just met too many people (including one today!) who worry that every sin, every depressed or wrong thought is going to send them to hell. Having a secure knowledge that God has saved you, by his power, not by our works, results in a believer who WANTS to please God and serve him each moment of every day. At least, that is my experience.
Found it - Romans 11:22!
"ἴδε οὖν χρηστότητα καὶ ἀποτομίαν θεοῦ· ἐπὶ μὲν τοὺς πεσόντας ἀποτομία, ἐπὶ δὲ σὲ [SUP][k][/SUP]χρηστότης θεοῦ, ἐὰν ἐπιμένῃς τῇ χρηστότητι, ἐπεὶ καὶ σὺ ἐκκοπήσῃ."
Definitely the singular. But that still leaves the door to the interpretation that Israel is the singular entity of Israel which Paul is comparing to the singular entity - the church in Rome.
It might help to think of the word "Israel" as "A remnant of Israel". Then you have the singular. Every single commentary I checked says this portion of Romans is about the community of Israel and the community of the Gentile Christians. (In fact, The New International Commentary on the New Testament puts it this way:
"Throughout this text Paul continues to address the Gentile Christians in Rome directly, using the second person singular to make his address al the more pointed. This is hortatory in nature."
It is the community that is going to be cut off, not the individual believers. The corporate entity of Israel is what is referred to in the Romans passage here. After all, didn't Paul just say a few chapters earlier that God saves us?
"Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life." Romans 5:9-10
Yet I agree there is still a tension, in which we must bear fruits because God in his mercy has saved us. That means God will help us persevere to the end, and that will be reflected in our life and actions.
"But the one who endures to the end will be saved." Matt 24:13.
I am still going with eternal security. I have just met too many people (including one today!) who worry that every sin, every depressed or wrong thought is going to send them to hell. Having a secure knowledge that God has saved you, by his power, not by our works, results in a believer who WANTS to please God and serve him each moment of every day. At least, that is my experience.
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Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
When does a person who professes to follow Christ have their name taken out of the book of life? According to this we need to be overcoming and be clothed in white raiment, Christ's righteousness. A person who gives their life to Christ does not have their name put in and out of the book of life every time they sin, it stays in the book of life even if they fall away. It stays there until the judgement.
Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
When does a person who professes to follow Christ have their name taken out of the book of life? According to this we need to be overcoming and be clothed in white raiment, Christ's righteousness. A person who gives their life to Christ does not have their name put in and out of the book of life every time they sin, it stays in the book of life even if they fall away. It stays there until the judgement.
Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Sometimes when I read these i think the author wants to condemn people who don't follow Christ the way he/she does. Who looks at life as a static state, where nothing ever goes wrong, or there cant' be a time in someones life where they backslide. The thing about Christianity is that it's about a person, and it's personal. It's not a philosophy or an ideal to debate and in our debate we think we have "made it"
I also wish we could understand that it is hard to express yourself personally and be known on an internet chat site, let alone a blog. That what someone types may not be what they fully meant. That there is no real proximity of people, therefore no real relationship to the other posters: that personal attacks, and argumentative statements with someone you don't know is extremely futile and only divulges more ungodliness.
I also wish we could understand that it is hard to express yourself personally and be known on an internet chat site, let alone a blog. That what someone types may not be what they fully meant. That there is no real proximity of people, therefore no real relationship to the other posters: that personal attacks, and argumentative statements with someone you don't know is extremely futile and only divulges more ungodliness.