Bible wars

[Stephen63]

Why do Christians fight over bible passages?

I've done it, but my conscience tells me this is not how to have a healthy relationship with someone.

Let's see if we can converse in this thread without using bible verses to validate our beliefs. Do you remember that, when you reasoned and objectified without having to smash someone over the head with bible verses.

Sometimes I don't like being a Christian.

The answer to that has always been simple & in front of us.

Jesus said, "You shall know them by their fruits".

It's consistent fruit bearing that proves what a person is.

So when there's malice, name-calling, unrighteous judgment, consistent twisting of scriptures, then the end result is not a christian.

So there you have it. Those that believe we should just "all just get along" & believe we're all christians need to get their noses in the Bible.

If Satan freely walks in all churches, What makes you think he doesn't freely walk here?

 

[Willie-T]

Oh, I guess that's right.

But I think you might be missing the point of my OP.

You're absolutely correct. Most people feel "I have a verse that I think proves the way I choose to live, and by God, I will smush it in your facer till you accept it the same way I happen to "KNOW" it is meant to be taken. No discussion!"

 

[Depleted]

What exactly am I preaching, that if you don't believe what I say you'll risk going to hell, or if your not baptized you're not a Christian, or if you have uniquely different ideas about Jesus or God or the bible I'll block you?

Stuff like that, am I doing stuff like that to believers. Because the if I am I will leave this second.

I'm not stalking you, so the two times I noticed you were preaching to us before getting to know us was when you preached about "Love Bombing" and now this.

Why do Christians fight over bible passages?

I've done it, but my conscience tells me this is not how to have a healthy relationship with someone.

Let's see if we can converse in this thread without using bible verses to validate our beliefs. Do you remember that, when you reasoned and objectified without having to smash someone over the head with bible verses.

Sometimes I don't like being a Christian.

So because your conscious doesn't think bible verses is a healthy relationship, and because you don't like being a Christian, we're supposed to change who we are?

 

[Jackson123]

Why do Christians fight over bible passages?

I've done it, but my conscience tells me this is not how to have a healthy relationship with someone.

Let's see if we can converse in this thread without using bible verses to validate our beliefs. Do you remember that, when you reasoned and objectified without having to smash someone over the head with bible verses.

Sometimes I don't like being a Christian.

the sicret is we not follow these rules

Love your neighbors like yourself

love your enemy

give your left cheek If one slepped your right cheek

these only posible happen If the Holy Spirit in us

This is the fruit of The Holy Spirit, the very evident that we are Christian

 

[sevenseas]

Why do Christians fight over bible passages?

I've done it, but my conscience tells me this is not how to have a healthy relationship with someone.

Let's see if we can converse in this thread without using bible verses to validate our beliefs. Do you remember that, when you reasoned and objectified without having to smash someone over the head with bible verses.

Sometimes I don't like being a Christian.

well of course!

and sometimes I don't like OTHER people being Christians, right?

cause that is really what we are talking about here LOL!

 

[sevenseas]

I'm not stalking you, so the two times I noticed you were preaching to us before getting to know us was when you preached about "Love Bombing" and now this.

So because your conscious doesn't think bible verses is a healthy relationship, and because you don't like being a Christian, we're supposed to change who we are?

would you stalk me please?

I haven' t had a good stalker to shake in a while now and I fear I am loosing my popularity

and I'll never change...ESPECIALLY if someone tells me to so that their comfort level will go up

just made that way I guess

 

[hornetguy]

To the OP.... as has been stated, the reason we use scripture to illustrate, or "prove" a point is because this is the "BIBLE Discussion Forum"....
And, strangely enough, not everyone agrees what all scriptures mean.. so it's fortunate that there are not all that many "salvation issues" that all Christians should agree on.

If the fact that people "throw scriptures" at you, to prove their point, bothers you, then I recommend you stay out of the forum that is specifically FOR discussion scripture (BDF), and go to, perhaps, the "Miscellaneous" forum....

people in there don't read the Bible at all.....

 

[AKAP]

Do Christians plan on doing this soon, because this would be evidence of a miracle.

Why is it that Christianity is turned into a by word.

I've always believed that since the time of the apostles and since around 70 AD the true 'called-out ones' have been working for God and also staying 'below the horizon.'
Most of these Christians are not a part of main-stream 'Christianity,' and never were part of it to begin with.
This 'Christianity' by-word has been with us for at least 1700 years.
Now did that rattle anyone? There are a lot of ramifications in what I've said. My intention though is to provide my honest and quick view on this subject.

In Christ, Always

 

[hornetguy]

I've always believed that since the time of the apostles and since around 70 AD the true 'called-out ones' have been working for God and also staying 'below the horizon.'
Most of these Christians are not a part of main-stream 'Christianity,' and never were part of it to begin with.
This 'Christianity' by-word has been with us for at least 1700 years.
Now did that rattle anyone? There are a lot of ramifications in what I've said. My intention though is to provide my honest and quick view on this subject.

In Christ, Always

Unless I've misunderstood you, I disagree with most of what you've said....

I don't think "true" Christians hide under the radar... I think they live their lives as a willing, public testimony to the world about Jesus...

What do you consider "main stream" Christianity?

Why the 70 AD timeframe? And why is "Christianity" a by word to you?

I'm not rattled at all, however..... simply curious as to your intent.

 

[Bogadile]

You want a bible war?

Women cannot speak in churches | Women can speak in churches
Spiritual gifts are for today | Spiritual gifts have ceased
Rapture is post | mid | pre tribulation
There is no tribulation nor a millennial kingdom | There is a literal 1000 year Kingdom
Water baptism is only symbolic | Water baptism is required for salvation
Salvation is by believing ONLY | Salvation is by believing and enduring faithful until the end
You cannot lose your salvation | You can lose your salvation
We need to keep the sabbath | We do not need to keep the sabbath
Book of Revelation is mostly literal and future | Book of Revelation is mostly symbolic and past

And on and on it goes. The Holy Spirit should lead us into all truth.
Every church is "built on the bible" in the "What we believe" section of their website, maybe we should try to build one on the Holy Spirit.

I disagree with the idea that everything needs to be in the Bible to be true, the Bible is profitable for doctrine reproof and correction however even the Ethiopian Eunuch who was reading the Scriptures needed to have Philip explain to him what he was reading. If this was done today you would be labeled by some as a follower of men's traditions and such. One must remember that Paul was a man too.

Before anyone throws out an accusation of me rejecting Sola Scriptura and me being a catholic, I am NOT a catholic I have never belonged to the catholic church.

 

[resurrection33]

Why do Christians fight over bible passages?

I've done it, but my conscience tells me this is not how to have a healthy relationship with someone.

Let's see if we can converse in this thread without using bible verses to validate our beliefs. Do you remember that, when you reasoned and objectified without having to smash someone over the head with bible verses.

Sometimes I don't like being a Christian.

I think sometimes people lose their temper if you don't agree with them.

 

[AKAP]

Unless I've misunderstood you, I disagree with most of what you've said....

I don't think "true" Christians hide under the radar... I think they live their lives as a willing, public testimony to the world about Jesus...

What do you consider "main stream" Christianity?

Why the 70 AD timeframe? And why is "Christianity" a by word to you?

I'm not rattled at all, however..... simply curious as to your intent.

So then you are just curious and not in any way rattled? ok

'hiding' under the radar, as you said, means being separate from the world and its device especially religious ways.

So 'main-stream' means those religious people of the world that are a part of its spirit.

I hope that makes it clear and simple.

Thanks for asking..

In Christ, Always

 

[hornetguy]

So then you are just curious and not in any way rattled? ok

'hiding' under the radar, as you said, means being separate from the world and its device especially religious ways.

So 'main-stream' means those religious people of the world that are a part of its spirit.

I hope that makes it clear and simple.

Thanks for asking..

In Christ, Always

Then I agree with the idea we are supposed to be separate from the world, in the sense that we are not to have the same worldly values and goals as non-believers... but that does not mean we are to go hide in a monastery or convent... I think we are to live as much as possible the way Jesus did. In the world, but not of it....

If we are doing that, there is not much danger of being mixed up with the "spiritual in name only" folks... we will be known by our actions, and our love for one another, and by our fruits...

 

[Depleted]

would you stalk me please?

I haven' t had a good stalker to shake in a while now and I fear I am loosing my popularity

and I'll never change...ESPECIALLY if someone tells me to so that their comfort level will go up

just made that way I guess

Sorry, I'm way too lazy to be a stalker. lol

 

[Blain]

Man i wish I knew how to make the letters bible wars look like how the letters star wars look on the show lol but as for the bible wars people mistake speaking and discussing the things of God with scripture and just misusing scripture and attack others with it.
As I have said before here in the bdf the word of God is not a toy and is not to be used lightly, simply posting scripture in your post doesn't make you right, I mean you can easily find nine different scriptures to fit your view but that still doesn't validate what you said and people seem to not understand this. I don't approve of the bible wars that goes on here after all our war is not against each other it's against the enemy

 

[Dai3234]

I don't use scripture that much because I find it difficult to remember. Unless in asking a question.

People who post Reems of verses are generally tiring to work with because the posts are so large when alot of what they said could be compacted, alot.

But Bible wars often occur because people have different bibles, different churches/catholic/KJV only/Calvinists etc, or they're TV Christians like I WAS. And am still learning as I was not brought up with hardly any of this stuff except Carlton Heston as MOSES, Or The Robe etc. When I was a kid growing up. That's UK social Christianity. Except actual church goers who don't say anything about it.

 

[AKAP]

Man i wish I knew how to make the letters bible wars look like how the letters star wars look on the show lol but as for the bible wars people mistake speaking and discussing the things of God with scripture and just misusing scripture and attack others with it.
As I have said before here in the bdf the word of God is not a toy and is not to be used lightly, simply posting scripture in your post doesn't make you right, I mean you can easily find nine different scriptures to fit your view but that still doesn't validate what you said and people seem to not understand this. I don't approve of the bible wars that goes on here after all our war is not against each other it's against the enemy

Blain: I do like the part and it is a serious point, where you comment of the misuse of scripture. Just waving scripture in front of someone's face can be an ignorant gesture especially when that person does really know what it means themselves. They just were told it meant this or that. A mob mentally soon ensues and they look out for the person that seems to know a little more or can dissect and provide a clear meaning of a verse or two with other scripture that supports it. I find that many people either will not or can not interpret scripture themselves. This is a major problem in these forums. And writing an essay or long paper to show how they know the subject with unrelated scripture and unrelated text can only confuse. The simple scripture-led translation with CONTEXT and then review this CONTEXT, can quell many miseries and outcries.

In Christ, Always

 

[OneFaith]

Why do Christians fight over bible passages?

I've done it, but my conscience tells me this is not how to have a healthy relationship with someone.

Let's see if we can converse in this thread without using bible verses to validate our beliefs. Do you remember that, when you reasoned and objectified without having to smash someone over the head with bible verses.

Sometimes I don't like being a Christian.

It's never wrong to tell the truth, and scripture is truth. If you yell at them and beat them over the head with it- your tactic is wrong, but sharing scripture is not. And if their pride is hurt or they won't accept God's truth from the likes of you- then their attitude is wrong, not the sharing of scripture. Christians must share God's Word to whomever is willing to listen. And if you are here, in Bible Discussion, your willingness is greatly assumed.

 

[Blain]

Blain: I do like the part and it is a serious point, where you comment of the misuse of scripture. Just waving scripture in front of someone's face can be an ignorant gesture especially when that person does really know what it means themselves. They just were told it meant this or that. A mob mentally soon ensues and they look out for the person that seems to know a little more or can dissect and provide a clear meaning of a verse or two with other scripture that supports it. I find that many people either will not or can not interpret scripture themselves. This is a major problem in these forums. And writing an essay or long paper to show how they know the subject with unrelated scripture and unrelated text can only confuse. The simple scripture-led translation with CONTEXT and then review this CONTEXT, can quell many miseries and outcries.

In Christ, Always

Anyone can use scripture to prove their point even Atheists do this when arguing with Christians but there is a difference with using scripture and using it in the right way. I don't use scripture near as much as others here in forums to prove my point but when I do use it Very few have ever told me I used it in the wrong context although I am sure I have done so as I myself am not all knowing in what the scriptures say. But like how many words lead to a rant yet few words shows wisdom I believe that using the scriptures a lot in you attempt to prove your point can lead to a misunderstanding and misuse of the scriptures while perhaps using it carefully can lead to more context and meaning.

The bible is like an onion or the earths crust it has many many layers, anyone can look up scriptures to fit their words perfectly and prove their point but the issue is five people can look at the same verse and get at least four different interpretations from it. I think God grants understanding to his word more to those whose motives are his motives, not to prove ourselves right or to attack others but to help and build others up and to help guide them. I mean you can post seven different scriptures top prove your point but what moves people isn't the verse you posted it's the heart behind the posts.

 

[Blain]

It's never wrong to tell the truth, and scripture is truth. If you yell at them and beat them over the head with it- your tactic is wrong, but sharing scripture is not. And if their pride is hurt or they won't accept God's truth from the likes of you- then their attitude is wrong, not the sharing of scripture. Christians must share God's Word to whomever is willing to listen. And if you are here, in Bible Discussion, your willingness is greatly assumed.

I just want to point out that word is a double edged sword simply sharing scripture isn't enough and cause damage to both the poster and the reader. but your post was very well put I enjoyed reading it